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LeBron: Discuss
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I remember when he won the NBA title with the Heat the same year the Blackhawks won the Cup and someone posted a side by side picture with quotes from the MVPs. LeBron's was all "I" "I" "I" and - I think it was Jonathan Toews - was all "the team" "we" etc. Remember that? Yesterday a friend retweeted a picture of LeBron with the trophy and said he hadn't seen one photo of any other Cavs players holding it. It's all about him. That said, he's OK. Could be much worse.
I remember when he won the NBA title with the Heat the same year the Blackhawks won the Cup and someone posted a side by side picture with quotes from the MVPs. LeBron's was all "I" "I" "I" and - I think it was Jonathan Toews - was all "the team" "we" etc. Remember that? Yesterday a friend retweeted a picture of LeBron with the trophy and said he hadn't seen one photo of any other Cavs players holding it. It's all about him. That said, he's OK. Could be much worse.
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No.
HOF career? No doubt. Not even a question. Top 5? No. Top 10? I might give a couple seconds' listen. Top 20? Maybe/probably.
No.
HOF career? No doubt. Not even a question. Top 5? No. Top 10? I might give a couple seconds' listen. Top 20? Maybe/probably.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Really, tell me who is in top 5.
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MJ, Bird, Magic, Chamberlain, Kareem, Oscar Robertson....oh wait, that's 6 already.
MJ, Bird, Magic, Chamberlain, Kareem, Oscar Robertson....oh wait, that's 6 already.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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www.basketball-reference.com/play-i...nsma02&p4=abdulka01&p5=jordami01&p6=bryanko01
I tossed in Kobe just for a modern comparison. Some of the rate stats are just staggering to see. Especially when you look at LeBron's stats in the playoffs. He absolutely elevates it to another level. He doesn't really fall out of the top three more than once or twice for playoff rate stats.
www.basketball-reference.com/play-i...nsma02&p4=abdulka01&p5=jordami01&p6=bryanko01
I tossed in Kobe just for a modern comparison. Some of the rate stats are just staggering to see. Especially when you look at LeBron's stats in the playoffs. He absolutely elevates it to another level. He doesn't really fall out of the top three more than once or twice for playoff rate stats.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
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Jerry west, Bill Russell. Lebron is bigger and stronger than all those guys(maybe not Wilt or Bill). The one thing lebron doesn't do as well is shoot outside.
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And sometimes, the best players never get there/win one (to cross sports, Jim Kelly and Dan Marino come to mind; and Ray Bourque only won one, after he was traded).
And sometimes, the best players never get there/win one (to cross sports, Jim Kelly and Dan Marino come to mind; and Ray Bourque only won one, after he was traded).
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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Yeah, that's a terrible argument. Maybe if we were talking about someone like Favre who made it to one when comparing to Marino or something like that.
But LeBron elevated his teams and brought them to the finals. Six years running now. Six years in a row.
Yeah, that's a terrible argument. Maybe if we were talking about someone like Favre who made it to one when comparing to Marino or something like that.
But LeBron elevated his teams and brought them to the finals. Six years running now. Six years in a row.
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When in Miami, I think he may have had a little help. Just saying......
I'm not saying LeBron is average. Hell no. He's insta-HOFer, but to say he's the greatest? No, not even close. And the "ring" argument that many bring up, or even the "Finals" argument....it's a silly argument.
When in Miami, I think he may have had a little help. Just saying......
I'm not saying LeBron is average. Hell no. He's insta-HOFer, but to say he's the greatest? No, not even close. And the "ring" argument that many bring up, or even the "Finals" argument....it's a silly argument.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Marcel Dionne, Adam Oates, Dale Hawerchuk, Mats Sundin, Mike Gartner, Pierre Turgeon, Gilbert Perreault, and Dino Ciccerelli. All in the Top 50 on the NHL career points list. All but Turgeon are in the HHoF. All had zero Cup wins
LeBron is already Top 10. He'll be absolute Top 5 material with a 4th championship.
Marcel Dionne, Adam Oates, Dale Hawerchuk, Mats Sundin, Mike Gartner, Pierre Turgeon, Gilbert Perreault, and Dino Ciccerelli. All in the Top 50 on the NHL career points list. All but Turgeon are in the HHoF. All had zero Cup wins
LeBron is already Top 10. He'll be absolute Top 5 material with a 4th championship.