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Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

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Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Fishman'81 said:
A minor point to make at this juncture, but I am amazed that anyone would still cite Heggs as anything but a disaster... He is but another in a long string of shining examples of how poorly TW's defencemen have been coached. For example: both Pryor and O'Connor clearly had the tools as Freshman, but are apparent train-wrecks as we speak.

Please face the facts and quit, Tim!
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I truly believe this comes down to recruiting. Norman, Liedermark and Anderson, nice kids but Swedish meatballs on the ice, Pryor, skills of Tarzan, plays like Jane...Ouellete was far too young to play straight from HS, Beattie same thing. Heggerty was very much the same. Tim Ghandi and his lackey Dan " the man without a plan" Kerluke, have brought these kids in, have fallen in love with their choices and now the program suffers....Bill Norman, full scholarship guy,,,,ask yourself, was that a good investment...? Ouellette has to be on the way out, suspended for 2 games for disciplinary issues......does sully look like a real top tier HE goalie?....Morris is athletic and seems like a gamer and has been well coached....( Monty.....) but is young and needs time Cornell having to adjust his game considerably because he is with Pryor...
D in gneral pressing but forwards can't seem to break out...1 goal this weekend...from Nemec....Where is Anthoine?, Where is Shemansky......We had a 5-3 and never got a shot on net as Pryor and Shemansky played 'catch on one side, while we had the other point wide open.... and Joey"Tri-Captain" Diamond had better learn to stay on the ***g ice...
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Thirty-eight of the fifty-nine teams in DI get votes from people thinking they are in the top 20. Eight teams from Hockey East get votes. The only thing we know for sure, then, is that Maine and Vermont are not top-20 material. At least at this point.
 
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BearNecessity said:
I truly believe this comes down to recruiting. Diamond had better learn to stay on the ***g ice...
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put "recruiting" a different way

it all comes down to what the coaching staff can offer the recruit.
can the coaching staff offer "only" a free education
can the coaching staff offer expert development
can the coaching staff promise that the recruit will play against top opponents with the right scouts watching
can the coaching staff offer practices that will hone the recruit's skills

does the coaching staff put education behind sports (i.e. will the coach see to it that an illiterate recruit will be able matriculate and pass a few years of college classes)...

these are all things that the recruit and his family advisor will look at.

and if Timmy's top players only have a 1 in 20 chance of making the NHL... Timmy is gonna have a tough time recruiting.
and of those who do not make the NHL... if they only have a 1 in 6 chance of cracking a playing lineup in the AHL...

compare Timmy's last 4 senior classes with Blasi's ...never mind York, Parker, Berenson, Gwozdeky, Jackson, Hackstol
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

UncleRay said:
Thirty-eight of the fifty-nine teams in DI get votes from people thinking they are in the top 20. Eight teams from Hockey East get votes. The only thing we know for sure, then, is that Maine and Vermont are not top-20 material. At least at this point.
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whoever is voting is a bunch of fools... they are not even considering all those frozen fours
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

I'll say it again because a few Timmy apologists have reappeared. There is a huge lack of talent on this team. That is the coaching staff's responsibility. Bring in hard working, talented hockey players who will go to class and be decent members of the community. Coaching staff has brought in far fewer than needed talented hockey players.

I'm sick of people defending any of the blue liners. There is zero skill back there with exception of Hutton. Nemec is big, but turnover prone and loses key battles along boards because he doesn't use body to best of ability. Pryor whiffs on shots on PP, turns puck over.

Sullivan is a. 890-900 guy in net. Not good enough. I want to see more of Morris.

Too many undersized forwards with not enough skill and speed to make up for it. Diamond, Shore, Anthoine, Merchant, Lomberg, Beatie are good, but not great college players. I see potential in Shore, but he's a young freshman. Diamond is trying to do too much without Abbott and Flynn.

St. Lawrence had a guy on weak side all alone too many times to count. Puck carrier and two others would carry up right side while guy would sneak up left side and be all alone. Point Carvel (SLU coach). Timmy out coached once again.
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Coaching and goaltending are super important in college hockey. Maine had had neither since Grant left.

Want examples? Cronin and Theisen at Northeastern and Dennehy and Cannata at Merrimack. Long story short, Maine needs to recruit better goaltending and needs a new coaching staff.
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

SLU kept going high blocker side on Sullivan. The book might be out on how to beat him.
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

irishfan85 said:
Coaching and goaltending are super important in college hockey. Maine had had neither since Grant left.

Want examples? Cronin and Theisen at Northeastern and Dennehy and Cannata at Merrimack. Long story short, Maine needs to recruit better goaltending and needs a new coaching staff.
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I would say it is since Bishop left the goaltending has been bad. I think you were a little harsh on Sullivan in your other post, goaltending is to a large degree a product of the skaters, but it definitely does have to at least be more consistent. For me, the timing is absolutely perfect to replace Timmy with Jimmy.
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Sully would have to Patrick Roy to make up for the D

When your D refuses to stand anyone up its gonna make for some long games for the goalie
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

I'm not saying it's all Sullivan's fault, but it is not like he's a good Hockey East goalie either. I guess what I'm saying is now that Flynn, Abbott, Mangene and O'Neill are gone the power play is awful and there isn't one good aspect of the team.
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

BearNecessity said:
I truly believe this comes down to recruiting. Norman, Liedermark and Anderson, nice kids but Swedish meatballs on the ice, Pryor, skills of Tarzan, plays like Jane...Ouellete was far too young to play straight from HS, Beattie same thing. Heggerty was very much the same. Tim Ghandi and his lackey Dan " the man without a plan" Kerluke, have brought these kids in, have fallen in love with their choices and now the program suffers....Bill Norman, full scholarship guy,,,,ask yourself, was that a good investment...? Ouellette has to be on the way out, suspended for 2 games for disciplinary issues......does sully look like a real top tier HE goalie?....Morris is athletic and seems like a gamer and has been well coached....( Monty.....) but is young and needs time Cornell having to adjust his game considerably because he is with Pryor...
D in gneral pressing but forwards can't seem to break out...1 goal this weekend...from Nemec....Where is Anthoine?, Where is Shemansky......We had a 5-3 and never got a shot on net as Pryor and Shemansky played 'catch on one side, while we had the other point wide open.... and Joey"Tri-Captain" Diamond had better learn to stay on the ***g ice...
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What happen to Ouellette to be suspended..?
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Wow, early in the season for so much drama! Do Whitehead teams always start this slow? I was encouraged in how the team came together last year and it seemed like Tim pushed all of the right buttons. The problem is that we'll never get these pairwise points back, and have to turn it around quickly.
 
Hockeyman99 said:
Wow, early in the season for so much drama! Do Whitehead teams always start this slow? I was encouraged in how the team came together last year and it seemed like Tim pushed all of the right buttons. The problem is that we'll never get these pairwise points back, and have to turn it around quickly.
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Pairwise?!? This team won't win 10 games.
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Wow, early in the season for so much drama! Do Whitehead teams always start this slow? I was encouraged in how the team came together last year and it seemed like Tim pushed all of the right buttons. The problem is that we'll never get these pairwise points back, and have to turn it around quickly.
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Hockeyman99 said:
Wow, early in the season for so much drama! Do Whitehead teams always start this slow? I was encouraged in how the team came together last year and it seemed like Tim pushed all of the right buttons. The problem is that we'll never get these pairwise points back, and have to turn it around quickly.
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With all due respect, I don't think this team has what it takes to turn things around. If they can't beat the lower rated teams now, there is no way they are going to pile up victories down the road vs the BC's, BU's, UNH's, UML's, etc of the world. I can't remember a Maine team ever getting beat so bad in a weekend series at home, not even close to that bad. Zero offense, brutal defense, below average goaltending and a terrible coach, it just ain't gonna happen....
 
Re: Maine 2012 - The Good, the Bad, or the Ugly??

Drew S. said:
Whatever the players are being told in practice isn't working. If you can't miss the first man on a shot from the point you're in a lot of trouble. I think the issue might be time being spent on 'systems' instead of individual skills. I think to some degree its up to the players to figure out how to get the puck to the net, its not like they're just starting out.
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Yeah, but it's a whole lot easier to do that when the defenders are playing at half speed. When at full game speed, the things you do in your half speed practices aren't going to work. Practices need to be tougher than games, so once you are in the game, you're acting and reacting on instinct and muscle memory, and not being baffled by what you're seeing on the ice.
 
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