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Marathon Killers Apprehended: the Aftermath

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My favorite part was when the media said that "everyone is a Red Sox fan today" and I thought to myself, "Now, let's not go THAT far." :D
Red Sox suck, their only good point is Brian Butterfield,I went to school with him in Orono :)
 
Not to mention the fact that they've got video tape of him planting the bomb, among other things. He can hire Clarence Darrow or Johnny Cochran, a jury's gonna punch him out in a heartbeat. From the standpoint of prosecution, they don't need a statement.

Any impulse to go easy (ie, no hot shot) will be vitiated by the video of him planting a bomb just a few feet away from Martin Richard. Done. Gone. Get the rope.

The direct answer to your question is: this is an outbreak of Jack McCoy Syndrome.

Will he be prosecuted in federal or state court?
 
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Will he be prosecuted in federal or state court?
He could easily be prosecuted in both on different counts. There was a kidnapping/murder case that happened some 10+ yrs ago here (I forget the names of the people involved now), and because the guy committed the initial kidnapping act in MN, sexually assaulted her here, and then crossed the border to ND, where he killed the young lady and buried her remains. It was a big story in the media around here at the time. As I recall, the Feds and the States of MN and ND got together to decide where to try the man first (ND won). Then, if the outcome wasn't satisfactory to the various prosecutors, next in line was the Feds and finally MN. I think the order was based upon the severity of the punishment in the differing jurisdictions. Thankfully for the family of the lady, the man was convicted in the ND trial and sentenced to life without parole; no more trials took place after that one.
 
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Will he be prosecuted in federal or state court?

Well, the feds have the death penalty available, MA does not. MA may want to get a bite of the apple, but getting him on a gurney would seem to be job one.
 
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Boston mayor Tom Menino was asked about the medical condition of the slime in custody. His response: Who cares?
 
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Many of us, myself included, were ready to give all the credit and the reward for breaking the case to David Henneberry, who called 9-1-1 after finding something amiss with his boat. I forgot about Jeff Bauman, the guy who had his legs blown off. He wrote a note: "Bag. Saw the guy, looked right at me," and gave the FBI their first description of Thing 1. He surely has a claim on that insufficient reward, too.
 
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Many of us, myself included, were ready to give all the credit and the reward for breaking the case to David Henneberry, who called 9-1-1 after finding something amiss with his boat. I forgot about Jeff Bauman, the guy who had his legs blown off. He wrote a note: "Bag. Saw the guy, looked right at me," and gave the FBI their first description of Thing 1. He surely has a claim on that insufficient reward, too.

I like the movement to replace the guy's boat. If I do end up giving money, however, it'll be towards the slew of prosthetics needed.

If I were marathon officials I'd give an entry for life to all those injured... but I'm not, so there.
 
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I like the movement to replace the guy's boat. If I do end up giving money, however, it'll be towards the slew of prosthetics needed.

If I were marathon officials I'd give an entry for life to all those injured... but I'm not, so there.

There are so many ways people are helping. One that I hadn't even considered is refitting all those houses for bigger doors, wheelchair ramps and the like. Former Patriot Jermaine Wiggins is organizing a group to provide the materials and do the work at no charge for victims of this bombing. I like the idea of free entry to the marathon for victims too. There are high schools and colleges around Massachusetts which are setting up impromptu finish lines and at halftime/between innings of sporting events allowing local runners to "finish the race" they didn't get to on Marathon Monday.

One thing I have also heard is that CNN reporting that we all ridiculed may have been intentionally misleading by the "source" so that the perpetrators felt like they had gotten away with it. They hear on the news that the FBI is after a "dark-skinned" man and they rest easy. That's backed up by the fact that days went by and they were still following their routines as if nothing had happened. IF that is true (and I doubt law enforcement will ever tell us) kudos to them for the massive head fake. And I think John King and Wolf Blitzer will sleep just fine at night knowing they are national laughingstocks but this slime has been brought to justice thanks in part to their "exclusive" reporting.
 
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One thing I don't get, and I am not trying to pull a FlagDude, is why did law enforcement tell people to not answer doors, etc....but then proceed to go door-to-door looking for the suspect?

My surmise is that they were looking for an empty / unoccupied house for further search.
 
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This story is probably one of several that goes back over events and fills in details on some of the areas that were a little unclear before.

For example...


The chase for Mr. Tsarnaev and his brother and alleged accomplice, Tamerlan, began Thursday night with the fatal shooting of a campus police officer at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. After the shooting, the brothers allegedly used a gun to steal a Mercedes sport-utility vehicle, forcing the driver to give them his ATM number before pushing him out of the car.

The brothers fled, one driving the stolen Mercedes and the other their own Honda. They used the Mercedes' owner's ATM to withdraw $800. Police were able to track the Mercedes using its owner's cellphone—which had been left inside during the carjacking—to a back street in East Watertown, Watertown Police Chief Edward Deveau said in an interview Saturday.

About 12:25 a.m. a Watertown police officer spotted the cars and began pursuit. The officer's superiors told him not to stop the cars until backup arrived. But within two blocks, the brothers halted.
"All of a sudden they stop, jump out of the car and immediately start shooting at my police officer," Mr. Deveau said.

The officer backed up, and from 30 feet away began returning fire. Five more officers arrived. More than 200 gunshots were fired during a roughly 10-minute exchange. At one point, a suspect hurled a bomb that caused a "huge explosion," Mr. Deveau said. Police believe that bomb was like those used in Monday's attack because they later found a pressure-cooker lid embedded in a nearby car. The brothers also hurled four smaller grenade-like devices. Two exploded. Two failed to detonate.

At some point, Tamerlan Tsarnaev left cover and approached the police, firing. When the suspect ran out of ammunition, an officer tackled him in the street. As officers tried to apply handcuffs, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev sped at them in the stolen Mercedes.

"Somebody yells, 'Get out of the way,'" Mr. Deveau said. "They look up and here comes the brother in the black SUV roaring at them. They dive out of the way, barely get out of the way."

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev ran over his brother, dragging him under the car for about 40 feet. The brother was then taken to Beth Israel Deaconness Hospital where he died.


already, in that excerpt, a few details I find extraordinary: one officer facing down two men shooting at him until backup arrives, and then, when the older brother runs out of ammunition, they don't shoot him, they tackle him? just amazing.



oh, and the end of the story indicates that someone with a bullhorn had announced that the "suspect" had been captured alive, and then all the cheering and clapping broke out. I had heard some officious snob was worried about why people were cheering or what they were cheering, well that twit can now apologize for accusing others of blood lust. btw, when I saw that on the news, it seemed to me that people were expressing appreciation for the job that law enforcement had done.
 
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.... There was a kidnapping/murder case that happened some 10+ yrs ago here (I forget the names of the people involved now), and because the guy committed the initial kidnapping act in MN, sexually assaulted her here, and then crossed the border to ND, where he killed the young lady and buried her remains. ....
Other way around; He kidnapped her at the mall in Grand Forks ND and took her into MN near where he lived with his mother.

LINK
 
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From the karma is a b itch department, both scum 1 & 2 were taken to Beth Israel Deaconess hospital
 
Re: Marathon Killers Apprehended: the Aftermath

This story is probably one of several that goes back over events and fills in details on some of the areas that were a little unclear before.

For example...

The chase for Mr. Tsarnaev and his brother and alleged accomplice, Tamerlan, began Thursday night with the fatal shooting of a campus police officer at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. After the shooting, the brothers allegedly used a gun to steal a Mercedes sport-utility vehicle, forcing the driver to give them his ATM number before pushing him out of the car.

The brothers fled, one driving the stolen Mercedes and the other their own Honda. They used the Mercedes' owner's ATM to withdraw $800. Police were able to track the Mercedes using its owner's cellphone—which had been left inside during the carjacking—to a back street in East Watertown, Watertown Police Chief Edward Deveau said in an interview Saturday.

About 12:25 a.m. a Watertown police officer spotted the cars and began pursuit. The officer's superiors told him not to stop the cars until backup arrived. But within two blocks, the brothers halted.
"All of a sudden they stop, jump out of the car and immediately start shooting at my police officer," Mr. Deveau said.

The officer backed up, and from 30 feet away began returning fire. Five more officers arrived. More than 200 gunshots were fired during a roughly 10-minute exchange. At one point, a suspect hurled a bomb that caused a "huge explosion," Mr. Deveau said. Police believe that bomb was like those used in Monday's attack because they later found a pressure-cooker lid embedded in a nearby car. The brothers also hurled four smaller grenade-like devices. Two exploded. Two failed to detonate.

At some point, Tamerlan Tsarnaev left cover and approached the police, firing. When the suspect ran out of ammunition, an officer tackled him in the street. As officers tried to apply handcuffs, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev sped at them in the stolen Mercedes.

"Somebody yells, 'Get out of the way,'" Mr. Deveau said. "They look up and here comes the brother in the black SUV roaring at them. They dive out of the way, barely get out of the way."

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev ran over his brother, dragging him under the car for about 40 feet. The brother was then taken to Beth Israel Deaconness Hospital where he died.




already, in that excerpt, a few details I find extraordinary: one officer facing down two men shooting at him until backup arrives, and then, when the older brother runs out of ammunition, they don't shoot him, they tackle him? just amazing.



oh, and the end of the story indicates that someone with a bullhorn had announced that the "suspect" had been captured alive, and then all the cheering and clapping broke out. I had heard some officious snob was worried about why people were cheering or what they were cheering, well that twit can now apologize for accusing others of blood lust. btw, when I saw that on the news, it seemed to me that people were expressing appreciation for the job that law enforcement had done.


It seems to me, from reading newsreports, listening to the uncle, etc...that Joker didn't want to participate in this. Even in the surveillance photos, he doesn't go out of his way to cover his face like the other one does. To me, anyway. Maybe Joker thought that by doing this, he would be committing suicide by cop, or, if he lives, gets to kill his brother, who was a bad influence? Am I off base?
 
It seems to me, from reading newsreports, listening to the uncle, etc...that Joker didn't want to participate in this. Even in the surveillance photos, he doesn't go out of his way to cover his face like the other one does. To me, anyway. Maybe Joker thought that by doing this, he would be committing suicide by cop, or, if he lives, gets to kill his brother, who was a bad influence? Am I off base?

I think you're really stretching here...

But it does appear at the very least the older brother certainly was the leader.
 
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. Maybe Joker thought that by doing this, he would be committing suicide by cop, or, if he lives, gets to kill his brother, who was a bad influence? Am I off base?
I don't think he had a clue but maybe its because he has a baby face and looks to be about 16. The older brother can look like Muhammad Atta so he appears evil at times. Either way the kid did it and deserves what ever he gets
 
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It seems to me, from reading newsreports, listening to the uncle, etc...that Joker didn't want to participate in this. Even in the surveillance photos, he doesn't go out of his way to cover his face like the other one does. To me, anyway. Maybe Joker thought that by doing this, he would be committing suicide by cop, or, if he lives, gets to kill his brother, who was a bad influence? Am I off base?


You are WAY off base.


I don't think he had a clue but maybe its because he has a baby face and looks to be about 16. The older brother can look like Muhammad Atta so he appears evil at times. Either way the kid did it and deserves what ever he gets


Agreed. This wasn't some 14 year old pressed into something. This was/is a 19 year old who could certainly know right from wrong and showed an astounding lack of remorse by dropping right back into his normal life a day after he blew a bunch of innocents to pieces.

It's hard looking at his baby-face and resolving to execute him, but that baby-face covers a rotten core. He made his choice(s).

Now he's got to live (and die) with those choices.
 
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