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Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

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Priceless said:
Why Jim Montgomery isn't the guy to be Maine's next head coach.
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I didn't really see any reason in this blog entry as to why Montgomery wouldn't be the next coach at Maine. Really there wasn't any argument against it. I will say I don't think it will be before next season, unfortunately. But Montgomery seems a logical successor. Especially after just taking the Clark cup with an expansion team.


I liked this quote in the blog though : "Whitehead’s done his part in terms of recruiting but he can’t exactly help the fact that the major pieces he wanted to build around jumped ship and bolted for The Q"

Yeah. That's the reason Timmay hasn't had any success, because the major pieces jumped ship. Right.....
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

It's kind of funny that Jim Montgomery's name is being batted around in a thread that has women's hoops in the title.

I'm not suggesting that Montgomery = Blodget. Far from it. He always seemed to have the makings of a good leader. But this season is the first time he's really run a team, right?

I think he should be in the mix, but if/when the university actually gets off its arse and runs a men's hockey search, it should be a full search, not a Montgomery coronation.
 
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Quick question, I thought I followed the team pretty closely, but did Gustav Nyquist go Major Junior? Tanner House? Jeff Dimmen? No? Then what excuse is Major Junior? Great point for 2009. Useless point for 2011. Don't remmeber Maine losing a major goaltending recruit to Major Junior either, though maybe I'm wrong.

The guy writes that this year, 2011-12, is a make or break year for Whitehead? What planet has he been on? 2010-11 was the make or break and it broke. That blog being portrayed as an actual reason Maine won't hire Montgomery struck a chord with me because clearly it was written by someone who doesn't follow this team regularly and is just hitting on the internet nutcase talking points. Real enlightening.

RE Montgomery/Blodgett: Different animals. There's a proven track record of guys that have gone from heading a USHL program to being a successful dead coach. What track record was there of people with one year of low Ivy assistantship going to successful head coach? I can't guarantee that Montgomery would be a good fit or that he'd win, and I'm not even advocating hiring him. But you can't hang him for Cindy's sake. Amherst is right, though, full search is completely necessary if/when.
 
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RE Montgomery/Blodgett: Different animals. There's a proven track record of guys that have gone from heading a USHL program to being a successful dead coach.
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The team has already gone the dead coach route; I doubt anyone really wants to go through that again.

Amherst is right, though, full search is completely necessary if/when.
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As much as you all hate to hear this, it's "when." Tim isn't going to be the head coach for all eternity. begin jokes...now
 
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amherstblackbear said:
It's kind of funny that Jim Montgomery's name is being batted around in a thread that has women's hoops in the title.

I'm not suggesting that Montgomery = Blodget. Far from it. He always seemed to have the makings of a good leader. But this season is the first time he's really run a team, right?

I think he should be in the mix, but if/when the university actually gets off its arse and runs a men's hockey search, it should be a full search, not a Montgomery coronation.
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You are right that it should not just be the Jim Montgomery show only,here's a few names that could be of interest: Campbell Blair..(Asst. Coach/Alaska Anchorage)-- Mike Cavanaugh..(Asst. Coach/Boston College)-- Red Gendron..(Asst. Coach/UMass)-- Ron Rolston..(Head Coach/USNDT)-- Joe Exter..(Goalie Coach/USNDT)...thats just a few of many that could be ask to interview along with Mr. Montgomery.
 
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Priceless said:
The team has already gone the dead coach route; I doubt anyone really wants to go through that again.



As much as you all hate to hear this, it's "when." Tim isn't going to be the head coach for all eternity. begin jokes...now
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Holy chit man...you mean theres some reason for optimism in the next 20 years ?
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

I like Tim. He did a great job with Gus. Look at how much Abbott and Flynn have developed as an example.

I think we will have a better season than people expect. I may sound optomistic but I like our recruits coming in and I believe players will continue to develop.
 
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BoSox3066 said:
When I saw a blog about Maine hockey from someone in Indiana, I was hoping for some actual new information coming out of the USHL. Maybe a quote about the Maine job or something.

What I got was a laughably off point op-ed.
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Seriously. I had to laugh when he stated "Every program, at some time, just goes through a bad stretch and right now its Maine’s time." Give me a break! Is it supposed to be some sort of uncontrollable rite of passage for every program???.......B.S.! Sounds like a total TIMMAY apologist if not TIMMAY himself!..................
 
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Big Papa said:
I like Tim. He did a great job with Gus. Look at how much Abbott and Flynn have developed as an example.

I think we will have a better season than people expect. I may sound optomistic but I like our recruits coming in and I believe players will continue to develop.
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Are you on drugs? Flynn and Abbott are good hockey players and Flynn out performed expectations as a recruited walk-on. Whitehead has nothing to do with their development. This program will be no where until Whitehead is gone.
 
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Big Papa said:
I like Tim. He did a great job with Gus. Look at how much Abbott and Flynn have developed as an example.

I think we will have a better season than people expect. I may sound optomistic but I like our recruits coming in and I believe players will continue to develop.
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so sad that the new fans have no idea what excellence is
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

Big Papa said:
I like Tim. He did a great job with Gus. Look at how much Abbott and Flynn have developed as an example.

I think we will have a better season than people expect. I may sound optomistic but I like our recruits coming in and I believe players will continue to develop.
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Nyquist was a talent you see every 10 years or so and Maine was lucky to land him,Abbott and Flynn are good players and this coming year we'll see if they were a product of Nyquist being around. As far as recruiting goes the last few years have been lean to say the least,compared to years back...more projects then studs...the goaltending has gone south and the team plays with no physical approach...the Coaching by Whitehead has been a steady decline after his first 2 seasons at Maine...you see it in the play/attitude/excuses and no in game plan changes...until there's a change in Coaching..(TW)..Maine Hockey is heading to the bottom and fast. If you see improvements then you don't follow the team very close. Thats 2-bad. But again thats your thoughts and you can say/see what you want.
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

Hey Nick, as the resident expert on easy regionals, where would you rank Notre Dame's and Duluth's roads to the Frozen Four? To refresh your memory, Notre Dame needed a lucky bounce to beat a team making its first tournament appearance since the Reagan Administration and then faced Dick Umile's Titans of March. Meanwhile, Duluth had to take on traditional ECAC powerhouse Union and everyone's favorite #1 seed, Yale. Those must rank among the most difficult regionals since the tournament expanded to 16 teams.
 
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Priceless said:
Hey Nick, as the resident expert on easy regionals, where would you rank Notre Dame's and Duluth's roads to the Frozen Four? To refresh your memory, Notre Dame needed a lucky bounce to beat a team making its first tournament appearance since the Reagan Administration and then faced Dick Umile's Titans of March. Meanwhile, Duluth had to take on traditional ECAC powerhouse Union and everyone's favorite #1 seed, Yale. Those must rank among the most difficult regionals since the tournament expanded to 16 teams.
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2011 NCAA tournament? Never heard of it...

Seriously... I don't worry about the road as much as the bracket itself. But yes, the UMD road was not quite up to snuff IMO, especially the front half with two ECAC fakers. The back half was also fortunate to avoid North Dakota on Saturday. I've seen tougher roads ('BC in 01 and '10 for instances) but they are the champ and that's the beauty of the tournament.

As far as actual brackets are concerned... The Bridgeport bracket was unfathomably putrid. That is undeniable ... as much as Yale fans may try. Manchester was much better than Bridgeport but that isn't saying much. The difficulty in this is figuring out what to think of Miami. Are they becoming the UNH of the West (rather than St. Cloud State being the UNH of the West... another favorite that appeared in a Maine bracket some crazily defended)? Trace the path of UNH from 98-05 and match it up with Miami's path. Frozen Four debacles, overtime losses in the title game, clueless coaches that stand behind the bench of their teams (preaching to the choir on this thread, I know!). Right now they are around UNH in 2004 on that trajectory. Is their best behind them? Interesting. I liked Miami this year, thought they were legit, and brought some cred to their bracket. It's not like they had a phony ECAC team pretending to be great at the #1 spot in that bracket. Notre Dame was vastly underrated. Merrimack was a tough out for sure. And UNH ended up giving themselves some cred by beating Miami before giving us their annual Umiliation.

Where to rank them? I don't know... do I give points to the Bridgeport bracket for having the national champ in it? I think so. At least the bracket wasn't full of 4 phonies, right?
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

The revenue and fans' passion generated by U. Conn's women's b-ball team team has certainly subsidized the U. Conn. men's hockey team. What would make Maine fans begrudge the relative success of their women's b-ball team except bigotry and ignorance?
 
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Osorojo said:
The revenue and fans' passion generated by U. Conn's women's b-ball team team has certainly subsidized the U. Conn. men's hockey team. What would make Maine fans begrudge the relative success of their women's b-ball team except bigotry and ignorance?
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Go back to sleep.
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

Look, sad sacks, if you want to pound your chests by dissing women's sports then start your own unisex forum. I suspect I am interrupting your own gender trolling by suggesting women's sports are worthy of respect. Women's college b-ball probably out-draws and produces more revenue than men's college hockey. Get over it. Grow up.
 
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