LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End

[WeWantMore]

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Doubt it. The one from last night was filled in completely.

Right, but how many years ago was that? It could have been dug again right?
Not likely though, I suppose.

 

[Bomber]

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Right, but how many years ago was that? It could have been dug again right?
Not likely though, I suppose.

Gotta be the same well and wheel. Sorry, but think how annoying it would be if there was another well, somewhere else with the same wheel. (Huh!?) Exactly.

And yes, it was horizontal later on, but it didn't look like it was in place yet.

 

[jmh]

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Why did I keep thinking she was Stockard Channing?

At one point, when I was listening but not looking, I thought it was Katey Sagal, but that wouldn't make much sense considering she already has a role on the show!

As for the man in black's name, the biblical parallel would be Esau, wouldn't it?

Esau held a grudge against Jacob because of the blessing his father had given him. He said to himself, "The days of mourning for my father are near; then I will kill my brother Jacob."

 

[jerphisch]

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I just don't get a whole episode dedicated to that, seems like such a waste almost at the end. Earlier in the season or even last season to make those flashbacks in a couple episodes would have been great, but all of it right at the end is dumb.

 

[moe24]

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As for the man in black's name, the biblical parallel would be Esau, wouldn't it?

That is, and has been, the assumed parallel. Though in the Bible Esau was born first, not Jacob.

 

[WeWantMore]

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That is, and has been, the assumed parallel. Though in the Bible Esau was born first, not Jacob.

Yeah, if it is a Jacob and Esau reference, I'm a little disappointed he didn't come out grasping the heel.

 

[Gibber]

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Gotta be the same well and wheel. Sorry, but think how annoying it would be if there was another well, somewhere else with the same wheel. (Huh!?) Exactly.

Bomber, before throwing him in, Flocke told Desmond there were wells like that all over the island where people had dug trying to find out what was up with the magnetism.

 

[Bomber]

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Bomber, before throwing him in, Flocke told Desmond there were wells like that all over the island where people had dug trying to find out what was up with the magnetism.

K, I forgot about that. Still, I want the well that Desmond is in to be the one with the wheel.

I started to read the Entertainment Weekly piece on The End. (Nice use of the Doors, by the way.) It's freaking Sunday night the 23rd. I have to go to my neices graduation dinner (Graduating from BC. I love her anyway.) Thank God for DVRs.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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K, I forgot about that. Still, I want the well that Desmond is in to be the one with the wheel.

I started to read the Entertainment Weekly piece on The End. (Nice use of the Doors, by the way.) It's freaking Sunday night the 23rd. I have to go to my neices graduation dinner (Graduating from BC. I love her anyway.) Thank God for DVRs.

No the well with the wheel in it is the one that Sawyer and Locke go to where Locke gets lowered down by the rope only to flash to a different time and have Sawyer standing there with a rope in the earth. I would assume one happens before "Mother" fills it in and the other after!

 

[alfablue]

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Finally got around to watching last night.

IMHO- the smoke monster is older than the pair- and that is how real mom was seen by MIB- I could be completely wrong about this- but it's a theory.

Based on the two of them playing the game, and MIB making up the rules of that game, and then telling Jacob that he can make up his own game later, I kind of expected that Jacob made a "game" where if MIB wins, he can leave, but he has to abide by many rules to be allowed to win. Which is why we have been seeing a lot of young Jacob running around the island.

(and a side note- since many of the losties can see young Jacob, does that mean there may be two versions of the smoke monster?)

On that game- if true... it's apparent that Jacob can leave the island to attract game players, but MIB can not. Goes along with the rules that you can't kill yourself, and Jacon+MIB can not kill the candidates. They can only kill each other by choice.

Timing is interesting- this appears to be fairly early, but the language would at least suggest not much earlier than roughly the 10th century, although the shipping technology would strongly suggest much later than that. Which still does not explain the Egyptian statues and references. We did not see that, nor did we see the temple, so we don't actually know when those were built.

But, I agree, the whole good/bad side of the story just got more mixed up.

They are going to need a major answer every 10min for the next 3.5 hours...

 

[moe24]

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Timing is interesting- this appears to be fairly early, but the language would at least suggest not much earlier than roughly the 10th century, although the shipping technology would strongly suggest much later than that. Which still does not explain the Egyptian statues and references. We did not see that, nor did we see the temple, so we don't actually know when those were built.

It has been confirmed that the episode began in AD27. With that in mind that gives Jacob plenty of time to "bring" people to the island who would have built things like the temple and the statue.

 

[rufus]

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I don't think Jacob's 'game' has the prize of the MIB leaving the island. I think his game is what we saw in the first(?) episode last season, that of bringing people to the island, and seeing if they can be moral and good, or whether they will succumb to the greed and evil that their mother, and the MIB, believe are inherent in them.

So far, the MIB is winning. Perhaps our group of Lostaways will prove different.

 

[alfablue]

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It has been confirmed that the episode began in AD27. With that in mind that gives Jacob plenty of time to "bring" people to the island who would have built things like the temple and the statue.

Even so, isn't that quite a bit after the Egyptian references?

Also, it forces the island to be, well, easy to get to at that time- which would be roughly the Mediterranian. Assuming that they keep boat technology in mind when they place time.... Then again, it could be off the African coast, too- since the Mr Ecko's brother's plane originated in Africa.

Not that it's that important, but one hopes they thought of that.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Even so, isn't that quite a bit after the Egyptian references?

Also, it forces the island to be, well, easy to get to at that time- which would be roughly the Mediterranian. Assuming that they keep boat technology in mind when they place time.... Then again, it could be off the African coast, too- since the Mr Ecko's brother's plane originated in Africa.

Not that it's that important, but one hopes they thought of that.

I was just thinking the same thing, if they have last episode taking place in 27AD, how did Jacob and MIB's mom and her people even have ships/boats to get to the middle of the Pacific? I'm guessing this is something that will never be explained.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I was just thinking the same thing, if they have last episode taking place in 27AD, how did Jacob and MIB's mom and her people even have ships/boats to get to the middle of the Pacific? I'm guessing this is something that will never be explained.

Even so, isn't that quite a bit after the Egyptian references?

Also, it forces the island to be, well, easy to get to at that time- which would be roughly the Mediterranian. Assuming that they keep boat technology in mind when they place time.... Then again, it could be off the African coast, too- since the Mr Ecko's brother's plane originated in Africa.

Not that it's that important, but one hopes they thought of that.

The island moves silly...I would assume that the island is in the Mediterranean during most of the its early history...probably in the east between Crete and Egypt.

The first time the wheel was turned probably took the island to the pacific...or for that matter, remember when Hawking was helping Ben at The Lamp Post to find the island so they could take the Ajira flight?

The pendulum was added later by a "very clever" individual who realized that in order to find the Island, it was not a question of where to locate it, but to determine where it was going to be at a given point in time.

 

[alfablue]

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I was just thinking the same thing, if they have last episode taking place in 27AD, how did Jacob and MIB's mom and her people even have ships/boats to get to the middle of the Pacific? I'm guessing this is something that will never be explained.

AND speak Latin (or derivations of that- the real mother was speaking Spanish, mom- latin, right?). And look incredibly European.
This is Club Med.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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AND speak Latin (or derivations of that- the real mother was speaking Spanish, mom- latin, right?). And look incredibly European.
This is Club Med.

Yep, I was thinking European also, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian. Something like that. I'm not good enough with languages to know what they were speaking. Did they make boobs that nice back in Jesus's day?

 

[WeWantMore]

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AND speak Latin (or derivations of that- the real mother was speaking Spanish, mom- latin, right?). And look incredibly European.
This is Club Med.

I usually watch LOST with the closed captioning on, and yep, it was Latin.

 

[Bomber]

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Just getting this to the first page.

Last Lost, in essence, tonight. (Because Sunday is LOSTAPALOOZA!)

I'm a bit sad, but excited. There is NO WAY we are going to feel satisfied with the conclusion. But get me 75% there, and I'm fine.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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When everyone else is dead, Jack will somehow have the rules explained to him as the new Jacob. He might be able to keep Hurley as his new Richard.

That's the only way we truly end up finidng some answers. You know that we'll never get an actual explaination from MiB/Smokey/fLocke.