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Marathon Killers Apprehended: the Aftermath

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I wasn't defending Joker, just making an observation. The guy deserves what he gets. If found guilty, let's strap a nuke to him, fly over North Korea, and drop him from a helicopter, then detonate. Two birds, one Russian. :D
 
Old Pio said:
Recall that several Weather Underground types blew themselves to h*ll when their Greenwich Village bomb factory went up. Man, it took me a long time to recover from that one. Also, similarly motivated punks exploded a bomb at the University of Wisconsin that took the life of a graduate student who was working late at night.

Before he became a presidential mentor and pal, Ayers exploded several bombs and has written his only regret is "not doing more."
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The esteemed professor can be forgiven for trying to bomb and kill a judge and his family... IT'S FOR THE CAUSE!

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Why are people so easy to forget that the dreams of Ayers and cohorts went way beyond the hope of the Tsarnaevs? Ayers and company wanted a violent revolution of the US government. The only reason they stopped was because they felt they could no longer realize their dreams in that manner. Ayers, et. al. still believe in the dream... They've just opted for different means. This is why Ayers hasn't expressed much regret and why he still refuses to apologize to a now adult child of a judge.
 
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Old Pio said:
Bad news from Canada for the "move along, nothing to see here" crowd.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/22/world/americas/canada-terror-plot-thwarted/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Oh, and this

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...unting-12-strong-1844844#.UXM54Yqm6hA.twitter
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If they determine they had ties to and were supported by a foreign terrorist organization, can we take a mulligan and try him as an enemy combatant?

Or maybe we will all be lucky and once they extract all of the needed information from him, he suddenly "takes a turn for the worse" and does not make it out of the hospital.
 
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ericredaxe said:
If they determine they had ties to and were supported by a foreign terrorist organization, can we take a mulligan and try him as an enemy combatant?

Or maybe we will all be lucky and once they extract all of the needed information from him, he suddenly "takes a turn for the worse" and does not make it out of the hospital.
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Works for me in both instances. Better check with the Sun King first.
 
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From Wikipedia:

For the purposes of US criminal law concerning terrorism,[28] weapons of mass destruction are defined as:

any destructive device defined as any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas bomb, grenade, rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces, missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce, mine, or device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses[29]

where [28] is ^ "US CODE: Chapter 113B—Terrorism". .law.cornell.edu. 28 June 2010. Retrieved 5 August 2010. and [29] "US CODE: Title 18, § 921. Definitions". .law.cornell.edu. 13 September 1994. Retrieved 5 August 2010.
 
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ericredaxe said:
From Wikipedia:

For the purposes of US criminal law concerning terrorism,[28] weapons of mass destruction are defined as:

any destructive device defined as any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas bomb, grenade, rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces, missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce, mine, or device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses[29]

where [28] is ^ "US CODE: Chapter 113B—Terrorism". .law.cornell.edu. 28 June 2010. Retrieved 5 August 2010. and [29] "US CODE: Title 18, § 921. Definitions". .law.cornell.edu. 13 September 1994. Retrieved 5 August 2010.
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Correction....we found a ****ton of WMD's in Iraq it appears, then. :D :p
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
FWIW, you're mixing the actions of several different people altogether there.
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they are generally known as "co-conspirators." She cut a deal to testify against the others, hence her reduced sentence. She was admittedly just as guilty as the rest of the gang. She was the one who convinced the police to lower their weapons before the rest of the gang jumped out of the rear of the van and started shooting, killing them all. Even if her finger wasn't on one of the triggers, her actions would constitute felony murder if I understand its definition correctly.

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Plus, isn't she proof that people can be successfully reformed?
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um, generally one includes "remorse" and "repudiation of bad acts" as part of being "reformed", no? There's been none of either forthcoming from her.

Now, more broadly, there are plenty of cases in which people have committed a serious crime in their youth and come to regret it and have apologized to the people they had harmed. Had she done so, my comments about her wouldn't have been so pointed.
 
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One question that many people have been asking, which I have not yet heard addressed, is where did Djoker and his brother get their money? He's at college living in a dorm, the brother has a house in Cambridge, the dad is sick....how are these guys paying their bills? Part of the news coverage included an interview with the mechanic who fixes their car. Their car? what the fark? people are interviewing Djoker's high school buddies but no one is asking where their money came from??
 
FreshFish said:
they are generally known as "co-conspirators." She cut a deal to testify against the others, hence her reduced sentence. She was admittedly just as guilty as the rest of the gang. She was the one who convinced the police to lower their weapons before the rest of the gang jumped out of the rear of the van and started shooting, killing them all. Even if her finger wasn't on one of the triggers, her actions would constitute felony murder if I understand its definition
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One can certainly be guilty of felony murder without killing someone. She was certainly culpable, but she didn't kill anyone regardless of how you want to spin it.
 
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FreshFish said:
One question that many people have been asking, which I have not yet heard addressed, is where did Djoker and his brother get their money? He's at college living in a dorm, the brother has a house in Cambridge, the dad is sick....how are these guys paying their bills? Part of the news coverage included an interview with the mechanic who fixes their car. Their car? what the fark? people are interviewing Djoker's high school buddies but no one is asking where their money came from??
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They had jobs, would be my first guess...
 
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