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Laker Hockey 2009-10
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
Good to see this. We need the coach to get fired up at times and get his team fired up on the bench in the process. We've discussed on the forums in the past how we would love to see Roque with some fire & emotion instead of just kind of passively watching the game, as it sometimes appears.
Roque talked in the Laker hockey show as to what this was all about. Great to see him make his case with the officials and sort of calling out Markell in the process.
Sounds like they raised over 14 grand during the pink in the rink cancer fundraiser. Great job to all involved with putting on the promotion and to those who donated.
... One other thing about last night it was real nice to see Roque let markell and sergott know what he thought of them...
Good to see this. We need the coach to get fired up at times and get his team fired up on the bench in the process. We've discussed on the forums in the past how we would love to see Roque with some fire & emotion instead of just kind of passively watching the game, as it sometimes appears.
Roque talked in the Laker hockey show as to what this was all about. Great to see him make his case with the officials and sort of calling out Markell in the process.
Sounds like they raised over 14 grand during the pink in the rink cancer fundraiser. Great job to all involved with putting on the promotion and to those who donated.
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I was glad to read in the Soo Evening News that Roque felt his team could have tied Saturdays game in the third and that bad penalties and average goaltending will not win games for you against good teams. Roque also said they gave up 2 soft goals in the second that they shouldn"t have.
What was the beef about with Markell and the refs?
I was glad to read in the Soo Evening News that Roque felt his team could have tied Saturdays game in the third and that bad penalties and average goaltending will not win games for you against good teams. Roque also said they gave up 2 soft goals in the second that they shouldn"t have.
What was the beef about with Markell and the refs?
michiganmidge
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Is everyone getting excited for Michigan to come to town? Any thoughts?
Is everyone getting excited for Michigan to come to town? Any thoughts?
AnchorsAway
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Yea, i have a feeling attendance should be around 3,000 both nights..due to combo of:
- Michigan always draws well
- Halloween weekend and many of the students i have talked to plan on going to both games (some in costume including me and a group of friends...if you see a group of guys wearing Mighty Ducks T-shirt jerseys and would like to talk to yours truly, just find the guy in the Charlie Conway jersey...quack quack quack!)
- The Lakers hot start will draw in more of the people from the area, and it is keeping the new freshmen and transfer students coming...in years past they usually went to the first few home games and watched the Lakers lose and they stopped going....but the student section has been pretty full for all of the games so far.
I thought Ohio State would be a very good test for the Lakers last weekend and they passed in my book, winning friday and they probably would have won saturday had we not started Inglis...with that being said Michigan is a very big jump up in the level of competition....from a common sense standpoint it would be foolish to expect anything less than a Michigan sweep this weekend even with the Lakers hot start....so even if the Lakers can sneak out a single point then i'd to say this weekend would have to be considered a success
Is everyone getting excited for Michigan to come to town? Any thoughts?
Yea, i have a feeling attendance should be around 3,000 both nights..due to combo of:
- Michigan always draws well
- Halloween weekend and many of the students i have talked to plan on going to both games (some in costume including me and a group of friends...if you see a group of guys wearing Mighty Ducks T-shirt jerseys and would like to talk to yours truly, just find the guy in the Charlie Conway jersey...quack quack quack!)
- The Lakers hot start will draw in more of the people from the area, and it is keeping the new freshmen and transfer students coming...in years past they usually went to the first few home games and watched the Lakers lose and they stopped going....but the student section has been pretty full for all of the games so far.
I thought Ohio State would be a very good test for the Lakers last weekend and they passed in my book, winning friday and they probably would have won saturday had we not started Inglis...with that being said Michigan is a very big jump up in the level of competition....from a common sense standpoint it would be foolish to expect anything less than a Michigan sweep this weekend even with the Lakers hot start....so even if the Lakers can sneak out a single point then i'd to say this weekend would have to be considered a success
michiganmidge
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
I can't wait. I hate Michigan. Looking forward to the series.
I can't wait. I hate Michigan. Looking forward to the series.
LSSULaker889294
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
The whole E.U.P is getting hit hard by illnesses (flu, colds, etc) with schools being closed. I wonder if all that might result with lower than expected attendence this weekend? Let's hope everyone gets better!
I expect Michigan to come prepared. I'm surprised at their mediocre 2-2 start. Lakers need to be clicking on all cyclinders to beat Michigan even one game
The whole E.U.P is getting hit hard by illnesses (flu, colds, etc) with schools being closed. I wonder if all that might result with lower than expected attendence this weekend? Let's hope everyone gets better!
I expect Michigan to come prepared. I'm surprised at their mediocre 2-2 start. Lakers need to be clicking on all cyclinders to beat Michigan even one game
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Good point about the illnesses, but what is the typical attendance anyway?
Michigan has played 3 of their 4 games on the road, including a long trip to Alaska where a good UA team just played better. I suspect that UA will be a top tier CCHA team this season. The next night they blasted hometeam UA-Anchorage- a team that just split with North Dakota. Michigan was sluggish for the last 30 minutes of a narrow 3-2 win over Niagara a week ago, then dropped a tough, late, one goal loss to the defending NC, BU in Boston. Their record is somewhat skewed by their early season schedule. They are not as explosive as previous teams, mostly an up tempo grind it out kind of team.
Will they go to the Soo and play better? I can't say, considering that they have played mostly road games so far and haven't been able to establish a rhythm with their newcomers. The Lakers always play Michigan tight, and I suspect we'll see a couple of close games.
The whole E.U.P is getting hit hard by illnesses (flu, colds, etc) with schools being closed. I wonder if all that might result with lower than expected attendence this weekend? Let's hope everyone gets better!
I expect Michigan to come prepared. I'm surprised at their mediocre 2-2 start. Lakers need to be clicking on all cyclinders to beat Michigan even one game
Good point about the illnesses, but what is the typical attendance anyway?
Michigan has played 3 of their 4 games on the road, including a long trip to Alaska where a good UA team just played better. I suspect that UA will be a top tier CCHA team this season. The next night they blasted hometeam UA-Anchorage- a team that just split with North Dakota. Michigan was sluggish for the last 30 minutes of a narrow 3-2 win over Niagara a week ago, then dropped a tough, late, one goal loss to the defending NC, BU in Boston. Their record is somewhat skewed by their early season schedule. They are not as explosive as previous teams, mostly an up tempo grind it out kind of team.
Will they go to the Soo and play better? I can't say, considering that they have played mostly road games so far and haven't been able to establish a rhythm with their newcomers. The Lakers always play Michigan tight, and I suspect we'll see a couple of close games.
AnchorsAway
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I would guess that we have the streakiest attendance in the CCHA, there is a solid base of only about 1800 there for every game regardless of opponent, etc., and the attendance as whole depends on how the team has been playing, who is in town to face the Lakers, and if there is any special events going on in the Soo on a given weekend. We have drawn fairly well by our standards thus far this year...we had 26-2700 to see lowly Canisius but that was on "Great Lake State Weekend", our version of homecoming. Last weekend aginst OSU i believe we had 2500 on friday and just shy of 3,000 on Saturday. Even with the flu hitting this area hard, the combination of U-M coming to town(which along with MSU and NMU always draws more fans than any other CCHA team), the teams good start, and the Halloween weekend promotions the school is putting on for the games, i would be very surprised if there wasn't 32-3400 butts in the seats...depending on how the Lakers fare the rest of the season, this may very well ended up being our highest attendance weekend of the season.
Good point about the illnesses, but what is the typical attendance anyway?
Michigan has played 3 of their 4 games on the road, including a long trip to Alaska where a good UA team just played better. I suspect that UA will be a top tier CCHA team this season. The next night they blasted hometeam UA-Anchorage- a team that just split with North Dakota. Michigan was sluggish for the last 30 minutes of a narrow 3-2 win over Niagara a week ago, then dropped a tough, late, one goal loss to the defending NC, BU in Boston. Their record is somewhat skewed by their early season schedule. They are not as explosive as previous teams, mostly an up tempo grind it out kind of team.
Will they go to the Soo and play better? I can't say, considering that they have played mostly road games so far and haven't been able to establish a rhythm with their newcomers. The Lakers always play Michigan tight, and I suspect we'll see a couple of close games.
I would guess that we have the streakiest attendance in the CCHA, there is a solid base of only about 1800 there for every game regardless of opponent, etc., and the attendance as whole depends on how the team has been playing, who is in town to face the Lakers, and if there is any special events going on in the Soo on a given weekend. We have drawn fairly well by our standards thus far this year...we had 26-2700 to see lowly Canisius but that was on "Great Lake State Weekend", our version of homecoming. Last weekend aginst OSU i believe we had 2500 on friday and just shy of 3,000 on Saturday. Even with the flu hitting this area hard, the combination of U-M coming to town(which along with MSU and NMU always draws more fans than any other CCHA team), the teams good start, and the Halloween weekend promotions the school is putting on for the games, i would be very surprised if there wasn't 32-3400 butts in the seats...depending on how the Lakers fare the rest of the season, this may very well ended up being our highest attendance weekend of the season.
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A good crowd would be a plus this weekend and it would be really cool if people cheered and got into the games a little more. The student section has been better this year but still could use more students and everybody else needs to ramp up the noise a notch...thats just my take. Go Lakers!!
A good crowd would be a plus this weekend and it would be really cool if people cheered and got into the games a little more. The student section has been better this year but still could use more students and everybody else needs to ramp up the noise a notch...thats just my take. Go Lakers!!
Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
Not a good showing by the Lakers tonight. One end of the ice to the other, just not good. Shakey goaltending and nobody really stepped up for them in either zone.
There was a period of about 7-8 minutes during the 2nd period where they came out with some fire and hit anything in a blue jersey. They actually had Michigan playing to them and took charge of the game. Unfortunately that was short lived, they stopped hitting, and Michigan took control again and didn't relent.
Michigan looked good. Textbook Michigan offense like we've seen year after year. They cycled the puck, the players found open ice away from the play for the backdoor passes and they put up some real solid D on the back end tonight. Zero transition game for the Lakers tonight and their PP was back to being bad. I think they gave up more shots with the man advantage than they took at the opponents goal. Here's hoping the Lakers can get it together for tomorrow night.
Not a good showing by the Lakers tonight. One end of the ice to the other, just not good. Shakey goaltending and nobody really stepped up for them in either zone.
There was a period of about 7-8 minutes during the 2nd period where they came out with some fire and hit anything in a blue jersey. They actually had Michigan playing to them and took charge of the game. Unfortunately that was short lived, they stopped hitting, and Michigan took control again and didn't relent.
Michigan looked good. Textbook Michigan offense like we've seen year after year. They cycled the puck, the players found open ice away from the play for the backdoor passes and they put up some real solid D on the back end tonight. Zero transition game for the Lakers tonight and their PP was back to being bad. I think they gave up more shots with the man advantage than they took at the opponents goal. Here's hoping the Lakers can get it together for tomorrow night.
DopeyBaker
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With Michigan's speed, the Lakers could just not afford to get down 3-0 and hope to come back. Goals #2 and #3 were both off of big rebounds. If you throw away the first period, though, the shots on goal are 17 a piece and UM wins 2-1. I thought the guys worked hard, but were simply outmatched.
With Michigan's speed, the Lakers could just not afford to get down 3-0 and hope to come back. Goals #2 and #3 were both off of big rebounds. If you throw away the first period, though, the shots on goal are 17 a piece and UM wins 2-1. I thought the guys worked hard, but were simply outmatched.
michiganmidge
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And yes, Michigan was quick. Very quick and very skilled. I hope the Lakers come out tonight like they did in the 2nd period last night when they showed some fire. Three periods of that and maybe the Lakers can stay in the game.
I thought almost ALL of Michigan's goals came off big rebounds. At least 4 of them did. Beamer could have tried to cut down on the rebounds, but the Laker defense didn't step up to prevent the scoring opportunities.With Michigan's speed, the Lakers could just not afford to get down 3-0 and hope to come back. Goals #2 and #3 were both off of big rebounds.
And yes, Michigan was quick. Very quick and very skilled. I hope the Lakers come out tonight like they did in the 2nd period last night when they showed some fire. Three periods of that and maybe the Lakers can stay in the game.
LSSULaker889294
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Lakers played a better game tonight for sure. Too bad Mahoney-Wilson had a shaky game and it cost them. The second goal Beamer gave up was just awful. That might of been the game changer.
Looks like the cold/flu did play a factor in the attendence this weekend. So sad to see only 2600 and 2200 this weekend. We MUST get at least a split next weekend in Kalamazoo since Western is beatable. We can't afford to start 1-5 in league play.
Lakers played a better game tonight for sure. Too bad Mahoney-Wilson had a shaky game and it cost them. The second goal Beamer gave up was just awful. That might of been the game changer.
Looks like the cold/flu did play a factor in the attendence this weekend. So sad to see only 2600 and 2200 this weekend. We MUST get at least a split next weekend in Kalamazoo since Western is beatable. We can't afford to start 1-5 in league play.
Laker Hockey 2009-10
The Wolverines have a HUGE recruiting advantage over the Lakers and the rest of D1 hockey in that they have the USA Hockey Development Program right down the street in Ann Arbor, and it's proven to be a feeder program for them. They recruit players two year out by having them or their parents contact Mel or Billy to schedule an on campus visit. It's hardly possible for a program like the Lakers to compete against the talent they bing in annually.
The Lakers have had success against them only when we catch them napping and outwork and out hustle them. When that happens, especially if it's at Yost, it's something to be proud of!!!!!
The Wolverines have a HUGE recruiting advantage over the Lakers and the rest of D1 hockey in that they have the USA Hockey Development Program right down the street in Ann Arbor, and it's proven to be a feeder program for them. They recruit players two year out by having them or their parents contact Mel or Billy to schedule an on campus visit. It's hardly possible for a program like the Lakers to compete against the talent they bing in annually.
The Lakers have had success against them only when we catch them napping and outwork and out hustle them. When that happens, especially if it's at Yost, it's something to be proud of!!!!!
AnchorsAway
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
I was very proud of the Lakers for the way they came out yesterday and played hard, after getting spanked on Friday i was very interested to see how they responded and IMO they passed the test...Beamer gave up a softie on the second goal, but then later in the games he made 4 or 5 of the best saves that i have ever seen him make....i have a feeling he is really going to break out this year.
The one thing that really dissapointed me was the Lakers offensive strategy...Roque and the staff should realize that whoever is the starting goalie at U-M isn't going to have very many holes in his game, so there is only a limited amount of ways you're going to have a good chance to beat them....Hogan was giving up some pretty big rebounds both nights and the Lakers never tailored they strategy to send anouther guy in to crash the net.....very puzzling to me.
Had we gotten a bounce here or there or capitalized on a couple prime chances ( Nehring was one on one with Hogan twice and shot it right into his pads, without trying a single deke.) then we might have snuck out with a win, but for the most part you cannot really expect anything less than a sweep from a team like Michigan from our program...just yet. Rebounding to play hard on Saturday night after getting blown out Friday shows a step in the right direction for this program, one that wasn't there the last time U-M came to the Soo a couple years ago when they whooped us on friday and then saturday we layed down for them and got embarrassed again.
With all of this in mind i expect nothing less than 4 points from Western next weekend.
I was very proud of the Lakers for the way they came out yesterday and played hard, after getting spanked on Friday i was very interested to see how they responded and IMO they passed the test...Beamer gave up a softie on the second goal, but then later in the games he made 4 or 5 of the best saves that i have ever seen him make....i have a feeling he is really going to break out this year.
The one thing that really dissapointed me was the Lakers offensive strategy...Roque and the staff should realize that whoever is the starting goalie at U-M isn't going to have very many holes in his game, so there is only a limited amount of ways you're going to have a good chance to beat them....Hogan was giving up some pretty big rebounds both nights and the Lakers never tailored they strategy to send anouther guy in to crash the net.....very puzzling to me.
Had we gotten a bounce here or there or capitalized on a couple prime chances ( Nehring was one on one with Hogan twice and shot it right into his pads, without trying a single deke.) then we might have snuck out with a win, but for the most part you cannot really expect anything less than a sweep from a team like Michigan from our program...just yet. Rebounding to play hard on Saturday night after getting blown out Friday shows a step in the right direction for this program, one that wasn't there the last time U-M came to the Soo a couple years ago when they whooped us on friday and then saturday we layed down for them and got embarrassed again.
With all of this in mind i expect nothing less than 4 points from Western next weekend.
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Really? Michigan gets its fair share of talent, including USNDP players, but I wouldn't say they have the D1 market cornered. Both Minnesota and Wisconsin have gotten US developmental team blue chippers. The WCHA is talent rich from many sources, as is the HEA. USDPT proximity helps for visits, but these kids want the fastest track to the NHL. If it happens to be at Michigan, or MSU or the WCHA teams, then that is where they go. They visit those campuses as well, and play with other talents that discuss the best program for them. Twenty years ago this wasn't a discussion up for debate. LSSU got NHL quality talent, too-but, if I can guess- the Canadian kids that were being brought into LSSU are now choosing Major Junior or other routes. That has led to feeder programs based here in the US- and those kids are going to big name programs. The landscape of college hockey has changed, and unfortunately it has impacted the smaller schools more so than the traditional schools with a broader resource base. Don't single Michigan out in the CCHA... Miami, Notre Dame and MSU are all after these kids too.. and it is not the only market stream that these other larger successful programs have tapped... and don't rule out program stability, either. It's not the same at LSSU as these other schools. Red Berenson, Jeff Jackson, Comley, etc all have their connections well oiled- as you alluded to- but it also helps to be in a stable program for 25 years.
You have every reason to be proud of the Lakers. They played tough, but were out talented. When teams with talent play at the same or more intensity or work ethic as their less talented opponents, they usually win. That is how it sounded this weekend.
The Wolverines have a HUGE recruiting advantage over the Lakers and the rest of D1 hockey in that they have the USA Hockey Development Program right down the street in Ann Arbor, and it's proven to be a feeder program for them. They recruit players two year out by having them or their parents contact Mel or Billy to schedule an on campus visit. It's hardly possible for a program like the Lakers to compete against the talent they bing in annually.
The Lakers have had success against them only when we catch them napping and outwork and out hustle them. When that happens, especially if it's at Yost, it's something to be proud of!!!!!
Really? Michigan gets its fair share of talent, including USNDP players, but I wouldn't say they have the D1 market cornered. Both Minnesota and Wisconsin have gotten US developmental team blue chippers. The WCHA is talent rich from many sources, as is the HEA. USDPT proximity helps for visits, but these kids want the fastest track to the NHL. If it happens to be at Michigan, or MSU or the WCHA teams, then that is where they go. They visit those campuses as well, and play with other talents that discuss the best program for them. Twenty years ago this wasn't a discussion up for debate. LSSU got NHL quality talent, too-but, if I can guess- the Canadian kids that were being brought into LSSU are now choosing Major Junior or other routes. That has led to feeder programs based here in the US- and those kids are going to big name programs. The landscape of college hockey has changed, and unfortunately it has impacted the smaller schools more so than the traditional schools with a broader resource base. Don't single Michigan out in the CCHA... Miami, Notre Dame and MSU are all after these kids too.. and it is not the only market stream that these other larger successful programs have tapped... and don't rule out program stability, either. It's not the same at LSSU as these other schools. Red Berenson, Jeff Jackson, Comley, etc all have their connections well oiled- as you alluded to- but it also helps to be in a stable program for 25 years.
You have every reason to be proud of the Lakers. They played tough, but were out talented. When teams with talent play at the same or more intensity or work ethic as their less talented opponents, they usually win. That is how it sounded this weekend.
michiganmidge
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
I was impressed with the Lakers stepping up their game on Saturday. Michigan is a tough opponent any way you look at it.
I was puzzled too. It's difficult at best to score on a goalie like Hogan ... he's not going to miss much. Not capitalizing on rebounds was one thing ... the other was lack of generating traffic in front of the goal in an effort to sneak one in that way. Obvious shots at a good goalie are NEVER going to go in. It's frustrating to watch.The one thing that really dissapointed me was the Lakers offensive strategy...Roque and the staff should realize that whoever is the starting goalie at U-M isn't going to have very many holes in his game, so there is only a limited amount of ways you're going to have a good chance to beat them....Hogan was giving up some pretty big rebounds both nights and the Lakers never tailored they strategy to send anouther guy in to crash the net.....very puzzling to me.
I was impressed with the Lakers stepping up their game on Saturday. Michigan is a tough opponent any way you look at it.
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Streaker.......I didn't mean to imply that Michigan has the market cornered for ALL of D1, just that they have an advantage other programs don't have. That's only amplified by the fact that Billy Powers & Mel Pearson have been in place for years. I think most schools have "pipelines" that they recruit from year after year. They get to know programs, coaches, etc. and their is a mutual trust which aids in the recruiting process. For example, yeas ago when Brian McCloskey & Scott Borek were so sucessful in re-building Browns program, they heavily recruited from a few teams in Western Canada. You are aboslutely right that recruiting has become more difficult as student-athletes have more choices. That's what makes it so tough for a small, northern school to be successful, especially with the turnover Lake State has had in coaches over the recent past seasons.
Streaker.......I didn't mean to imply that Michigan has the market cornered for ALL of D1, just that they have an advantage other programs don't have. That's only amplified by the fact that Billy Powers & Mel Pearson have been in place for years. I think most schools have "pipelines" that they recruit from year after year. They get to know programs, coaches, etc. and their is a mutual trust which aids in the recruiting process. For example, yeas ago when Brian McCloskey & Scott Borek were so sucessful in re-building Browns program, they heavily recruited from a few teams in Western Canada. You are aboslutely right that recruiting has become more difficult as student-athletes have more choices. That's what makes it so tough for a small, northern school to be successful, especially with the turnover Lake State has had in coaches over the recent past seasons.
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