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LeBron: Discuss

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cF[Authentic] said:
Such a great team player... he's opting out of the next year of his contract so he can re-sign another one year deal. That will get him $3 million more this coming year but will also put Cleveland in a tougher position trying to resign a supporting cast around him.
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I could care less what LaBron does, but I find it hard to have too much sympathy for ownership, fans, or teammates. He will only get paid what the market will bear, and he's why they won this thing. It's just business, and if the Cavs had lost 1-4 against GS and fans felt his heart wasn't in it, they would have turned on him in a heartbeat.
 
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LeBron gave 41M to send 1100 kids to college...I am sure though he still sucks ;)
 
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St. Clown said:
That just means superstars are dooshes, not that LJ isn't.
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And that is fine...but that isnt what Brent is saying I dont think. People act like most superstars are classy and polite and it just isnt true. Michael Jordan, arguably the best player ever, was about as gigantic a doosh as there is. Kevin Garnett, who everyone in this town praised like he was the re-incarnation of Kirby Puckett, was one of the biggest bleepholes around. Tiger Woods was/is a jerkoff on and off the course. The list of d-bags is a mile long and far outweighs the "classy" superstar.

LeBron is the best player in the game and has the championships (and near misses) to back it up. I would take him on my team in a heartbeat and anyone who says otherwise either is lying or knows nothing about basketball. "Class" is the argument the loser makes to justify why his team isnt good enough.
 
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Handyman said:
And that is fine...but that isnt what Brent is saying I dont think. People act like most superstars are classy and polite and it just isnt true. Michael Jordan, arguably the best player ever, was about as gigantic a doosh as there is. Kevin Garnett, who everyone in this town praised like he was the re-incarnation of Kirby Puckett, was one of the biggest bleepholes around. Tiger Woods was/is a jerkoff on and off the course. The list of d-bags is a mile long and far outweighs the "classy" superstar.

LeBron is the best player in the game and has the championships (and near misses) to back it up. I would take him on my team in a heartbeat and anyone who says otherwise either is lying or knows nothing about basketball. "Class" is the argument the loser makes to justify why his team isnt good enough.
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I'd take LeBron on my team, as far as an owner/coach/etc. Gotta win. Doesn't make him any less a doosh. And I'm not talking just trash-talking. Bird was apparently one of the biggest trash-talkers on earth. It's on how you carry yourself as a player. LeBron fails, IMO.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I'd take LeBron on my team, as far as an owner/coach/etc. Gotta win. Doesn't make him any less a doosh. And I'm not talking just trash-talking. Bird was apparently one of the biggest trash-talkers on earth. It's on how you carry yourself as a player. LeBron fails, IMO.
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Is that right? How so?

Second question...who in the league currently that is on a similar level doesnt "fail"?
 
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Handyman said:
Is that right? How so?

Second question...who in the league currently that is on a similar level doesnt "fail"?
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Off the top of my head, the whole "Decision" show when he went to Miami. That was a complete joke.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Off the top of my head, the whole "Decision" show when he went to Miami. That was a complete joke.
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How much money did he make off that crap. Its all marketing, you are p issed at a guy for trying to cash in? I think it was a joke also but what does that have to do with what he can do with a ball and a basket?
 
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Kepler said:
What is in the Charles that causes Boston writers to be such self-important cretinous windbags? Dan Shaughnessy, Bob Ryan, Will McDonough, Peter Gammons. Good Christ, in no other city on Earth have there been four prominent sportswriters all of whom deserved to be fed into a wood chipper before Mike Lupica.
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oh c'mon!!!

nothing beat grabbing a sunday glob back in the day and reading the full page columns by the commish, gammons, and especially will. mookie really misses him (and that isn't written often).
 
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IIRC, LeBron has expressed hindsight regrets about "The Decision". Doesn't excuse it, but at least he acknowledges it was an attention grab.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Off the top of my head, the whole "Decision" show when he went to Miami. That was a complete joke.
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So that, which happened off the court makes him a doosh of a player but all of the good stuff he has done, again off the court, doesnt offset it in your mind? You do realize that while that was televised it is no different than what most superstars do behind the scenes right?

So is your issue that he doesnt hide his ego then?
 
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he knows he is good. so what. it's not like lbj is a hog on the court feeding his ego. he goes out of his way to involve his teammates when he is out there. he passes up shots and passes to get them going. heck, people fault him for doing that crap.
 
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Handyman said:
So that, which happened off the court makes him a doosh of a player but all of the good stuff he has done, again off the court, doesnt offset it in your mind? You do realize that while that was televised it is no different than what most superstars do behind the scenes right?

So is your issue that he doesnt hide his ego then?
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The Decision was as a player. It may be off the court, but he was in a "player's" role. You're smarter than that. :p

I could also add the massive flops he performs during games, and yes, some other players do that too, and that's just embarrassing.

You may or may not think he's a doosh, and I do. *Shrug*

Edit: walrus: I never doubted his talent. I don't like his prima donna dooshy personality as a player.
 
Brenthoven said:
The Decision was as a player. It may be off the court, but he was in a "player's" role. You're smarter than that. :p

I could also add the massive flops he performs during games, and yes, some other players do that too, and that's just embarrassing.

You may or may not think he's a doosh, and I do. *Shrug*

Edit: walrus: I never doubted his talent. I don't like his prima donna dooshy personality as a player.
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He plays in the nba, they are prima donna dooshy players.
 
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Kepler said:
What is in the Charles that causes Boston writers to be such self-important cretinous windbags? Dan Shaughnessy, Bob Ryan, Will McDonough, Peter Gammons. Good Christ, in no other city on Earth have there been four prominent sportswriters all of whom deserved to be fed into a wood chipper before Mike Lupica.
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A great sports writer doesn't need to have ever been a great athlete or even know how to put on a jockstrap, but Lupica for me is the lone "omfg what a weasel pencild**k" exception to the rule.
 
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