PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
I think the Utica to the SUNYAC deal is toast. That was last summer's news and they got denied.
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Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
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I think the Utica to the SUNYAC deal is toast. That was last summer's news and they got denied.
gojackets
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Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
I actually prefer this with the seperation of the WIAC schools and those 4 lonely teams...the pool B slot is back..and in most cases I'd say that goes to a WIAC school...which I know would **** off all you eastern folks
I actually prefer this with the seperation of the WIAC schools and those 4 lonely teams...the pool B slot is back..and in most cases I'd say that goes to a WIAC school...which I know would **** off all you eastern folks
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Yes, they are multiplying like rabbits.
Yes, they are multiplying like rabbits.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
I actually prefer this with the seperation of the WIAC schools and those 4 lonely teams...the pool B slot is back..and in most cases I'd say that goes to a WIAC school...which I know would **** off all you eastern folks
I hadn't even thought about Pool B until talking with a western coach late last night.
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Did the WIAC school leave the NCHA in women's hockey too? I don't know why I thought it was only on the men's side...
Did the WIAC school leave the NCHA in women's hockey too? I don't know why I thought it was only on the men's side...
gojackets
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Yes. Those 4 are on their own after this season
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Does anyone recall the wording of the Pool "B" qualification? Will the WIAC schools be the only ones considered, as they are members of a conference, or will the current (and future) independents (for '13-'14 UNE, Stevenson, SUNY Canton and Williams Smith) also be Pool "B" candidates?
Does anyone recall the wording of the Pool "B" qualification? Will the WIAC schools be the only ones considered, as they are members of a conference, or will the current (and future) independents (for '13-'14 UNE, Stevenson, SUNY Canton and Williams Smith) also be Pool "B" candidates?
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Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Pool B applies to any team that is not in an autobid conference. That's the whole point; it'd be silly to restrict it to conferences without autobids.
Powers &8^]
Pool B applies to any team that is not in an autobid conference. That's the whole point; it'd be silly to restrict it to conferences without autobids.
Powers &8^]
Derek Dunning
Women's Division III Correspondent
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
William Smith will not be starting until 2014-15 and I have to check on SUNY Canton's official D-III status for 2013-14. I know they are transitioning currently.
William Smith will not be starting until 2014-15 and I have to check on SUNY Canton's official D-III status for 2013-14. I know they are transitioning currently.
gojackets
New member
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
The MIAC also has an autobid...did you mean WIAC??
The MIAC also has an autobid...did you mean WIAC??
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Force of habit.
The MIAC also has an autobid...did you mean WIAC??
Force of habit.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Exactly. No current SUNYAC women's hockey school is going to want to leave a conference with an autobid for a conference without one. (See the stupidity of the WIAC on the men's side.)
The SUNYAC bylaws state that if seven (7) members play a sport, it must by in the SUNYAC conference. And once it's in the SUNYAC conference, all members in that sport must join it. That magical number is obviously due to the autobid rule. BTW, before that autobid rule, the SUNYAC bylaws set the number at six (6). If a school doesn't join a sport in the SUNYAC or wishes to pull a sport out of the SUNYAC, the entire school gets booted out of the SUNYAC (see Albany withdrawing from SUNYAC back when they were D3 because their basketball team wanted to leave). That answers your question about the all or nothing rule.
Exactly. No current SUNYAC women's hockey school is going to want to leave a conference with an autobid for a conference without one. (See the stupidity of the WIAC on the men's side.)
The SUNYAC bylaws state that if seven (7) members play a sport, it must by in the SUNYAC conference. And once it's in the SUNYAC conference, all members in that sport must join it. That magical number is obviously due to the autobid rule. BTW, before that autobid rule, the SUNYAC bylaws set the number at six (6). If a school doesn't join a sport in the SUNYAC or wishes to pull a sport out of the SUNYAC, the entire school gets booted out of the SUNYAC (see Albany withdrawing from SUNYAC back when they were D3 because their basketball team wanted to leave). That answers your question about the all or nothing rule.
gojackets
New member
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Its also pronounced We-ac not why-ac. Where MIAC is My-ac not me-ac
Its also pronounced We-ac not why-ac. Where MIAC is My-ac not me-ac
polarbear2
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Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Now, there's that Midwestern drawl sneaking in again GJ...
Its also pronounced We-ac not why-ac. Where MIAC is My-ac not me-ac
Now, there's that Midwestern drawl sneaking in again GJ...
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
This thread seems to have made a left turn. Congrats to William Smith on starting a new program. Hopefully this will lead to a few more schools jumping on board soon to continue to grow Womens DIII hockey!! This is great news.
This thread seems to have made a left turn. Congrats to William Smith on starting a new program. Hopefully this will lead to a few more schools jumping on board soon to continue to grow Womens DIII hockey!! This is great news.
Derek Dunning
Women's Division III Correspondent
Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Time to resurrect this thread.
William & Smith was granted admission to the ECAC West for the 2014-15 season, while it appears Stevenson was left out again for the second year in a row.
Franklin Pierce and UNE were also accepted into the ECAC East leaving us with just one lone independent program in Stevenson.
This kills the thought of Pool B coming back to save the WIAC schools from having to compete for only Pool C bids.
We'll still have five automatic qualifiers and three Pool C (at-large bids).
ECAC East now with almost an unfathomable 14-member league, including one Division I school (Holy Cross) and three Division II schools (Franklin Pierce, Saint Anselm and St. Michaels) which those games do not count for NCAA purposes.
Time to resurrect this thread.
William & Smith was granted admission to the ECAC West for the 2014-15 season, while it appears Stevenson was left out again for the second year in a row.
Franklin Pierce and UNE were also accepted into the ECAC East leaving us with just one lone independent program in Stevenson.
This kills the thought of Pool B coming back to save the WIAC schools from having to compete for only Pool C bids.
We'll still have five automatic qualifiers and three Pool C (at-large bids).
ECAC East now with almost an unfathomable 14-member league, including one Division I school (Holy Cross) and three Division II schools (Franklin Pierce, Saint Anselm and St. Michaels) which those games do not count for NCAA purposes.
HockeyEast33
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Re: Hobart and William Smith starting hockey?
Franklin Pierce and UNE accepted for 2013-2014 or 2014-2015? Bummer for Stevenson, but what league was going to sign up for recurring visits way down there...too expensive.
Franklin Pierce and UNE accepted for 2013-2014 or 2014-2015? Bummer for Stevenson, but what league was going to sign up for recurring visits way down there...too expensive.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Franklin pierce and UNE for 2014-15.
If the SUNYAC women's league forms, the ECAC west will be forced to bring them in.
Utica
Neumann
Elmira
Chatham
William Smith
Stevenson would give them 6 and the travel for all of those teams isn't anything more than what they are doing now.
The SUNY schools are the ones that likely continue to vote down Stevenson. Plattsburgh and Potsdam to Stevenson is quite the haul.
It's too bad because I have a feeling if Stevenson could get into a league they would quickly become a decent program. They are definitely pro athletics down there and wouldn't get into this if they didnt have plans on being competitive.
To clarify the latter mentioned 4 school's games against each other count towards the National Collegiate championship selection but not towards the D-III selection.