Hobey

[CHATJ]

Re: Hobey

That sounds about right, can't remember the exact split, but I do remember an even 100 points for the season.

Totals I found probably included the playoffs! because I found them on Wiki and they included Maine's record that year with the Playoffs


Also INCH just came out with their Hobey Tracker,
CHEVERIE, Smith, ATKINSON, Scrivens, and Petry

 

[True Blue Fan]

Re: Hobey

Totals I found probably included the playoffs! because I found them on Wiki and they included Maine's record that year with the Playoffs

No they are probably just incorrect. Stats are kept for the season for college hockey, including playoff games. The 100 points includes the playoffs etc.

 

[lord k]

Re: Hobey

Kariya dominated College Hockey as a freshman. It was probably the greatest season achievement I've ever seen in my 30+ years of watching the sport.

Tony Hrkac, 46 goals, 70 assists for a record 116 points and Bob Joyce scoring 52 goals in the same season are pretty unbelievable. They were not freshmen though. 52 goals in one season is a crazy number. Chris Vandavelde for UND just hit the 50 goal mark for his career and he is a senior. Now if a player has 50 points it is an amazing season.

My vote for Hobey this year would be for Chevy. He is completely amazing. He stays so calm and there is never anywhere for the puck to go in the net.

 

[gscott13]

Re: Hobey

33 goals, 91 assists, 124 points in 51 games, helping the University of Maine to a 42–1–2 record

Are you talking about this season! Great Stats!

Is this right though? because the NCAA record book has this as the single season record for assist!

76—Wayne Gagne, Western Mich., 1987



Correction!!!! Maine says he only had 75 assist that year! Don't know why Wiki and another site said 91

the 33-91-124 are career numbers... his freshman year was 25-75-100 in 45 games. he went 8-16-24 in 12 games as a sophomore before leaving for a 31 game stint with the canadian national team... after international duty, he signed with anaheim rather than return to maine for his junior year

 

[SJHovey]

Re: Hobey

Was Kayaria the only freshman to win, let alone make the top 10? I can't remember if there has been another freshman that has made the top 10!!

I think a number of freshmen have made the final 10, but I'm too lazy to go look. I know Zach Parise made it as both a freshman and sophomore, before turning pro.

 

[Puck Swami]

Re: Hobey

Hrkac was a great player that piled up big points in an era where defensive systems were not what they are now, and the 7-6 and 6-5 scores were common in college hockey. If a goalie had a .900 - 910 saves percentage in that era, he was all American material. Today, the same goalie would be average. When you watch tapes from that era, the lack of defensive systems is obvious.

Kariya's achievement is more spectacular because 1) he was a freshman and b) by the early 90s, defensive systems, specialized goaltending coaching (and the increasing use of the butterfly style) and satellite dishes were starting to create much more advanced game preparation, and scoring was already dropping by then.

 

[ck1969]

Re: Hobey

I'm not arguing that he doesn't deserve to win (I don't know, I haven't seen him). I'm arguing that he won't win.

As for your Wilson comparison, I'm a little mystified that he won. I think it was the hype that put him over the edge. The award usually goes to someone with a "he should be in the NHL already" buzz. I don't feel that about Nyquist.

Plus, it's easier to make the case that his play elevates the whole enterprise if he's on a top 5 or 10 team. On top of that voters are more likely to pick a senior than a sophomore. So I think guys like Rakhshani or Geoffrion both have a better chance of winning.

I have to agree w/ your point on Nyquist. I truly think he deserves to win this year but won't. He is so far under the radar being the scoring leader and all. It's too bad. I think if Maine were in the top 5 in the country that might be a little different. More articles etc. Hopefully you'll get a chance to see him play at the Garden in the HE tourny. You may change your tune a little after you see how truly gifted he is.

 

[lord k]

Re: Hobey

Hrkac was a great player that piled up big points in an era where defensive systems were not what they are now, and the 7-6 and 6-5 scores were common in college hockey. If a goalie had a .900 - 910 saves percentage in that era, he was all American material. Today, the same goalie would be average. When you watch tapes from that era, the lack of defensive systems is obvious.

Kariya's achievement is more spectacular because 1) he was a freshman and b) by the early 90s, defensive systems, specialized goaltending coaching (and the increasing use of the butterfly style) and satellite dishes were starting to create much more advanced game preparation, and scoring was already dropping by then.

I agree with you 100% but i am a total UND homer so i had to plug some UND players.

The NHL was the same way. Watching old games when Gretzky was with the Oilers is like watching a totally different sport.

 

[Federal League]

Re: Hobey

My weekly Hobey Watch column for Inside Hockey.

 

[ck1969]

Re: Hobey

My weekly Hobey Watch column for Inside Hockey.

Nice.

 

[streaker]

Re: Hobey

My weekly Hobey Watch column for Inside Hockey.

Good article. I don't know all of the criteria used to pick the Hobey, but I imagine they are similar to the Heisman in terms of how valuable the player is to the team and their success, as well as their stats.

I saw Polacek play and he is the real deal. Olver is a sniper. The Wisconsin and Denver candidates all deserve recognition. Personally, I think Chevy is the top candidate, with no offense to Nyquist. I assume the politics of where Maine finishes and being an underclassman may influence that.

 

[IdahoBemidjiFan]

Re: Hobey

My weekly Hobey Watch column for Inside Hockey.

Great article! While I don't agree with all of the top 10, I think your top 5 are right on. I'd personally put Cheverie on top, but then again I have west coast bias...

 

[yalehockeyfan]

Re: Hobey

This player currently leads the nation in goals (25), goals-per-game (.82) and game-winnners (7). He is on a team that won their conference and has been nationally ranked in top-10 for most of the year. During the month of February he registered 10 goals and six assists for 16 points to lead the his team to a 7-1-0 record. He also recorded six multiple-point games and three multiple-goal games in eight February contests.

He isn't on your list as a top 10.

His name is Broc Little .

 

[Dirty]

Re: Hobey

Yale sucks. No one cares.

 

[SPIN CONTROL]

Re: Hobey

Kariya's achievement is more spectacular because 1) he was a freshman and b) by the early 90s, defensive systems, specialized goaltending coaching (and the increasing use of the butterfly style) and satellite dishes were starting to create much more advanced game preparation, and scoring was already dropping by then.

One only has to look at Cal Ingraham's numbers before and after Kariya left to realize how much he dominated the game and made everyone around him a superstar....


1991-92 U. of Maine NCAA 15g 30a 45pts
1992-93 U. of Maine NCAA 46g 39a 85pts
1993-94 U. of Maine NCAA 12g 17a 29pts

 

[Puck Swami]

Re: Hobey

One only has to look at Cal Ingraham's numbers before and after Kariya left to realize how much he dominated the game and made everyone around him a superstar....


1991-92 U. of Maine NCAA 15g 30a 45pts
1992-93 U. of Maine NCAA 46g 39a 85pts
1993-94 U. of Maine NCAA 12g 17a 29pts

You should have seen Ingraham's numbers at Air Force....

 

[yaledoc]

Re: Hobey

Yale sucks. No one cares.

Dirty, while you a slinging your moronic barbs, contemplate this:
The number one student at UND couldn't get into Yale.
Furthermore, try to be a tad more diplomatic...... one day you
might be begging a Yalie for a job!!!!

 

[Dirty]

Re: Hobey

Just like some talentless schmuck from Yale couldn't win the Hobey. Maybe he can make the Top 10 though! Wouldn't that be an accomplishment?

P.S. There is this technology called word wrap. Look into it. I'm sure with your Yale education you'll be able to master it in a week or two.

 

[doghok]

Re: Hobey

If Colgate advances through the play-off's, the committee would be hard pressed not to consider McIntyre from Colgate as a finalist. Even though he is not at the top of the points in the NCAA, he was a finalist last year, and is deserving of recognition if the team advances. I believe, both he and Colin Greening from Cornell, are likely the two top players in the ECAC, and likely the strongest candidates out of this conference to have opportunities in hockey after school finishes this year.
I heard from Colgate Alumni, that he has played this year through injuries and surgury to repair damage, as well as being put into more of a mentoring role to assist with the development of an abundance of UnderClassmen to prepare for a play-off run.
If Colgate advances, especially to the conference championships, then he should be considered.

 

[ck1969]

Re: Hobey

One only has to look at Cal Ingraham's numbers before and after Kariya left to realize how much he dominated the game and made everyone around him a superstar....


1991-92 U. of Maine NCAA 15g 30a 45pts
1992-93 U. of Maine NCAA 46g 39a 85pts
1993-94 U. of Maine NCAA 12g 17a 29pts

Look at Tanner House's and Brian Flynn's numbers this year. 31 & 39 pts and Flynn is a frosh. Nyquist has made them an offensive power.