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LSSU Laker Hockey

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Laker-Blue said:
So the league that most of our regular posters bang on, OJHL, have commitments to the following:

Michigan 3
Clarkson 3
BU 2
Bowling Green 2
RPI 3
LSSU 3

You guys are right, bad place to recruit.
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I have no issue with the OJHL, any league that gives us a star in Monardo and promising talent like McParland, Lain and Campbell (although he's had a quiet season in the points category) is fine by me....My biggest issue is with the SJHL and the CJHL...keeping in mind that it is unfair to brand leagues "good or bad"...it's all about the player you're getting, it is just as easy to get a recruit that turns out poorly from a great league ( Barczuk from the USHL) as it is to get a productive player out of a lesser league (Haines from the SJHL)

My predictions for the weekend

Friday: LSSU 3 OSU 3 (LSSU wins shootout) goals: Power, McParland, Cowie
Saturday: LSSU 4 OSU 2 goals: Schofield (2), Monardo, Cassiani
 
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Lakers win the shootout with Kyle Jean scoring the clincher. LSSU gets 2 points in the standings.
 
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Yahoo!! Huge shootout win and huge two points. Kapalka shines again.

Also tonight's tie is the 9th of the year which is a new school record for most ties in a year.
 
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BG won the shootout over NMU 1-0 in the 4th round. LSSU is in 6th place 1 point behind Ferris, and 1 point ahead of NMU. Alaska could move ahead of the Lakers if they win tonight. Hopefully State can win that game tonight.
 
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An outright win tonight would secure no worse than home ice for the first round. Anything less and we'll probably have to wait until next weekend to see what happens. Another shoot-out win tonight coupled with an MSU outright win over Alaska would also guarantee the Lakers no worse than 8th place. All the tie games for the Lakers works against them when determining any final CCHA tie-breakers in the standings.
 
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If we can stay within a point or two of Alaska I think we'll be fine. I'm confident we can pick up that next weekend at home against Miami while Alaska finishes up their CCHA play this weekend. That was a big second point considering BGSU gave us a big boost with their shootout win. I'd be very pleased if the same results happened tonight across the league.
 
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AnchorsAway said:
I have no issue with the OJHL, any league that gives us a star in Monardo and promising talent like McParland, Lain and Campbell (although he's had a quiet season in the points category) is fine by me....My biggest issue is with the SJHL and the CJHL...keeping in mind that it is unfair to brand leagues "good or bad"...it's all about the player you're getting, it is just as easy to get a recruit that turns out poorly from a great league ( Barczuk from the USHL) as it is to get a productive player out of a lesser league (Haines from the SJHL)

My predictions for the weekend

Friday: LSSU 3 OSU 3 (LSSU wins shootout) goals: Power, McParland, Cowie
Saturday: LSSU 4 OSU 2 goals: Schofield (2), Monardo, Cassiani
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Not a shabby Friday pick, I got the LSSU shootout win right and I got Power scoring right although I thought the goalie would be more porous...Hopefully LSSU can win outright tonight and lock up at least a home playoff series!!
 
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Such a shame that the students will be on spring break if the Lakers end up hosting a first round series, especially if we end up playing Michigan State.
 
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AnchorsAway said:
I have no issue with the OJHL, any league that gives us a star in Monardo and promising talent like McParland, Lain and Campbell (although he's had a quiet season in the points category) is fine by me....My biggest issue is with the SJHL and the CJHL...keeping in mind that it is unfair to brand leagues "good or bad"...it's all about the player you're getting, it is just as easy to get a recruit that turns out poorly from a great league ( Barczuk from the USHL) as it is to get a productive player out of a lesser league (Haines from the SJHL)
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The SJHL provided the Lakers with many of their best players during their glory years. It certainly hasn't provided as many top notch Div 1 guys over the past 10-15 years, to the Lakers or any other Div 1 school. The SJHL still puts out some decent players, just not many that turn out to be stars at the Div 1 level. I've heard that many of the better players that might otherwise have played in the SJHL now choose to play in the BCHL instead. The BCHL is probably considered to be the hottest Canadian Junior A league for Div 1 schools to recruit from. Alas, because of the recruiting budget situation, I don't think the Lakers actively recruit in the BCHL. They may occasionally chase a lead there, but not frequently.

The Lakers don't bring in many players from the CJHL. I don't have any issue with them recruiting there. You look wherever you can within what your recruiting budget allows. Clarkson and some of the Ivy schools recruit actively in the CJHL as well.
 
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Bill said:
The SJHL provided the Lakers with many of their best players during their glory years. It certainly hasn't provided as many top notch Div 1 guys over the past 10-15 years, to the Lakers or any other Div 1 school. The SJHL still puts out some decent players, just not many that turn out to be stars at the Div 1 level. I've heard that many of the better players that might otherwise have played in the SJHL now choose to play in the BCHL instead. The BCHL is probably considered to be the hottest Canadian Junior A league for Div 1 schools to recruit from. Alas, because of the recruiting budget situation, I don't think the Lakers actively recruit in the BCHL. They may occasionally chase a lead there, but not frequently.

The Lakers don't bring in many players from the CJHL. I don't have any issue with them recruiting there. You look wherever you can within what your recruiting budget allows. Clarkson and some of the Ivy schools recruit actively in the CJHL as well.
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Bill I don't doubt that the SJHL has helped out the Laker program greatly in the past years but if the league has "cooled off" as far as recruiting goes than why do we seem so intent on trying to get blood out of a rock? Perrault is too young to make a judgement on but of the other SJHL players on our roster (Haines, Nehring, Hobbins, Stonehouse) wouldn't you agree that with all things considered (talent, size, flashes of good play,consistency, statistics,etc.) the only one who hasn't has a dissapointing career is Haines??

With the Lakers minimal recruiting budget hamstringing them as it is, I just don't see why it's necessary or fiscally justifiable to travel halfway across Canada to bring in players who will likely never develop into top 4 defenseman or top 4 or 5 forwards...

I realize that every hockey team needs "pieces of the puzzle" players who proabably never will amount to that, but I don't see why we can't grab those players out of a closer location and save some gas money...We're located in Michigan and within spitting distance of Ontario; with all of the hockey players coming out of these locations it seems like we could find our lower line players here doesn't it?
 
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AnchorsAway said:
Bill I don't doubt that the SJHL has helped out the Laker program greatly in the past years but if the league has "cooled off" as far as recruiting goes than why do we seem so intent on trying to get blood out of a rock? Perrault is too young to make a judgement on but of the other SJHL players on our roster (Haines, Nehring, Hobbins, Stonehouse) wouldn't you agree that with all things considered (talent, size, flashes of good play,consistency, statistics,etc.) the only one who hasn't has a dissapointing career is Haines??

With the Lakers minimal recruiting budget hamstringing them as it is, I just don't see why it's necessary or fiscally justifiable to travel halfway across Canada to bring in players who will likely never develop into top 4 defenseman or top 4 or 5 forwards...

I realize that every hockey team needs "pieces of the puzzle" players who proabably never will amount to that, but I don't see why we can't grab those players out of a closer location and save some gas money...We're located in Michigan and within spitting distance of Ontario; with all of the hockey players coming out of these locations it seems like we could find our lower line players here doesn't it?
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The Lakers have 10 guys out of the OJHL on the current roster, which is easily the most of any league represented on the roster. That seems to be their current favorite recruiting ground. They only have 5 from the SJHL and that number will be down to 3 next season. I think the coaches, particularly Roque and Christian, have good connections in the SJHL and feel comfortable recruiting there. That said, I don't think they will stop recruiting in the SJHL, but the overall number of guys from the SJHL on the roster isn't that great and the fact that it is diminishing is probably reflective of the SJHL not producing as many good players. These things tend to go in cycles, and the SJHL is going through a down cycle. I expect them to continue to bring in the greatest number of guys from the OJHL, at least in the near term. I would also like to see them go after more guys from the AJHL and the BCHL, but between money and not having the best connections I doubt that will happen anytime soon. I did hear Roque say on one of the Laker Hockey Shows that Christian did make at least one trip to Alberta to look at some guys this season. And of course almost everyone wants to see them recruit more guys out of the USHL, but that has been discussed on here on more than one occasion.
 
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DopeyBaker said:
Do you know this to be true or are you just guessing about their budget?
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I do not know the exact numbers regarding the Lakers budget so for the purposes of answering your question I suppose I would fall on the "guess" side of the ledger but I would say it is somewhat of an educated guess..the school has faced budget issues in other facets, on top of the fact that it is a small school with less general funding as a whole than most of the schools it is competing against, this puts us at a natural disadvantage when it comes to a recruiting budget...also when a good friend of mine was playing in the USHL he told me that LSSU personnel visited his team for recruiting purposes one time during his two seasons there, while every other CCHA team made multiple trips and over the course of his 2 seasons LSSU was subsequently the only CCHA school that didn't secure a recruit that played for his team during one time or another in those 2 years...he also said that LSSU was more or less regarded as a "phone call school" as opposed to a "visiting school" meaning players didnt get visits from them, only phone calls.

Bill and I have discussed how it is harder for LSSU to pull USHL recruits to LSSU especially if they're only third or 4th line USHL players. This is certainly true that it is harder to get players from a league like the USHL to come to LSSU but when you compare the 2 schools most like LSSU in the CCHA.. FSU and NMU (Smaller amount of general funding, smaller campus not in a big city, etc.) you will see that FSU has 8 USHL alumni and NMU has 11, not to say that the Lakers would approach those numbers if they more heavily recruited the United States top junior league but they would certainly get more USHL alumni than the 1 they currently have...so you are left with 1 of 2 scenarios 1. the Lakers lack of recruiting budget prevents them from giving most USHL teams and players a sufficient amount of attention so they spend their time recruiting lower level leagues where they are more likely to land recruits with less effort and just cross their fingers that they turn out to be productive or 2. The Lakers do have enough money to recruit the USHL sufficiently but are choosing not to when it is almost a certainty that they would be able to pull more players from there if they did and are ignoring the fact that the USHL is one of the most bankable leagues when it comes to recruits....I don't like either scanario but I'm at least ok with the logic of the first scenario...
 
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Bill said:
The Lakers have 10 guys out of the OJHL on the current roster, which is easily the most of any league represented on the roster. That seems to be their current favorite recruiting ground. They only have 5 from the SJHL and that number will be down to 3 next season. I think the coaches, particularly Roque and Christian, have good connections in the SJHL and feel comfortable recruiting there. That said, I don't think they will stop recruiting in the SJHL, but the overall number of guys from the SJHL on the roster isn't that great and the fact that it is diminishing is probably reflective of the SJHL not producing as many good players. These things tend to go in cycles, and the SJHL is going through a down cycle. I expect them to continue to bring in the greatest number of guys from the OJHL, at least in the near term. I would also like to see them go after more guys from the AJHL and the BCHL, but between money and not having the best connections I doubt that will happen anytime soon. I did hear Roque say on one of the Laker Hockey Shows that Christian did make at least one trip to Alberta to look at some guys this season. And of course almost everyone wants to see them recruit more guys out of the USHL, but that has been discussed on here on more than one occasion.
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Lol we must be on the same wavelength Bill, I was just referring to our USHL recruiting discussions in the post I put up a half hour after you posted this
 
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