Why is UNH not scheduled for any games this weekend?
edit: ok, now I see; UNH has played the most games at 21. But, UNH never got to play either BU or UVM this season.
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Hockey East 2020-2021
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Why is UNH not scheduled for any games this weekend?
edit: ok, now I see; UNH has played the most games at 21. But, UNH never got to play either BU or UVM this season.
The Hockey East Association announced today the following schedule update:
Upcoming Schedule:
Tuesday, February 23
Massachusetts at Providence (Men) – 7:00 p.m.
Thursday, February 25
Women’s Opening Round
#9 Holy Cross at #8 New Hampshire – 7:00 p.m.
Friday, February 26
Merrimack at Boston University (Men) – 4:00 p.m.
Maine at UConn (Men) – 4:00 p.m.
UMass Lowell at Vermont (Men) – 7:00 p.m.
Massachusetts at Boston College (Men) – 7:00 p.m. (NESN+)
Saturday, February 27
Boston University at Merrimack (Men) – 4:00 p.m.
Maine at UConn (Men) – 4:00 p.m.
Providence at Northeastern (Men) - 4:30 p.m. (NESN)
UMass Lowell at Vermont (Men) – 7:00 p.m.
Sunday, February 28
Women’s Quarterfinals
#6 Boston University at #3 Providence – 1:00 p.m.
#5 Maine at #4 Vermont – 2:00 p.m.
#7 UConn at #2 Boston College - 4:30 p.m. (NESN)
TBD at #1 Northeastern – 7:00 p.m. (NESN)
Northeastern at Providence (Men) – 7:00 p.m.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
C'mon, Maine is a powerhouse.
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Thought I read there will be no RS HE Champion this season?
"At the conclusion of the regular season, the team with the highest Hockey East Power Index will be declared the 2020-21 Regular Season Champion and awarded the regular season trophy."
I'm really interested in the mathematics behind HEPI. I don't have much data though. I took screenshots before and after today's UMass-PC game. I was wondering if it was a 0 sum game, as in if someone gains 0.3 HEPI, does that mean that some combination of teams lose 0.3 HEPI? I don't think it is. Unless they're rounding after each step (which is possible I suppose), the fluctuation from these three data points appears to be more than would be possible with rounding error.
UMass was the only team that gained anything from the win tonight (0.68 points). UML and UConn stayed the same. The other teams all lost points tonight. PC was the biggest loser at 0.83 points. The next biggest loser was Maine at 0.12 points. The other teams lost somewhere between 0.02 and 0.06 points. The sum of the absolute values of point differences is 1.86. I don't know if that's typical for a game or on the low end or the high end. Just figured I'd start a conversation if anyone else was interested in trying to figure out what is happening.
It's interesting to me that in this instance a loss at home penalized a team more than the reward for a win on the road. Maybe Maine is higher than UNH because they have no home losses? It's also interesting to me that this negatively impacted BC (-0.03) even though they are 2-0 against both teams. Would they have been negatively impacted regardless of the result? BU is 2-0 against UMass and 1-1 with a home loss against PC. They fell 0.06 points. Is that because their home loss to PC now has more of a negative impact which is not counteracted enough by a more positive impact the sweep of UMass should have?
UMass was the only team that gained anything from the win tonight (0.68 points). UML and UConn stayed the same. The other teams all lost points tonight. PC was the biggest loser at 0.83 points. The next biggest loser was Maine at 0.12 points. The other teams lost somewhere between 0.02 and 0.06 points. The sum of the absolute values of point differences is 1.86. I don't know if that's typical for a game or on the low end or the high end. Just figured I'd start a conversation if anyone else was interested in trying to figure out what is happening.
It's interesting to me that in this instance a loss at home penalized a team more than the reward for a win on the road. Maybe Maine is higher than UNH because they have no home losses? It's also interesting to me that this negatively impacted BC (-0.03) even though they are 2-0 against both teams. Would they have been negatively impacted regardless of the result? BU is 2-0 against UMass and 1-1 with a home loss against PC. They fell 0.06 points. Is that because their home loss to PC now has more of a negative impact which is not counteracted enough by a more positive impact the sweep of UMass should have?
Nobody really knows. While they aren't naming a RS champ, #1 seed still gets home ice in playoffs. So it's definitely something you want. There should still be games next weekend too so this is still TBD. I think there's a decent drop off between Lowell and Merrimack. After this UMass game, BC will have played 14 of 20 against top 7. BU will have played 7 of 13. Against top 4, BC 9 of 20. BU 5 of 13. I suppose that type of breakdown and the games played disparity could be "controversial" but it is what it is. York himself endorsed HEPI. All that really matters is BC is in position for the NCAA tournament. How much does home ice matter without fans? I have no idea. I actually have a bigger issue with single elimination QF round than HEPI.
Apparently that has been shot down by ADs in the league. That is according to Jim Connelly of USCHO. I have no idea why ADs would care about this issue but that's where we are.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Maine and UVM should flip, most likely.
I would never have imagined that Maine hockey would have sunk this low if I hadn't witnessed Red's first two games. It was very clear during that weekend at lowly St. Lawrence that Red hadn't a clue, even when he still had some genuine Timmy-talent on board.
We drove home dreading exactly what we've been seeing ever since, and we haven't regretted missing a trip to Boston for (what) 8 years now.
Why God why has his utter ineptitude been rewarded with the renewals? That fact truly defies any sort of logic.
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I don’t think attendance changes the QF home ice much TBH. With the exception of a team hosting for the first time in a long time, they’re usually pretty dead as they usually correspond with spring break.
I think home ice advantage this year is a little bit having the last change but mostly the ice size difference. I’d rather UMass play MC at Mullins than play them at Lawler. If everyone in the conference had the same size rink, I’d agree home ice was pretty meaningless but the rink dimension is a factor IMO.
I think home ice advantage this year is a little bit having the last change but mostly the ice size difference. I’d rather UMass play MC at Mullins than play them at Lawler. If everyone in the conference had the same size rink, I’d agree home ice was pretty meaningless but the rink dimension is a factor IMO.
This is makes me realize a possible reason they aren’t releasing the formula. They don’t want us complaining about SOS. If we had the formula and realized one team got home ice and a bye and the other was playing in the first round based on SOS factor, fans would be livid, especially because SOS is out of everyone’s control. NU fans on Twitter were pointing out they had very low SOS. Off the top of my head, they had a game vs UMass cancelled when UMass shut down which could have helped their SOS and the fact the game didn’t happen was out of their control. If we figured out something like that cost someone home ice or a bye, and I’m beginning to see why the conference wouldn’t want to deal with that headache.
That being said, they should still release the formula.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
I never would have imagined UMaine hockey would have fallen so low that the Whitehead era would be looked back at in even the slightest degree of reverence. But there you have it ...
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Winging it.
Split-N
All Hail
Of course they're winging it. It's even worse in some of the college basketball leagues (NBA too). Longstanding scheduling protocols are out the window, at least for this year, so I'm not going to criticize the league office or anyone else under the circumstances. Just happy to get any kind of season in.
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