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LSSU Hockey 2012-2013

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Really? Just so you know, this was a response to a comment made by Truth Squad. Seems to me you were pretty sure at this point who "Truthy" was.

I assume I know who he is, as do most other people herein. Actual knowledge is lacking, a fundementally fun part of random internet blithering and blathering. I still don't actually care. But thanks for the review.

The point?

If the point is: Stop responding to anti-LSSU, likely-disgruntled and unhappy souls who only want to see LSSU fail because of some insult -- either real or imagined? OK -- fair play. Valid point.

If the point is: Stop saying mean things about people who left Sault Ste. Marie years ago? Well . . . again the fan's right allows us to be critical of a professional's performance. We are free to be critical of the current adminstration and coaching staff, and we are equally free to be critical of the past coaches. And frankly, I am waiting for some sort of allegedly in-the-now, current, deep discussion of the state of LSSU hockey. Generally we get bland platitudes about the coach not being good enough, or the school not having enough money, or the doom and gloom future of college hockey in SSM.

I mentioned this randomly before: If you have a complaint about LSSU's hockey program, start your own little complaint jar. For every negative thing you haev to say about the current condition of LSSU hockey -- facilities, recruiting budget, coaching budget, ticket prices, anything like that: Send $20.00 to the LSSU Hockey Challange. Its a matching fund, so really your complaint is worth $40 to the program. Put your money where your mouth is.

If all you want to do is complain that the current coach isn't Frank . . . or Joe Shawan . . . or Jeff Jackson . . . or Scotty Bowman . . . explain why this bothers you. Feel free. Tell me about the forecheck system, and how Roque can improve that (in your opinion). Tell me about how to better mix the lines to improve chemistry. Tell me about the break-out, and how that can be better. Tell me about the many amazing recruits that you, yourself, would have easily found that Roque overlooked.

If you want to come on and tell us how great Frank Anzalone was, great. I agree. LSSU hockey would possibly not even exist without Frank. But don't try to sell my dog-doo in a sparkly baggy by telling me that Frank did a good job in his last tenure. He didn't. If you want to have a detailed discussion about how Scott Borek was not given the support he needed, or how Jackson knew the days on top were numbered and ran out of town -- great. We've had that discussion before, but you know I always hear something new and interesting when we talk about it again.

Its August.

There isn't a single LSSU player on the ice at the Norris.

Nothing wrong with idle chatter.

Want to talk about next year?

OK -- line predictions? Will Roque open up the forecheck and send in two low with one high, instead of the otehr way around? Is Roque confident in his 3rd and 4th line enough to give them an extra shift?
 
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OK -- line predictions? Will Roque open up the forecheck and send in two low with one high, instead of the otehr way around?

All depends on how mobile the back end is and if they could effectively cover for mistakes....my hunch is the forecheck stays the same.
 
There are those people on here that want to forget the lower divisions finishes of the past 8 season, along with dwindling attendances, players cut from the team for not playing ball, and off ice issues. Instead the vitriol is saved for former great coaches, talented players and even their parents. It's sad and almost pathetic the way you people up there blindly defend your agenda, at the expense of so many good people and kids that have done a lot for your little college.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

I've checked the D3 standings, LSSU was nowhere to be found.
 
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There are those people on here that want to forget the lower divisions finishes of the past 8 season, along with dwindling attendances, players cut from the team for not playing ball, and off ice issues. Instead the vitriol is saved for former great coaches, talented players and even their parents. It's sad and almost pathetic the way you people up there blindly defend your agenda, at the expense of so many good people and kids that have done a lot for your little college.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA


Just to clarify: Who is posting negative comments about the program and dwelling in the past? Just checking.
 
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There are those people on here that want to forget the lower divisions finishes of the past 8 season, along with dwindling attendances, players cut from the team for not playing ball, and off ice issues. Instead the vitriol is saved for former great coaches, talented players and even their parents. It's sad and almost pathetic the way you people up there blindly defend your agenda, at the expense of so many good people and kids that have done a lot for your little college.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA
You finally come to the realization that Anzalone is a "former" great coach! Gee, kids cut for not "playing ball." There's no obligation to play guys who don't adhere to the system, on and off the ice.
 
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Look at all the vitriolic comments being spewed for hall of fame coaches like Frank Anzalone and current players like Raven and former star players and their parents who were cut or anyone dares questions to motives and scruples of the current head of the administration who has finished in the bottom of the standings for the past 8 seasons, seen attendance dropped into averaging in the thousands, hundreds for playoff games, and had the same old excuses for the poor seasons year after year after year after year. You people never change up there and nor will you.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

The same could actually be said about you. Because you'll delete this post, something you'll never change.
 
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We have one more recruit for this coming season, Daniel Vernace who played forward for Trenton of the OJHL this past season (and earlier for Mississauga). A bit of a surprise, but its sounds like Shkreli has not recovered from his shoulder problem and there's no indication of when he might return, so presumably that made room for Vernace.

http://www.lssulakers.com/sports/m-hockey/2012-13/releases/summer_recruits_2012

http://trentonhawks.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=3187572&seasonid=9434
 
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Just to clarify: Who is posting negative comments about the program and dwelling in the past? Just checking.
I'll say again that Mr. Truth is not the problem, the ones who feel "obligated" to defend Coach Roque, and I use that word instead of "guilty" for the sake of not offending anyone, are the real problem. It is highly doubtful that Mr. Truth knows coach Anzalone. It is unlikely Mr. Truth knows the third goaltender. But it is obvious that Mr. Truth does not like Coach Roque and knows how to push the buttons of family and freinds. Most of us could care less about what happened so long ago. it does not bother us in the least. Any guilt regarding how Coach Roque got to where he is only matters to those closest to him and these people are the ones that need to let it go. It is evident that Mr. Truth could log in here once every couple weeks and enjoy himself doing this forever. Most of us don't care in the least and get less amused reading this stuff by the week.
 
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Whatever!!!

The Truth Is Out There.....
TBA
TBA

It is very good for Roque to have his friends and defenders in very important positions not only up in the Soo but also the unnamed donor or donors who are his buddies that are fitting the bill for this renovation project. Don't buy for a second that their ain't any conditions of keeping the current head coach in power for this supposed renovation money. Wonder why the donors are unnamed and what they are doing is so secretive? A good story for that newspaper. You wouldn't need the lap dogs to continue to bark if the records and results spoke for themselves. Going on year 8 under this guy and the lack of results on the ice and the team becoming more and more an afterthought in Sault Ste. Marie as evidenced by less and less people going to the games and the more someone is ridiculed and attacked if they dare speak out.

Truthie this is an intervention...

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We're here for you. We will help you get through this tough time and want to make tomorrow a better day for you.
 
You people up there think you are so clever and funny. Come March when you are making the same excused for the ninth straight season of bottom division finishes, dwindling attendance, star players not ever seeking the ice or off the team, vitriolic attacks on parents then well see.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

I'm not a LSSU fan. Never met Jim Roque, Frank Anzalone, or Colonel Sanders. I don't make excuses for LSSU as I don't care if they do well or not. You've made your point and deleted them, time to delete your account, if you can't be more productive.
 
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We have one more recruit for this coming season, Daniel Vernace who played forward for Trenton of the OJHL this past season (and earlier for Mississauga). A bit of a surprise, but its sounds like Shkreli has not recovered from his shoulder problem and there's no indication of when he might return, so presumably that made room for Vernace.

http://www.lssulakers.com/sports/m-hockey/2012-13/releases/summer_recruits_2012

http://trentonhawks.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=3187572&seasonid=9434

Yeah, Bill, that's what Roque stated on the Lakers website, that Shkreli probably won't being playing this season. The late recruits sound like great character kids, team captains and all, but hope they can find ways to put the puck in the net while wearing the anchor.
 
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If things at LSSU go the way Truthy thinks they do, all he needs to do is donate $5,000,000.00 to the University and I'm sure he can have Jim Roque ousted.
I like these posts alot better. Mr. Truth is fair game. It's great when the others are left out. I like your posts as well Mr/Ms Lakers2Glory. You are positive and fair.
Mr. Lakerblue, did you see on the other thread that the Windsor Spitfires received a huge fine and sanctions for paying players under the table. How much of that went on back when you were in the league and do you have any stories? What years did you play in the OHL and how much did players get under the table? It sounds like some receive as much as six figures if you believe the reports.
No specific details were released that I saw in the report that was posted.
 
I like these posts alot better. Mr. Truth is fair game. It's great when the others are left out. I like your posts as well Mr/Ms Lakers2Glory. You are positive and fair.
Mr. Lakerblue, did you see on the other thread that the Windsor Spitfires received a huge fine and sanctions for paying players under the table. How much of that went on back when you were in the league and do you have any stories? What years did you play in the OHL and how much did players get under the table? It sounds like some receive as much as six figures if you believe the reports.
No specific details were released that I saw in the report that was posted.

Late 1980s. We got some per diem and a host family. Not much else. There was an excellent article on this issue at canoe.ca last week. There is a rift between the haves and the have-nots in the ohl. It seems funny to have Windsor in that mix, but the new stadium really changed things.

For what its worth Windsor has denied the allegations. But the gun sure seems to be smoking as multiple ncaa players have gone to the spitfires in recent years.
 
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Looks pretty good; sound like he might be a scorer.

Is it normal for a D1 school that can offer scholarships to poach a committed player two weeks before classes start? Seems like a shady thing to do. Although I am glad they took him away from a rival (D3) school. Good for the player, not so great from a coaching moral standpoint.
 
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Is it normal for a D1 school that can offer scholarships to poach a committed player two weeks before classes start? Seems like a shady thing to do. Although I am glad they took him away from a rival (D3) school. Good for the player, not so great from a coaching moral standpoint.
I'm not sure how common it is (probably not very), but LSSU has one forward who is out indefinitely with a shoulder injury and evidently won't be ready to play this season, and another forward who signed with the Rangers this summer and left school early, so the coaching staff did some late recruiting to bolster what they felt to be a thinner than desired forward corps. I don't believe the forward in question would have received an offer from LSSU if it weren't for these other circumstances. I don't disagree with you're questioning the morality of it, but I'm not sure we know the full set of circumstances.
 
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Is it normal for a D1 school that can offer scholarships to poach a committed player two weeks before classes start? Seems like a shady thing to do. Although I am glad they took him away from a rival (D3) school. Good for the player, not so great from a coaching moral standpoint.

I'm guessing by his mid summer commitment to the d-3 school that he was holding out for a d-1 scholarship that did'nt materialize. Hence the late commitment to the d-3 program.I think Shawn Hunwick at Michigan did the same thing after U of M lost a goalie late in the summer to the ohl.I think this kind of stuff happens more than people think, especially with the OHL and NHL signing kids more and more these days. Just stinks for all parties involved to lose players the coaching staffs thought they would be having. Most of these kids have wanted the opportunity to get a d-1 scholarship all along though.
 
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