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LSSU Hockey 2011-2012

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sm2pk said:
Bill,we have this same conversation at the end of every season . Half the time we find players who produced this year actually produced less the following season and so forth . What you are saying in effect is , wait until next season . After seven years , we know what next season is going to be like. Seven years of Roque and the question should only be , do you actually think anything is going to change or just some high marks followed by the usual bottom tier finished and a short run in the playoffs under this system ?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers were picked even lower for next season in the pre-season polls. I think this year they were picked 9th and in reality that is where they finished up. Despite what Crawford says, when you win the shootout you just get an extra point, not a victory it is a tie. Throw those out and the Lakers finished 9th, behind Ohio State and Notre Dame. Do the math. With Bowling Green having a new coach and improving as the season went along, winning at Michigan, sweeping Northern, a team that swept Lake Superior, and giving Ferris a run for their money, I would think you would put them ahead of Lake Superior, leaving only Alaska as a team expected to be behind Lake Superior with a certain year-8 of the Roque experiment, and the same results as the first 7, if not worse.
 
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What still has me amazed is as the first period wore on,Western was skating Lake State into the ice and doing whatever the hell they wanted to do. Why didn't Roque call his one time out and try to get his players heads into the game and take the flow of the game at that point away from Western if he could. Roque waits until 90 seconds is left and down 3 goals to organize some plan. Don't even anyone say you never know if you may need that time out later or not. It was needed in the first period and they sat on it. I kept yelling at the screen in the first period. Stop this game and organize your players now. There is no second chance after tonight if you lose.
 
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sm2pk said:
What still has me amazed is as the first period wore on,Western was skating Lake State into the ice and doing whatever the hell they wanted to do. Why didn't Roque call his one time out and try to get his players heads into the game and take the flow of the game at that point away from Western if he could. Roque waits until 90 seconds is left and down 3 goals to organize some plan. Don't even anyone say you never know if you may need that time out later or not. It was needed in the first period and they sat on it. I kept yelling at the screen in the first period. Stop this game and organize your players now. There is no second chance after tonight if you lose.
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That was shocking. Probably the best I've seen them play in the 2nd half. By comparison, Murray used his 3 minutes into the 2nd period to yell at his players after LSSU came out strong early. 15 minutes of game time later- Game over. He's done that about half the time this year (using the TO either because his players are sucking or after an icing)
 
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Flashy Man said:
I've got a suggestion, donate money. Worked for Tech, wouldn't have been able to hire a $275k a year coach without donors at least initially. Financially, it has balanced out now.
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Western did the same when they hired Blashill.

Even if a change was made at LSSU, they would not have the money to hire a proven coach. How much does Roque actually make? I would guess maybe 60,000 per year.
 
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Laker Dude said:
Western did the same when they hired Blashill.

Even if a change was made at LSSU, they would not have the money to hire a proven coach. How much does Roque actually make? I would guess maybe 60,000 per year.
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I think he makes around 81,000. True, they don't have a lot of money to offer. If they don't renew Roque's contract, their options would likely be limited to (1) Give Tim Christian a shot at it; (2) Try and get a current Junior coach from the USHL; (3) Find someone with past connections to the Laker program who is interested; (4) Go after a Div 3 coach such as Ron Fogarty from Adrian. I suppose there might be a possibility of getting an assistant from a big name program who wants to be a Div 1 head coach bad enough to take a pay cut at LSSU, but that's not very likely.
 
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Bill said:
I think he makes around 81,000. True, they don't have a lot of money to offer. If they don't renew Roque's contract, their options would likely be limited to (1) Give Tim Christian a shot at it; (2) Try and get a current Junior coach from the USHL; (3) Find someone with past connections to the Laker program who is interested; (4) Go after a Div 3 coach such as Ron Fogarty from Adrian. I suppose there might be a possibility of getting an assistant from a big name program who wants to be a Div 1 head coach bad enough to take a pay cut at LSSU, but that's not very likely.
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I don't see any problem being the cradle for young an up coming coaches. In the Mid Am Miami is known as the cradle of coaches. The University of Toledo had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (Missouri) and Tim Beckman (Illinois) in recent times. LSSU also has it's reputation as a jumping off spot.
 
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I think Roque is around 81,000..Walt Kyle about 131,000 and Pearson at Tech about 259,000. Give Joey Shawhan a shot at head coach.
 
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LSSULaker889294 said:
Go Bowling Green!!!
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Western makes a coaching change they are in the NCAA tournament. Bowling Green makes a coaching change and they are going to the Joe Louis Arena. Lake Superior doesn't make a coaching change for the 8th straight season and you people up there know full well the results. Lower division finishes, early playoff exits, second half Roque slides, average attendance half full, playoff crowds in the hundreds, players not seeing any playing time after being promised some, former coaches and parents of solid players being blamed, excuses, and more of the same. You would think you people up there would take off your blinders, put down your pom poms for this coach and take a look around. It isn't about money, although that is a convienant excuse to justify yet another year, despite the overwhelming body of work that has not worked and all the obvious signs to make a change. But you won't and you people only have yourselves to blame for your little college and their lack of success for soon to be the 8th season in a row.

The Truth Is Out There.....
TBA
 
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Bowling Green is going to the Joe and Roque could not try and stop the bleeding Saturday in the first period by using his time out. I lost total confidence in this coaching staff in that game. I think the timeout being used in the last 90 seconds down 3 goals was a snow job. Roque will stay and the hope will be once in the new WCHA the Lakers can be a top tier team . Even that is going to backfire.
 
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sm2pk said:
Bowling Green is going to the Joe and Roque could not try and stop the bleeding Saturday in the first period by using his time out. I lost total confidence in this coaching staff in that game. I think the timeout being used in the last 90 seconds down 3 goals was a snow job. Roque will stay and the hope will be once in the new WCHA the Lakers can be a top tier team . Even that is going to backfire.
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Bring back Scott Borek lol!!
 
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sm2pk said:
Bowling Green is going to the Joe and Roque could not try and stop the bleeding Saturday in the first period by using his time out. I lost total confidence in this coaching staff in that game. I think the timeout being used in the last 90 seconds down 3 goals was a snow job. Roque will stay and the hope will be once in the new WCHA the Lakers can be a top tier team . Even that is going to backfire.
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I'm sure if Roque would have called that timeout and scolded his players, the momentum would have changed and we'd be headed for the Joe right now.
 
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DopeyBaker said:
I'm sure if Roque would have called that timeout and scolded his players, the momentum would have changed and we'd be headed for the Joe right now.
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We don't know what would have happened except for the coaching staff trying to get a grip on things before Western just blew the Lakers off the ice. Sometimes it is just smart to stop a game and throw a curve ball . Ninety seconds left in a game,down by 3 and you call for a time out. Roque called that timeout 2 periods too late. When did Western use their time out? Second period I believe and they were up. Coaching is just that ,coaching. You see things running out of control in a do or die game, don't stare at the ice . Calling time out down by 3 with ninety seconds left was a snow job.
 
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Always better to wait a few days before posting, because that was a stinker of a weekend. A pure pile of doo-doo dung. The team was totally unprepared.

And this seems to dovetail too-neatly with the Lakers sloppy Friday performances this year. I was really pleased with the improved paly from the team this year. As indicated in earlier postings, the transition game was tremendously improved this season -- with good outlet passes hitting wingers in stride. I was also impressed this season with the slightly-more-aggressive forecheck. Instead of playing a straight 1-2-2 forecheck, Roque took off the leash and allowed a deeper forecheck -- not a total 3-2 but certainly a 3.5-.5-2 situation. And that yielded decent results. But too many nights the team came out flat on Friday nights. This past weekend, they followed a dud-Friday with a dud-saturday.

KK looked good in the first part of the season, but faded badly down the stretch. And although I could not give a rat's fanny about the 3rd string goalie -- I do think Murdoch might have played as good, if not better, than KK at the end of the year.

Now is the silly season when everyone wants a new coach. I have always maintained that I will cheer for whatever coach is behind the Laker bench. Let the rumors fly. Perhaps a new face will be a good change behind the bench. I don't care, really, as long as the change is made for the right reasons and the right person is put in charge.

Its a bitter end to a fun season.

The last month of the season was quite a let-down after the promise of the first 3/4 of the year. I can accept the players running out of gas -- but the WMU games (and the NMU debacle two weeks prior) showed a team that was unprepared, going through the motions, and mailing-it-in. And that is disappointing.
 
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Lakerblue said:
\The last month of the season was quite a let-down after the promise of the first 3/4 of the year. I can accept the players running out of gas -- but the WMU games (and the NMU debacle two weeks prior) showed a team that was unprepared, going through the motions, and mailing-it-in. And that is disappointing.
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Do you think Notre Dame and Michigan State mailed it in?
 
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Laker Dude said:
Western did the same when they hired Blashill.

Even if a change was made at LSSU, they would not have the money to hire a proven coach. How much does Roque actually make? I would guess maybe 60,000 per year.
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Not only is the head coach's salary an issue, but assistant salaries. If the number around $81K is any where near correct, there are several assistants making that or more. There are also operational budgets...equipment, travel, recruiting, etc. LSSU has among the smallest budgets in D-I college hockey. I believe they are at the bottom of the CCHA. Any hope for long term improvement starts with $$$$, and it starts in the recruiting phase.
 
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DopeyBaker said:
Do you think Notre Dame and Michigan State mailed it in?
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Notre Dame was highly over-rated all year. Michigan State just sucked -- and Anastos proved he runs a hockey team as well as he ran the CCHA: Poorly.

The Lakers played a lack-luster game with no fire. Not sure how to paint that in a positive light. Its the playoffs, and they were run off the ice. I don't think we should be satisfied with sixth place and out. I don't know what happens in the locker room. I don't know if the guys had the flu. I don't know if there were nagging injuries. I can only comment on what I saw. And what I saw was a team soundly beaten in every aspect of the game. And my problem is this: I don't think Western is that much better than LSSU. Certainly WMU was not lighting the world on fire in the second half of the season. So therefore the problem must reside someplace. If they aren't sick, and they aren't injured, then what excuse can be given for being so totally outplayed by a similar program?
 
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