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Maine Hockey 2014-15 Volume 2: Red's Revenge

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rufus said:
So why do they keep having "brain cramps"? Why do they keep "coming out flat" as Leen said? They're not getting better, and they're not playing more competitively.

I'm beginning to wonder if Red has what it takes to be a head coach at this level. And almost beginning to miss TIMMAY.
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Listen to his press conference after the game, it sheds some light as to whats happening on this team. Its on the face book page
 
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walrus said:
Listen to his press conference after the game, it sheds some light as to whats happening on this team. Its on the face book page
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Yeah. He tells them what they need to be doing, and then they don't do it. Question is, why don't they do it? What's the issue here? And how do you fix it?

Red says they weren't sharp, and then says he doesn't know why they weren't. Sounds almost like he has no idea how to get this ship righted. Or else he realizes that he can't, and has just given up trying.

And Leen. "We came out flat" Not the first time we've heard statements like this over the season. Why? Why are they coming out flat? Perhaps the players on this team should take a good long look at themselves and decide if they want to play hockey at this level? If they want to do what needs to be done to win games? Or are they content just sitting on their free rides, whileing away a few hours on Friday and Saturday nights until they can get to the parties and the puck bunnies? Which would make them a lot like the last few teams Semler had.

Maybe Red needs to sit a few of the 'flat' players of this team, and play Musil, Cerratani, Norman and Tegeler the rest of the season. The results can't end up being any worse.
 
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rufus said:
Yeah. He tells them what they need to be doing, and then they don't do it. Question is, why don't they do it? What's the issue here? And how do you fix it?

Red says they weren't sharp, and then says he doesn't know why they weren't. Sounds almost like he has no idea how to get this ship righted. Or else he realizes that he can't, and has just given up trying.

And Leen. "We came out flat" Not the first time we've heard statements like this over the season. Why? Why are they coming out flat? Perhaps the players on this team should take a good long look at themselves and decide if they want to play hockey at this level? If they want to do what needs to be done to win games? Or are they content just sitting on their free rides, whileing away a few hours on Friday and Saturday nights until they can get to the parties and the puck bunnies? Which would make them a lot like the last few teams Semler had.

Maybe Red needs to sit a few of the 'flat' players of this team, and play Musil, Cerratani, Norman and Tegeler the rest of the season. The results can't end up being any worse.
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He also said they "have to spend too much energy to play that well" when asked about the difference between Friday and Saturday. Probably the same reason why the 3rd period collapses in a number of games. The skill level and depth is not there and they have to play really hard to execute Red's up-tempo game, especially vs. some other teams that have depth of skilled players who skate well with less effort. At some point the energy just gives out and they can't execute.

BTW, Alex Quirk at WMEB has been posting the press conferences for a while,including the player and opposing team interviews. You can find them all here:
http://wmebsports.com/
Thanks Alex.
 
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Then perhaps, knowing that, their conditioning level should be that much higher that they can make that effort for that much longer before that energy gives out.
 
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rufus said:
Yeah. He tells them what they need to be doing, and then they don't do it. Question is, why don't they do it? What's the issue here? And how do you fix it?

Red says they weren't sharp, and then says he doesn't know why they weren't. Sounds almost like he has no idea how to get this ship righted. Or else he realizes that he can't, and has just given up trying.

And Leen. "We came out flat" Not the first time we've heard statements like this over the season. Why? Why are they coming out flat? Perhaps the players on this team should take a good long look at themselves and decide if they want to play hockey at this level? If they want to do what needs to be done to win games? Or are they content just sitting on their free rides, whileing away a few hours on Friday and Saturday nights until they can get to the parties and the puck bunnies? Which would make them a lot like the last few teams Semler had.

Maybe Red needs to sit a few of the 'flat' players of this team, and play Musil, Cerratani, Norman and Tegeler the rest of the season. The results can't end up being any worse.
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Thats what you get from him saying they can't do it 2 nights in a row.? What he wouldn't say was, They don;t have the talent, they have to expend every bit of energy they have, play perfect and then they are spent the next night. Those guys you mentioned aren't playing because they are worse then whats playing already
 
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One, it'd be a big accomplishment if he could get them to play something even approaching perfect. And using all their energy to play a BU or Lowell or a PC, maybe I can buy that. But Notre Dame? UHN? UMass? I ain't buying it.

I think maybe another thing he's not saying is they aren't in the shape they need to be in. And what's the excuse for coming out flat? Too tired? Just can't work up the ambition to give a sh*t?
 
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If we are hearing/seeing this...and this is a MESS,what can you expect next season with more or less the same players with the exception of the incoming recruits...the same base core...phew could be another nightmare for the 2015-16 season.
 
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rufus said:
One, it'd be a big accomplishment if he could get them to play something even approaching perfect. And using all their energy to play a BU or Lowell or a PC, maybe I can buy that. But Notre Dame? UHN? UMass? I ain't buying it.

I think maybe another thing he's not saying is they aren't in the shape they need to be in. And what's the excuse for coming out flat? Too tired? Just can't work up the ambition to give a sh*t?
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I don't why they come out flat on Saturday but I know they expended some energy on Friday. They were flying and very physical. How can they not be in shape 3/4 of the way thru the season. I don't believe that at all. This team doesn't have the guns to compete, thats very obvious on D and goaltending. The offense is the same as we've had for years, no real snipers, lots of grinders
 
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The Alfond was just plain dead Saturday night. I've never seen it so dead in 25 years of going to games. But the play on the ice had a lot to do with it. Just no motivation at all. Do you think these guys like seeing fans heading for the exits at the second intermission? That alone ought to wake 'em up
 
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rufus said:
So why do they keep having "brain cramps"? Why do they keep "coming out flat" as Leen said? They're not getting better, and they're not playing more competitively.

I'm beginning to wonder if Red has what it takes to be a head coach at this level. And almost beginning to miss TIMMAY.
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"Have to spend too much energy to play that well", "Brain Cramps", and "Coming out flat", are just different ways of saying, "Not that Talented", and "Not that good". You are what your record sais you are. It's as simple as that.
 
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Being out here in the Midwest I do not get to see games and live vicariously through the comments on this board. I think it is important to remember that this is a rebuilding process and it will take time. Red deserves the benefit of the doubt while he continues to recruit better talent. This team is moving in the right direction but it will take time to see the results.
 
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There's a HUGE difference in my mind between not having the talent and not trying. And this team gives 100% effort 50% of the time. And that is what is completely unacceptable to me. If they put max effort in and lost every game I'd be Ok with that. But to hear over and over again the "we came out flat" crap ....I'm sick of it. I agree with Rufus. Maybe Red doesn't have what it takes. You have to cook with what's in the cupboard and Red ain't cooked up anything but a sour meal. I'm not saying it's 100% on him but as the coach, ultimately it is on him.
 
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BlackBearinGopherLand said:
Being out here in the Midwest I do not get to see games and live vicariously through the comments on this board. I think it is important to remember that this is a rebuilding process and it will take time. Red deserves the benefit of the doubt while he continues to recruit better talent. This team is moving in the right direction but it will take time to see the results.
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All due respect, "it's going to take time," "rebuild," "Rome wasn't built in a day" are things that Maine fans do not like hearing. A lot of the diehards are getting sick of those cliches. One NCAA tournament appearance since 2007 is not acceptable for this program at all. Red knows it and fans know it.
 
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BlackBearinGopherLand said:
.............. This team is moving in the right direction but it will take time to see the results.
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Eventually, Maine will probably head in the right direction. Right now it's difficult to say that they are. Last year's conference record at the end of the season was 9 - 8 - 3. So far this year their record is 5 - 9 - 2. If they can win 4 of the final 6 games they will at least equal last year's win total. With the addition of Connecticut, Maine plays two additional league games.
 
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ck1969 said:
There's a HUGE difference in my mind between not having the talent and not trying. And this team gives 100% effort 50% of the time. And that is what is completely unacceptable to me. If they put max effort in and lost every game I'd be Ok with that. But to hear over and over again the "we came out flat" crap ....I'm sick of it. I agree with Rufus. Maybe Red doesn't have what it takes. You have to cook with what's in the cupboard and Red ain't cooked up anything but a sour meal. I'm not saying it's 100% on him but as the coach, ultimately it is on him.
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I think he wants to coach his style and doesn't have the guys to play that style. I wondered why he hasn't packed it in and played like Merrimack or UConn. Boring D first hockey. He seems to be saying this is what we do even if we can't do it.?
 
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walrus said:
I think he wants to coach his style and doesn't have the guys to play that style. I wondered why he hasn't packed it in and played like Merrimack or UConn. Boring D first hockey. He seems to be saying this is what we do even if we can't do it.?
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Agree. But if, as you say, we've got a team full of grinders, can't you at least expect them to do some grinding? Win the battles along the boards, get to the net front, bang in some cheap goals? All I saw Saturday night was what we saw with TIMMAY here: the team fell behind, and then totally abandoned the "team concept" and it was just a bunch of guys carrying the puck into the zone and letting low percentage shots fly. No one in front for rebounds, no one trying to get in front to have a better shooting chance, and no one passing the puck around to create opportunities. Hit the top of the circle and let it fly.

I think the bigger problem with this team than lack of talent is lack of heart.
 
Re: Maine Hockey 2014-15 Volume 2: Red's Revenge

walrus said:
I think he wants to coach his style and doesn't have the guys to play that style. I wondered why he hasn't packed it in and played like Merrimack or UConn. Boring D first hockey. He seems to be saying this is what we do even if we can't do it.?
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I'm sure he does want to implement his style but he doesn't have the type of players to be successful with that type of play.....so as the coach you adjust and try to maximize what you have. He hasn't done that IMO and I think they players know it isn't working and have clearly tuned him out. All great coaches no matter what the sport adapt to the talent they have. You can't rely on a system to create talent. The season is almost over and he hasn't been able to figure out how to best use what he has. Yes there's a lack of talent but this team should be better than they are. I'm sorry but that's poor coaching and stubbornness.
 
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