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Hockey East 2020-2021

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The Zlax45 said:
Massachusetts just cut elective procedures at the hospitals. The "experts" must know something about the numbers than him.
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I see USCHO's own Florence Nightingale has surfaced again to spread holiday hockey cheer.

FWIW the "experts" also set up field hospitals and floating hospitals in New York, LA and Seattle (and I'm sure elsewhere) this past Spring, and basically none of them got utilized because the projections of use were so far off target. If they want to say it was out of an overabundance of caution, I get that. We'll see if they are put to more use this time around. Ditto whether a moratorium on elective procedures is appropriate. Guess it depends on what "elective" means ...

J.D. - yes, 100% it's a free-for-all. But Commish Press Release says it's "building momentum".

He's the expert, so we must trust him and his experience, and not question him in any way ...
 
J.D. said:
Taking this back towards hockey, BU paused everything after one positive test. While it appears Merrimack played this weekend while being severely shorthanded due to COVID protocol. Are there any known "rules" in regard to when a game gets postponed? Just going off these two scenarios would lead you to believe it's entirely up to the individual schools on how they want to proceed. And to that I would say, that's not a "plan to play" as I first thought the league had. That's a free for all.
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Been saying it since Day 1 that there was no set plan this year! Really a bad look from the son of Scarano
 
I think only the NCHC has a standard that’s been announced. Hockey East is all over the map. Northeastern’s men’s program shut down cause other programs had positives. Other schools (MC men and BC women off the top of my head) played without players due to testing protocols.

When the NCHC formed I thought that was gonna be a joke. Bunch of no name schools who were losing all their name brand conference mates trying to salvage whatever they could. Boy was I wrong. They’re the SEC of college hockey and there’s no close second.
 
jjmc85 said:
I think only the NCHC has a standard that’s been announced. Hockey East is all over the map. Northeastern’s men’s program shut down cause other programs had positives. Other schools (MC men and BC women off the top of my head) played without players due to testing protocols.

When the NCHC formed I thought that was gonna be a joke. Bunch of no name schools who were losing all their name brand conference mates trying to salvage whatever they could. Boy was I wrong. They’re the SEC of college hockey and there’s no close second.
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So true!
 
Hang in there Zlax, I was traveling most of the day yesterday and then had to go get my tree after I got home. Then today I’ve been busy with more important things than responding to Chuck and Jeb’s juvenile theories and comments BUT, if not today I’ll definitely respond sometime tomorrow.
 
J.D. said:
Oh goodie, all of us are thrilled by that
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Vegas says it's 15:1 he gets through his mega-screed without invoking "experts", and 25:1 he engages meaningfully with any of the data Jeb continually hammers him over the head with.

I've seen this movie a few more times than you folks have. Reruns suck, but it's what we'll get.
 
jjmc85 said:
I think only the NCHC has a standard that’s been announced. Hockey East is all over the map. Northeastern’s men’s program shut down cause other programs had positives. Other schools (MC men and BC women off the top of my head) played without players due to testing protocols.

When the NCHC formed I thought that was gonna be a joke. Bunch of no name schools who were losing all their name brand conference mates trying to salvage whatever they could. Boy was I wrong. They’re the SEC of college hockey and there’s no close second.
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Agreed. And, the NCHC going with their bubble in Omaha, perhaps after seeing the NBA and NHL successfully complete their 2019-2020 seasons in bubbles?
 
Snively65 said:
Agreed. And, the NCHC going with their bubble in Omaha, perhaps after seeing the NBA and NHL successfully complete their 2019-2020 seasons in bubbles?
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Playing devils advocate, if they are all truly in a bubble in Omaha, are they really student athletes? Are all those schools doing only fully remote classes anyway?
 
Chuck Murray said:
None of this warrants the extreme reactions, nor the "precautions" being taken (or in worst-case scenarios, imposed on us). Should there be some level of concern and awareness? Absolutely. Have the measures put in place previously (and again in some instances now) demonstrably accomplished anything? Other than delaying the impact ... apparently not really.
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If nothing else, these measures that were put in place actually very possibly are what prevented the need for utilizing the field hospitals which you scoffed at here:


Chuck Murray said:
FWIW the "experts" also set up field hospitals and floating hospitals in New York, LA and Seattle (and I'm sure elsewhere) this past Spring, and basically none of them got utilized because the projections of use were so far off target. If they want to say it was out of an overabundance of caution, I get that. We'll see if they are put to more use this time around. Ditto whether a moratorium on elective procedures is appropriate. Guess it depends on what "elective" means ...
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ericredaxe said:
If nothing else, these measures that were put in place actually very possibly are what prevented the need for utilizing the field hospitals which you scoffed at here:
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No.

It doesn't matter if there have been bat sh*t crazy amount of measures, California or very few measures the virus is behaving the same where ever it goes regardless of bureaucratic mandates.

The virus doesn't care, it is a virus.
 
Jeb2020 said:
Or a college football player that already had a heart complication. Would bet a lot that is the case here.
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This is a player that had COVID and now has the same heart condition that kept Eduardo Rodriguez out for the year.

So take that for what it is but kinda of odd that he has the SAME heart condition that several athletes have had since this disease become known from lacrosse, baseball, football, basketball, and more.
 
Jeb2020 said:
No.

It doesn't matter if there have been bat sh*t crazy amount of measures, California or very few measures the virus is behaving the same where ever it goes regardless of bureaucratic mandates.

The virus doesn't care, it is a virus.
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The virus behaves like a virus. Less interaction = less opportunity for the virus to spread.
 
net presence said:
Wait a minue, Chuck, Jeb, and J.D. told me that other than a bunch of old people dying, there wasn't anything else to be concerned about. Especially if you were a young high school or college athlete in the prime of their physical lives...(rolls eyes)
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Actually no, I never once said that. All I did was post a study indicating myocarditis isn't as common as they first thought. But you just keep lying to further your agenda.

Jeb did indicate that it's possible a case of myocarditis simply went undetected and was not caused by COVID but you can take it up with him if you disagree.

Eduardo Rodriguez of the Boston Red Sox is now good to go after being diagnosed with myocarditis. My guess would be this football player will be just fine. I never denied myocarditis existed.
 
net presence said:
Wait a minue, Chuck, Jeb, and J.D. told me that other than a bunch of old people dying, there wasn't anything else to be concerned about. Especially if you were a young high school or college athlete in the prime of their physical lives...(rolls eyes)
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So here's the thing ... I've got a splitting headache today, I'm pretty sure some of the other folks on here might have one too, and it just so happens that some of us read your silly comments on this thread today. So you are the cause of my headache, which at my age could be shielding the early signs of stroke. Out of an overabundance of caution, just so it doesn't become a pandemic or epidemic or whatever nasty term we can tag on this very scary development ... would you just do the right thing, take one for the team, self-isolate and quarantine yourself from posting for the next few weeks?

It'd be a shame if USCHO had to lock down the entire forum due to your selfish conduct.

On a serious note ... are you saying that a small handful of cases of myocarditis among tens of thousands of NCAA athletes is in any way comparable to the situation (some would say "epidemic") of NCAA athletes with concussions/head injuries, which have even more significant/extensive adverse outcomes than those who suffer from myocarditis (regardless of causation)?

We haven't shut down college sports from concussions (yet) ...
 
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