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Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

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Big Papa said:
Coach is part of the solution, not the problem. Stop blaming our head coach and just enjoy the great college hockey we get to watch. Go Black Bears!
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I won't STOP and I enjoy College Hockey more then you can think today/tommorrow and till I drop.
 
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Goblackbears09 said:
You can't have a great team, a great coach, and over the course of 4 years have nothing to show for it. I am not sure if Maine even has a winning record over the last 4 years.
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Over the last four years, Maine is 62-69-17 overall and 43-52-13 in Hockey East. Certainly the mark of a "great" program, right Papa?
 
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Guys, don't feed the mav troll.
 
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Maine is a great program on the national level. To say anything to the contrary is foolish. Programs are defined by 20 years+/-. A team is judged on 2-3 years.
 
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Hokydad said:
Maine is a great program on the national level. To say anything to the contrary is foolish. Programs are defined by 20 years+/-. A team is judged on 2-3 years.
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I agree with Hokydad. Maine is a great program on the national level.
I also believe in coach Whitehead, his staff and our players.
Go Black Bears!
 
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Runsub5 said:
Bob Corkum's under 17 team defeats Germany 4 - 2 in 5 country tournament. This is an excellent venue for a college hockey coach to develop a rapport with youngsters. If it leads to one or more of these kids coming to Maine, I view it as a bonus for the Maine hockey program.
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Probably won't result in snagging any talent from that particular team,but it might help Corkum build a resume that will at least result in his getting an interim-coaching opportunity at Maine.

I'm not saying that Bob's the answer,but it's very clear that Tim is not,and is just playing out the string...I say:give Corkum a shot.
 
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Big Papa said:
I agree with Hokydad. Maine is a great program on the national level.
I also believe in coach Whitehead, his staff and our players.
Go Black Bears!
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It's one thing to have faith in the team (I myself do every year whether I should or not), but to almost bat a blind eye to the lack of results being put forth by the coaching staff and the players and saying "It'll be fine, don't worry!" makes you look like a Kool-Aid drinkin' fool.

We saw a perfect example of a lack of results last year when the Bears flamed out in the first round of the Hockey East Tournament since that team was built to do reasonably well, but instead blew winnable games and underachieved all year. The numbers speak for themselves. Something is amiss on the ice at the Alfond Arena, yet Timmay would just rather collect his paycheck and than actually game-plan to fix the recurring problems that seem to surface over and over in games. There's nothing wrong with holding the head coach of a great program responsible for not getting the job done. In fact, it seems like common sense.

I'd just assume take my chances with either Corkum or Montgomery/Standbrook (Perhaps all three?) behind the helm and put the Timmay Era behind us.
 
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rufus said:
Guys, don't feed the mav troll.
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Really, please stop responding to Big Papa, he is getting what he wants as long as you do and its ruining the thread
 
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walrus said:
Really, please stop responding to Big Papa, he is getting what he wants as long as you do and its ruining the thread
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...or better yet, just click on his name to view his profile and then click on "add to ignore list," problem solved, at least until someone else quotes him.
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

Just got back from some time in Vacationland. I'll say this, you have some passionate fans up there for sure. Winter Harbor, Bar Harbor... everywhere. Good people, though.

A lot of folks not happy with Whitehead (duh!). Also on the complaint list was Hockey East officiating and the vile Umass fans (duh and duh again). While obvious, it's still nice to see some people are paying attention and care. Several also indicated they dropped their season tickets because the long drives they were making to Orono just wasn't worth it anymore.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
...I say:give Corkum a shot.
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As do I. He may not be the answer, but one thing you can be sure of is that his teams won't get outhustled or outworked. 2 things TIMMAY can't say.
 
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rufus said:
As do I. He may not be the answer, but one thing you can be sure of is that his teams won't get outhustled or outworked. 2 things TIMMAY can't say.
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No one can say that. He is part of the staff now and if you think they are getting outworked and outhustled, he is part of the problem as well. This is just as much his team as it is Whiteheads.
 
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Hokydad said:
No one can say that. He is part of the staff now and if you think they are getting outworked and outhustled, he is part of the problem as well. This is just as much his team as it is Whiteheads.
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Hopefully they having a falling out.............
 
Hokydad said:
No one can say that. He is part of the staff now and if you think they are getting outworked and outhustled, he is part of the problem as well. This is just as much his team as it is Whiteheads.
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Not even close to right, Hokydad. You are usually on the mark, but you're dead wrong here. Whitehead owns this team and has made sure Corkum is just a bit player. If you saw Corkum's fire on the bench the first couple of weeks when he started coaching at Maine, then saw him bow to Timmay from there out, you'd know this is Timmay's team 100%. The only thing Corkum can be faulted for is staying on while watching Timmay drive the program into the ground. This is not even close to his team as much as Timmay's
 
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year

Hokydad said:
No one can say that. He is part of the staff now and if you think they are getting outworked and outhustled, he is part of the problem as well. This is just as much his team as it is Whiteheads.
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If TIMMAY would let him do anything more than make sure the players are following TIMMAY's 'system'. Corkum's 'input' into this team was stifled shortly into his first year as coach, and other than a dramatic improvement in faceoffs, I don't think you can say there's much else he's been able to help this team in under TIMMAY's iron rule.

If Grant Standbrook couldn't have input into how this team is run, what makes you think Corkum has?

"We don't do that here at Maine". Like Bob Corkum doesn't know what you do and don't do at Maine. :rolleyes:
 
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