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Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton

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Relax, they are doing you a community service, preparing y'all for what life will be like once you enter HE.


edit: apparently hit a nerve...lol...karma is a *****

Does anyone even know what the hel l you are talking about?
 
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NDgolden said:
Too often the casual fan simply looks at stats and assumes things that simply are not the case.
I don't think IHF would qualify as a "casual" fan.

IMO, looking so closely at primary and secondary assists is a complete waste of time. The example IHF provided during the BC game is exactly why that doesn't really matter. I don't think anyone cares who scores, who gets the assists or who makes the hit to separate the opposition from the puck, as long as someone...anyone...on this team does just that.
 
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It's do or die time. ND can finish as high as 6th or as low as 9th. The good news is ND wins comparisons against LSSU, OSU and NMU should we tie in points with any of those teams. Coach Jackson said this team isn't done yet. I hope he's referring to a lengthy to-do list and not simply the guaranteed 4 games every team in the league has left. From 4th place to 9th place, all those teams will be fighting for their bye/home ice playoff lives. Notre Dame better be just as bellicose.

MSU comes here with 8 players in double digits in league play. Brett Perlini is a good one to focus on as he is a huge play maker for his linemates. Torey Krug leads the Spartans in PPG's and points. I assume Will Yanakeff will start both games as he gets the nod for the vast majority of league games. He's got a covetable save % of .927 with a GA of 2.4.

ND has 5 guys in double digits in the CCHA. Anders Lee and Riley Sheahan are the play makers of note, taking a ton of shots so those who follow up can catch a rebound. Or not. Whatever. T.J. Tynan and Lee lead the team in points and PPG's, respectively. I've been wondering about who's going to be in net...no, really, I have been wondering that. I want to see Steven Summerhays because I believe the team plays stronger in front of him. So that's what makes me think Mike Johnson will be in net Friday at the very least. Neither goalie has a terrible GA (Summerhays' GA is 2.78 in the CCHA. Johnson's is 2.51.), but each goalie's save % (a more telling stat) is south of 90%, so not worth mentioning. Another disheartening fact is Coach Jackson has pulled a goalie 6 times this season in favor of the back-up. Coach Anastos has not had to do that once.

MSU's and ND's PP are interchangeable. What I wouldn't give to exchange PK though. MSU's PK is deadly at 90.5% while Notre Dame's is just dead at 78.7%. Both teams have a decent GA and not that impressive of a GF, although MSU is closer to 3 G/game, while ND's is closer to just 2 G/game. MSU's 1st period is their most potent offensively and unfortunately that plays right into ND's MO as of late. If Notre Dame can, at the very least, maintain a tie with MSU going into either intermission, they stand a decent shot at a win. If MSU takes a lead into either intermission, ND fans may as well beat the traffic and get an early start home.

Several ND players have stated that they like playing the underdog role. This weekend, more than any other weekend all season, has them doing just that. The great athlete/actor who played Tarzan, Johnny Weissmuller said, "With but few exceptions, it is always the underdog who wins through sheer willpower."
 
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Can someone explain to me what "personal" problems existed during the 2009-2010 season that keeps getting alluded to here and elsewhere. I hear it mentioned but no one ever explains what actually happened, so i'm completely in the dark.

Here are some questions:

1. Who was the player who was kicked off the team?

2. Why did Brad Phillips, Kyle Palmeri, and Ian Cole (all blue chip players) all abruptly leave?

3. What did the players who left after that season say about the situation, what did the coach say?

I don't want to beat this over the head, but i'm just curious. I have heard things here and there, and when added with our terrible record that year, I just don't know how all the pieces fit together.
 
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Can someone explain to me what "personal" problems existed during the 2009-2010 season that keeps getting alluded to here and elsewhere. I hear it mentioned but no one ever explains what actually happened, so i'm completely in the dark.

Here are some questions:

1. Who was the player who was kicked off the team?

2. Why did Brad Phillips, Kyle Palmeri, and Ian Cole (all blue chip players) all abruptly leave?

3. What did the players who left after that season say about the situation, what did the coach say?

I don't want to beat this over the head, but i'm just curious. I have heard things here and there, and when added with our terrible record that year, I just don't know how all the pieces fit together.

I don't think you can fairly say that either Kyle Palmieri or Ian Cole abruptly left. Both had been drafted fairly high and simply chose to turn pro. Ian actually came back to ND that season after most were fairly certain he would have turned pro at the end of the previous season. For Brad, I think it came down to he had been injured outside hockey, and I suspect he felt that might make it even harder for him to get into the lineup. All the players and the coaches basically said the same thing, inordinate amount of injuries, lack of cohesiveness, inordinate amount of injuries. I think the injuries just kept piling up and piling up. There's no way around that amount of injuries, especially the amount to the defensive core, if memory serves, we had to move an offensive player into a defense position to be able to have 5 defensemen on the bench for a number of games.
 
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton

Can someone explain to me what "personal" problems existed during the 2009-2010 season that keeps getting alluded to here and elsewhere. I hear it mentioned but no one ever explains what actually happened, so i'm completely in the dark.

Here are some questions:

1. Who was the player who was kicked off the team?

2. Why did Brad Phillips, Kyle Palmeri, and Ian Cole (all blue chip players) all abruptly leave?

3. What did the players who left after that season say about the situation, what did the coach say?

I don't want to beat this over the head, but i'm just curious. I have heard things here and there, and when added with our terrible record that year, I just don't know how all the pieces fit together.

Injuries, personality and leadership all played a huge part in that season's failure to live up to expectations. Some people felt the wrong people were named captains. Others felt that nothing could have overcome the loss of so many key players for too many games. No single factor can be isolated, but IMO the lack of leadership and selfish play at too many times were certainly harder to watch than the injuries.

Ian Cole and Ted Ruth left in large part because both had suffered multiple concussions and felt it was in their best interest to pursue pro prospects immediately. Cole has played for the Blues last season and this, and has been a pretty productive player with their top farm club. Ruth hasn't had that success yet, and hasn't been too close to a call up to the NHL. I believe he has dealt a little with some other injury issues as well.

Palmieri was "encouraged" to pursue his pro opportunities following his freshman season. He was one of about a dozen ND players arrested that off season but unlike the others his was a bit more serious, as he was charged with assaulting the officer who arrested him for public intoxication. He drunkenly tussled with the officer and allegedly attempted to grab his taser gun. In my opinion he was one of the most selfish players I have ever seen at Notre Dame, and his on the ice attitude reflected that. Jackson even sat him the weekend following his return from the World Juniors, something he did not do with Johns or Tynan this season.

Philips was "asked" not to return as well. In fact his picture and profile were not even included among those of the rest of the departed players in last years media guide. Palmieri didn't even get that treatment. Tells you something about how burnt those bridges must have been.

None of the players have ever commented on the season to my knowledge at all. Why would some of them when they were likely the problem? Cole returned to South Bend and finished his education. I'm not sure about Ruth's academics. I believe both left in good standing with the team and the university, and I don't think either Ruth or Cole were part of the problems.

Jackson said fairly soon after the season ended that there was a sense of entitlement among a number of the players. He said quite a few were playing more for themselves than for the team. He insinuated that there was a lack of willingness to pay the price physically to compete. He even went so far as to set up boxing matches as a new part of their physical readiness training. And he made the well thought out move of naming Joe Lavin as the team's captain. A risky move on his part perhaps, following the off-season underage drinking arrests of nearly the entire incoming freshman class, arrests that took part in the house Lavin leased. But for a number of reasons Lavin was the proper choice, as he proved his leadership both during the summer and throughout the course of the season.

I guess we'll see what the real issues are this year (if any) once the season ends.
 
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Luckily (and I hope I did not ever state this), entitlement doesn't seem to be the issue this season. In fact, I think team chemistry has been described as too existent in the fact that it's been difficult to hold each other accountable for mistakes (how do you tell your best friend he f@#%ed up?). Complacency seems more to be the issue. The first half of the season came too easily. And then struggles started, unfortunately late in the season when panic can set in, and it's all new territory for the vast majority of the team. I keep thinking back to their good runs in the tourney and how they came on the heels of some offensive/game struggles and that gives me hope for this season still.

The bad news is the team likely has to go 7-1 in their (hopefully) next 8 games to make the tourney. That's a tall order, but given the wins and streaks (the good ones) this team has had, it's not impossible.

Often the seemingly impossible is simply the untried.
 
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Why was Brad Phillips asked not to return. I guess that's the one that causes the most confusion for me. He seems to be close with several of the players still, so that doesn't seem to have been the problem. I know he was a highly sought after goalie and it never really worked out for him here. But something must have happened for him to be asked NOT to return.
 
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Why was Brad Phillips asked not to return.

That's but one of the $64,000 questions every shell shocked Irish hockey fan was asking from basically the final horn in Grand Rapids in 2009 until we got a chance to see the 2010-2011 team in action. There was a lot of speculation about this and that, injuries, and scholarships, as well as Johnson had clearly supplanted him as the number one goalie. With Summerhays coming in there was a real chance he would have been a third string goalie who would have likely played little if at all. Quite the downfall for someone so highly recruited, and the team's presumed number one goalie at the start of that season.

In the end, none of the individual things that went wrong that season were all that uncommon. What was uncommon was all of them happening within the same season.
 
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Listen! Ya hear that? That's the sound of a 2000 pound monkey falling off the backs of the Irish team. There was so much good about tonight that I don't know where to begin...

So I'll start with #1, who was the #1 star of the game, who got his first shutout. Tonight was the game in net the team has been waiting for. Two absolutely killer saves and very solid play from Steven Summerhays the rest of the time made tonight's win possible. For those of you who didn't see that 2nd killer save, you missed a thing of acrobatic beauty.

#11 would be good thing #2. Now that's the way to return to healthy play. Jeff Costello (and Bryan Rust) had an emotional week, but the fact that Costello had the GWG and Rust was on the top line shows the commitment level that this team needs right now.

#15 from #20 is the #3 good event. Peter Schneider (with his 1st) from Kevin Nugent after a bad turnover (by the other team's goalie) epitomized the term "insurance goal."

100% and 25% are good things #4 and 5, respectively. 100% on the PK. 25% on the PP. Nuff said.

Zero in the first, the first and 5 x 5 would be good things #6A, 6B and 6C. It's been a few weeks since Notre Dame has not given up a goal in the first, scored the first goal in a game or scored an even strength goal. Good things follow when you start strong. It's easier to play your game when you don't have to claw back into the game. It's nice when special teams aren't the only offense.

I said we had to go 7-1 for a chance at the tourney. 6-1 is easier.
 
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Well we lost, again.

Can this please be the end of the Johnson experiment? Can Jeff Jackson finally let go of whatever issue he has with Summerhays and make him the number one goalie PERMANENTLY, if only for the betterment of the team?

I don't know why he gives Johnson so much more slack than Summerhays. Maybe today was Jackson just giving Johnson one final shot to prove himself. I don't know. But I do know that tonight, in the second period, Johnson faced 3 shots and let in two goals. After all, Jackson pulled Summerhays against Ferris after he allowed two goals on five shots. Four minutes, that was all the slack Summerhays was allowed to prove himself that night. I do know the team looked real good and confident until Johnson let in those two goals. I know this has become kind of a broken record this year.

I think several of our losses can be directly attributed to Jackson gambling on Johnson. Instead of developing Summerhays he doubles down on Johnson. Hopefully that's over now. Hopefully Jackson has finally seen what everyone already sees.
 
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Will someone do me a huge favor? Drive to Jeff Jackson's house. Pick his front door lock. Go to his medicine cabinet. And remove all the quaaludes that he has stuffed in there. Then hang out in his living room and when he comes home tonight, grab him by the lapels and ask him ever so gently, "What the frick are you thinking?!" At least I hope he's on ludes because if he isn't and he actually believes Mike Johnson was a better game time decision than Steven Summerhays, I am as of this moment questioning his coaching ability.

As soon as I saw Summerhays throw his helmet and stick when he came off the ice towards the end of warm-ups because Johnson got the nod, I knew we were not going to win this game. 4 goals on 19 shots. That's a save % of 78.9%. If you're new to the game of hockey, that sucks. Big time. In the 2nd period alone, he gave up 2 goals (another in the last minute) on 3 shots. To give up the lead. After ND had virtually dominated those first 2 periods. After Anders Lee finally...FINALLY, gets the monkey carrying the piano off his back. After T.J. Tynan scored a hard-working shortie. Do you realize that the post behind MSU's Will Yanakeff made more saves than Mike Johnson did in the 2nd?

6th place and Bowling Green were ours for the taking. Now we get 8th place and Ohio State. I shudder to think what Jackson will decide about who should start next weekend.
 
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Wow. I was on the Mike Johnson train for longer than most I believe, but wow. Just wow. Jackson has certainly not handled the goaltending situation very well this year, but tonight was an absolute head scratcher. This loss is on him. I cannot imagine that locker room has a whole lot of confidence in Jackson right now. I wonder if the paying customers have any at all.
 
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As soon as I saw Summerhays throw his helmet and stick when he came off the ice towards the end of warm-ups because Johnson got the nod, I knew we were not going to win this game.

Did Summerhays throw his helmet and stick in anger? Jeez. What the hell is wrong with Jackson? Isn't it obvious that he just dislikes Summerhays? Isn't it obvious this is entirely personal? At first, I thought it was because he liked Mike Johnson. Like Jackson, Johnson was a goaltender who didn't have a father around and JJ probably related to him on that level. Jackson mentioned that in an interview around the Frozen Four last year. Now I think it's because he simply dislikes Summerhays.

Grow up JJ. So the kid yelled at you in November. He's young and cocky. He's filled with raw energy and talent. He just needs someone to guide him, to show him the right way. Why not spend time with him and direct that raw energy and talent? Why not turn him into a great goalie? Why not spend as much time with him as you did Johnson last year? Why not give him as much slack as you do Johnson? Start him back to back, give him his due. That's why he's lashing out at you JJ. IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING FAVORITES!

In my opinion, this goaltending situation is what caused this years collapse.

This is the reason I asked about Brad Phillips the other day. I looked up Phillips and it turns out he's actually playing very well and hasn't ever really played that poorly, statistics wise. So I wondered why things didn't work out for him here. I'm wondering if Jackson wasn't the real problem there as well. I'm wondering if there wasn't a similar situation then.
 
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As soon as I saw Summerhays throw his helmet and stick when he came off the ice towards the end of warm-ups because Johnson got the nod, I knew we were not going to win this game.

Did Summerhays throw his helmet and stick in anger? Jeez. What the hell is wrong with Jackson? Isn't it obvious that he just dislikes Summerhays? Isn't it obvious this is entirely personal? At first, I thought it was because he liked Mike Johnson. Like Jackson, Johnson was a goaltender who didn't have a father around and JJ probably related to him on that level. Jackson mentioned that in an interview around the Frozen Four last year. Now I think it's because he simply dislikes Summerhays.

Grow up JJ. So the kid yelled at you in November. He's young and cocky. He's filled with raw energy and talent. He just needs someone to guide him, to show him the right way. Why not spend time with him and direct that raw energy and talent? Why not turn him into a great goalie? Why not spend as much time with him as you did Johnson last year? Why not give him as much slack as you do Johnson? Start him back to back, give him his due. That's why he's lashing out at you JJ. IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING FAVORITES!

In my opinion, this goaltending situation is what caused this years collapse.

This is the reason I asked about Brad Phillips the other day. I looked up Phillips and it turns out he's actually playing very well and hasn't ever really played that poorly, statistics wise. So I wondered why things didn't work out for him here. I'm wondering if Jackson wasn't the real problem there as well. I'm wondering if there wasn't a similar situation then.
 
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I am coming from toledo for the series next weekend and need some help from you irish fans. Is it going to be hard to get tickets? and How is parking? Thanks in advance for your help
 
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I am coming from toledo for the series next weekend and need some help from you irish fans. Is it going to be hard to get tickets? and How is parking? Thanks in advance for your help

You could probably have Steven Summerhays spot on the bench. He doesn't seem to have any reason left to show up to the arena apparently. I mean if pitching NDs first shutout in two years and playing great hockey in a must win situation doesn't get him the start tonight, why even put on the uniform? You would have to do door duty, but that can't be too hard since Jackson seems to have enough faith in Summerhays to let him do that at least. And if Toledo has a village idiot to spare, could you bring him along too? We seem to be in need of a coaching upgrade, and Dave Poulin isn't currently available.

As for tickets, the students are not on break next week, and ND has sold out 7 games in a row, so who knows. People like to watch the cars crash in NASCAR too, so I get the interest. My best advice is look for info at the Notre Dame sports site, UND.com, as far as ticket availability. Parking is not an issue unless there is a basketball game, but since we pooped the bed so thoroughly as to have to play a first round series, we WILL be sharing the parking lot with Notre Dame basketball fans as the men play Providence at the same time Friday. Then again, maybe you can just have my ticket and I'll go enjoy the basketball game. I'd like to see how well a coach with middle of the pack talent playing in middle of the pack facilities does it. I'm tired of watching top of the conference talent playing in the top of the conference building suffer because the head coach HASN'T GOT A GODDAM CLUE WHEN IT COMES TO PICKING THE RIGHT GOALIE!
 
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