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Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
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LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
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rufus
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Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
I don't think Ben ever had 'redemption'. He's just looking out for Ben, the way he always has. Although I can see why he'd want to have Flocke kill Widmore, since Widmore was responsible for his daughter's death. And like he said, Widmore doesn't get to save his daughter.
I thought the concert is gonna be Daniel's?
I don't think Ben ever had 'redemption'. He's just looking out for Ben, the way he always has. Although I can see why he'd want to have Flocke kill Widmore, since Widmore was responsible for his daughter's death. And like he said, Widmore doesn't get to save his daughter.
I thought the concert is gonna be Daniel's?
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
That's what I figure, maybe with guest judge Charlie. But I'm not so sure charlie needs to meet with anyone. He was "ready" first, then Desmond and the other daniel.
I guess I should not have been stunned to see Anna Lucia as the cop, but it was funny how Hurley reacted to her, and she had no idea who he was- and had a very Sawyeresk reply....
The one thing I'm afraid of, since this is turning out to be the exact opposite of the A-team, is that only one of the losties is going to survive. Which kind of sucks, but since the two with the most to loose are already dead (Jin and Sun), I guess it wil happen.
It's also curious about Jacob's reasoning behind the choices of names. James was alone- 100% correct. Jack- once his dad was gone, close enough. Kate- I suppose, but he got her so young. Jin and Sun, though??? They at least had each other at the time of the touch- it wasn't until later that they "separated". And Kate's name was crossed off since she was a "mom", but Jin/Sun didn't get crossed off for the same reason??? At least they were not pretending to be parents. Well- Sun at least.
Nice combination of baptism and communion, eh?
I'm trying to figure the timing of the alternate reality- Locke does go to Jack- but is the intention getting fixed (which I can't see since that will take a long time) or just wanting to get fixed?
Ben the a-hole in one end, now looks to be able to become Alex's dad by getting involved with Danielle. Hmmmm.
I don't get Ben- can't decide between redemption and being bad. What a revengeful SOB.
MIB/fLocke breaks rules by killing Richard. What are the repercussions?
(but I agree that without a body, Richard is probably still alive)
Miles.... where are you?
BTW, the lost marathon- 7-9 is reviews and interviews. The actual show is 9-11:30 (!
), and Kimmel live is midnight. May be late to work on Monday, I suppose.
That's what I figure, maybe with guest judge Charlie. But I'm not so sure charlie needs to meet with anyone. He was "ready" first, then Desmond and the other daniel.
I guess I should not have been stunned to see Anna Lucia as the cop, but it was funny how Hurley reacted to her, and she had no idea who he was- and had a very Sawyeresk reply....
The one thing I'm afraid of, since this is turning out to be the exact opposite of the A-team, is that only one of the losties is going to survive. Which kind of sucks, but since the two with the most to loose are already dead (Jin and Sun), I guess it wil happen.
It's also curious about Jacob's reasoning behind the choices of names. James was alone- 100% correct. Jack- once his dad was gone, close enough. Kate- I suppose, but he got her so young. Jin and Sun, though??? They at least had each other at the time of the touch- it wasn't until later that they "separated". And Kate's name was crossed off since she was a "mom", but Jin/Sun didn't get crossed off for the same reason??? At least they were not pretending to be parents. Well- Sun at least.
Nice combination of baptism and communion, eh?
I'm trying to figure the timing of the alternate reality- Locke does go to Jack- but is the intention getting fixed (which I can't see since that will take a long time) or just wanting to get fixed?
Ben the a-hole in one end, now looks to be able to become Alex's dad by getting involved with Danielle. Hmmmm.
I don't get Ben- can't decide between redemption and being bad. What a revengeful SOB.
MIB/fLocke breaks rules by killing Richard. What are the repercussions?
(but I agree that without a body, Richard is probably still alive)
Miles.... where are you?
BTW, the lost marathon- 7-9 is reviews and interviews. The actual show is 9-11:30 (!
), and Kimmel live is midnight. May be late to work on Monday, I suppose.WeWantMore
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Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Jacob granted him the ability to live forever though, does Flocke have the power to override that?
Jacob granted him the ability to live forever though, does Flocke have the power to override that?
M-HockeyNet
Does not drink Kool-Aid
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Wasn't it just Jin & Sun's last name that was written on the wall? I seem to recall some talk about who the name on the wall was referring to. If so, perhaps it wasn't crossed because while Sun was parenting, Jin was lost in time on the island and not being a father, so perhaps he was still a candidate.
Running very fast in the opposite direction?
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Jacob did make Richard immortal... but I suppose we don't know the limits of that.
In either case, I think we're all just hoping that that isn't the last we've seen of Richard. Because that's such a BS ending for a such a fantastic character.
Jacob did make Richard immortal... but I suppose we don't know the limits of that.
In either case, I think we're all just hoping that that isn't the last we've seen of Richard. Because that's such a BS ending for a such a fantastic character.
moe24
Original Lawson Lunatic
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Remember that Richard wanted Jack to kill him with that dynamite (assisted suicide style), but Jack couldn't kill himself because he was a candidate. Based on that one can assume that Richard simply couldn't die from natural causes or by his own hand, but he could be killed by another.
Remember that Richard wanted Jack to kill him with that dynamite (assisted suicide style), but Jack couldn't kill himself because he was a candidate. Based on that one can assume that Richard simply couldn't die from natural causes or by his own hand, but he could be killed by another.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Or, maybe it's their daughter?
Richard can't kill himself, but wasn't he looking for the Lostaways to kill him instead? But even if he is immortal, that's the question, did ol' Smokey really kill him.
Or, maybe it's their daughter?
Richard can't kill himself, but wasn't he looking for the Lostaways to kill him instead? But even if he is immortal, that's the question, did ol' Smokey really kill him.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
And there was a debate by Iliana on which one was the actual candidate. so both were important. We did see Jacob touch both of them at the wedding. Still, both, technically, were parents, and were not alone in the world.
It's also interesting how many of the Losties lives are WAAAAY different relative to when Jacob saw them pre-flight and "all alone in the world"- Jack WAS all alone after his dad died, and had tons of self doubt- NOW- was married, has a kid, and seems to be happy; Locke- was swindled by his dad who broke his back, and left alone by his love, now still loved while in the chair, caused his dad to be whatever, and is ready to move on; Ben- in a power struggle, murdered a lot of people, stole Alex, now nice respected teacher, more interested in other; Hurley- was "lukcy" lottery winner who's investments all ended in disaster, now LUCKY lottery winner who has good businesses; Sawyer- was grifter, now cop.
Etc etc.
Somehow, the bomb altered the past enough that unrelated people's lives were changed drastically, and therefore *probably* would not make good candidates for Jacob. Since we know Jack was watched by Jacob while he was a kid, did Jacob alter his life to get him? Still makes you think he's not all that hot either.
While wondering where Miles ran off to, where in the world is Claire? Wasn't she with fLocke on Hydra Island?
Oh, does anyone really think that fLocke really needs that plane, or just that he snuff out the light? fLocke isn't it's real form anyway, and I'm sure he would not want to survive in a form that's not his. It's almost as if turning the light out turns back time, and therefore resets all of life back to whatever AD, and hope that it finishes the same.
And there was a debate by Iliana on which one was the actual candidate. so both were important. We did see Jacob touch both of them at the wedding. Still, both, technically, were parents, and were not alone in the world.
It's also interesting how many of the Losties lives are WAAAAY different relative to when Jacob saw them pre-flight and "all alone in the world"- Jack WAS all alone after his dad died, and had tons of self doubt- NOW- was married, has a kid, and seems to be happy; Locke- was swindled by his dad who broke his back, and left alone by his love, now still loved while in the chair, caused his dad to be whatever, and is ready to move on; Ben- in a power struggle, murdered a lot of people, stole Alex, now nice respected teacher, more interested in other; Hurley- was "lukcy" lottery winner who's investments all ended in disaster, now LUCKY lottery winner who has good businesses; Sawyer- was grifter, now cop.
Etc etc.
Somehow, the bomb altered the past enough that unrelated people's lives were changed drastically, and therefore *probably* would not make good candidates for Jacob. Since we know Jack was watched by Jacob while he was a kid, did Jacob alter his life to get him? Still makes you think he's not all that hot either.
While wondering where Miles ran off to, where in the world is Claire? Wasn't she with fLocke on Hydra Island?
Oh, does anyone really think that fLocke really needs that plane, or just that he snuff out the light? fLocke isn't it's real form anyway, and I'm sure he would not want to survive in a form that's not his. It's almost as if turning the light out turns back time, and therefore resets all of life back to whatever AD, and hope that it finishes the same.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Something interesting to consider:
(and I have to honestly say, I didn't come up with this-the fans at the Washington Post)
Way back, can't remember the season, but the episode "The Shape of Things to Come"- there was an exchange between Whidmore and Ben:
"Did you come here to kill me, Benjamin?"
"We both know I can't do that."
Hmmmm. So maybe there are rules between them.
Maybe they can be broken, maybe not.
So lets assume that the rules CAN'T be broken. When we saw Ben shoot Charles- could that have been a set up??? fLocke surely didn't know Ben had a gun. Add one more thing- Miles wasn't there.... Add one other thing- Ben came out of the house quite a bit after Richard did...
Thoughts?
Something interesting to consider:
(and I have to honestly say, I didn't come up with this-the fans at the Washington Post)
Way back, can't remember the season, but the episode "The Shape of Things to Come"- there was an exchange between Whidmore and Ben:
"Did you come here to kill me, Benjamin?"
"We both know I can't do that."
Hmmmm. So maybe there are rules between them.
Maybe they can be broken, maybe not.
So lets assume that the rules CAN'T be broken. When we saw Ben shoot Charles- could that have been a set up??? fLocke surely didn't know Ben had a gun. Add one more thing- Miles wasn't there.... Add one other thing- Ben came out of the house quite a bit after Richard did...
Thoughts?
rufus
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Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Somehow that never registered with me last night.
Pretty huge plot hole if they don't explain it.
Somehow that never registered with me last night.
Pretty huge plot hole if they don't explain it.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Was there something specific to season 4 that would've made Ben not want to kill Whidmore at the time? That might explain it.
Also, this is Ben we're talking about here. Not the most trustworthy guy around. Something he said two minutes ago- to say nothing about two seasons ago- is probably not true anymore to begin with. If it ever was.
Was there something specific to season 4 that would've made Ben not want to kill Whidmore at the time? That might explain it.
Also, this is Ben we're talking about here. Not the most trustworthy guy around. Something he said two minutes ago- to say nothing about two seasons ago- is probably not true anymore to begin with. If it ever was.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
But two years ago, if he wanted to kill Widmore, and had a chance to, don't you think he would have? But he said to Widmore, who was certainly afraid that that was what Ben was there for, "You know I can't".
Like they both knew that there was something preventing each from killing the other. Just like Jacob and the MIB.
But two years ago, if he wanted to kill Widmore, and had a chance to, don't you think he would have? But he said to Widmore, who was certainly afraid that that was what Ben was there for, "You know I can't".
Like they both knew that there was something preventing each from killing the other. Just like Jacob and the MIB.
M-HockeyNet
Does not drink Kool-Aid
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
When Widmore's people first came to the island to kill everyone and they had Ben surrounded at the camp and threatened to kill Alex, he blew off the threat believing they wouldn't do it and then, to his shock, they did. Ben then said, "They changed the rules."
So it appears there are some rules between the two. However, what are these rules, and who can come up with them and decide when to change them, your guess is as good as mine.
When Widmore's people first came to the island to kill everyone and they had Ben surrounded at the camp and threatened to kill Alex, he blew off the threat believing they wouldn't do it and then, to his shock, they did. Ben then said, "They changed the rules."
So it appears there are some rules between the two. However, what are these rules, and who can come up with them and decide when to change them, your guess is as good as mine.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
But Ben's reaction to that, after moving the island, was to tell Whidmore that he was going after Penny. The quoted exchange above was after Alex was murdered.
That, and it wasn't Charles that killed Alex, but someone else, much like how Ben killed Jacob for fLocke.
It's almost as if they understand the time loops, and therefore if one of them kills each other, then the loop breaks, and that can't happen. Just a theory.
But Ben's reaction to that, after moving the island, was to tell Whidmore that he was going after Penny. The quoted exchange above was after Alex was murdered.
That, and it wasn't Charles that killed Alex, but someone else, much like how Ben killed Jacob for fLocke.
It's almost as if they understand the time loops, and therefore if one of them kills each other, then the loop breaks, and that can't happen. Just a theory.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
This is why I'm suddenly glad that I wasn't following the show a few seasons ago. The time travel stuff would've driven me nuts. I hate time travel storylines.
This is why I'm suddenly glad that I wasn't following the show a few seasons ago. The time travel stuff would've driven me nuts. I hate time travel storylines.
moe24
Original Lawson Lunatic
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
To be fair, it wasn't your typical time travel story line.
To be fair, it wasn't your typical time travel story line.