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Maine Offseason 2020: We Stay Home But Swayman Leaves

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Drew S. said:
Go look at Heisenberg's 2013 list. The program was an absolute mess when Timmy left.
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I most definitely agree with this, and while I felt like it was time to begin to move on past Red, he may have moved the needle slightly in a positive direction. On the contrary, a program that used to have title aspirations was content with a top 4 finish in Hockey East, or even a chance to go to the Garden for the HE Tournament. They were extremely average under Red, now it's time to get someone who can elevate them.
 
Drew S. said:
Go look at Heisenberg's 2013 list. The program was an absolute mess when Timmy left.
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We’re still doing this? Who cares. Its not worth arguing with a guy who posts that Red was on the right track and also UMass Lowell didn’t do much with Ellsworth
 
Fishman'81 said:
I'm not negative; I'm realistic. The proof is in the pudding, no debate is in order.

I defended Whitehead's talent down to the wire, even as I eventually joined the call for his head. But Red inherited NHL-quality players, and there's nothing like that for whoever takes the job now, clearly.

We have to hope that a guy with excellent recruiting pipelines and a lot of patience gets the nod, and that'll still take 3-4-5 years, minimum. This past regime has buried the program for a while, no two ways about it. If not for the blind hog/acorn deal with the amazing Swayman, Maine would not have had even a remote sniff of the NCAA's in years and years now.
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At the risk of further annoying you, I'll just say that when UNH under Umile began its gradual backslide into mediocrity over a decade ago, I got called "negative" fairly often by fellow UNH posters for pointing it out, when I thought I was just being "realistic". That it turned out to be true was no cause for solace later. Some folks just don't like it when someone rains on their parade, even when that parade is missing a few floats/bands from earlier better versions of the parade. :-)

There's always room for debate, but other than that, I agree with 95% of the rest of your post.

Maybe today's the day we'll hear about the HC decision ...
 
Blackbear96 said:
I most definitely agree with this, and while I felt like it was time to begin to move on past Red, he may have moved the needle slightly in a positive direction. On the contrary, a program that used to have title aspirations was content with a top 4 finish in Hockey East, or even a chance to go to the Garden for the HE Tournament. They were extremely average under Red, now it's time to get someone who can elevate them.
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We’ll see what happens over the course of the next five years but I think Red left a Maine a lot better than he found it. Just need to find a little more talent up front.
 
umhockey91 said:
The inept UM ADs let this program slip. Both Whitehead and Gendron languished in mediocrity under some of the worst ADs in Maine history (Patrick Nero, Blake James, Steve Abbott).
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Couldnt agree more.
Add the last one in there too, what was his name Creech or something.
 
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Wabi tv just had a 15 sec blurb and mentioned the coach decision would be midweek.
Then they mentioned Capuano as a possibility.
 
NorthMike said:
Wabi tv just had a 15 sec blurb and mentioned the coach decision would be midweek.
Then they mentioned Capuano as a possibility.
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IIRC Garth Snow (UMaine hiring committee) both hired and later fired Capuano as Islanders' HC.

Could just have been a courtesy mention, what old friends do for each other once in awhile ...
 
umhockey91 said:
The inept UM ADs let this program slip. Both Whitehead and Gendron languished in mediocrity under some of the worst ADs in Maine history (Patrick Nero, Blake James, Steve Abbott).
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I have zero respect for Patrick Nero the person, but he did a phenomenal job for fundraising, coaches hires and athletic success at GW - before blowing it all with his personal issues. I assumed he just climbed the ladder through UMaine and moved on - but you don't think he was a good AD?

Feelings for him aside, he always struck me as having the exact mindset that a UNH/UM AD needs to demand success and put in the work to change perceptions.
 
It’s the U’s opportunity to pay Barr what we wants or what can be negotiated. Don’t blow it, Ben G is not the way to go here.

Additional ticket sales easily covers the cost and so what if he’s paid more than other coaches. It’s the U’s only real draw.
 
acs64 said:
It’s the U’s opportunity to pay Barr what we wants or what can be negotiated. Don’t blow it, Ben G is not the way to go here.

Additional ticket sales easily covers the cost and so what if he’s paid more than other coaches. It’s the U’s only real draw.
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Who knows, but I don’t think salary is the deciding factor. Both candidates knew what the salary would be when they put their hat in ring. Barr was a finalist at VT and RPI, both similar salaries.
 
This is smelling more and more like Barr. I say that because I think that an announcement would have been made by now if it was Guite.
 
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