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He's dead, Jim.

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joecct said:
Absolutely true. But it wasn't treason, as defined by the Constitution.
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I haven't used the word treason. And don't care whether the activities of various Communist spies conform to the definition. Kill 'em.

Stalin, I think, (no doubt based on his extensive experience) may have been on to something at the end of the war. He advocated summarily executing the top 50,000 Nazis, immediately. Then we could establish tribunals to decide whether this Nazi postal clerk or that chiropodist should be hanged for war crimes. Churchill reportedly was stunned and shocked by "Uncle Joe's" suggestion. But it had merit. It really did. And before anyone gets a case of the vapors, I'm satisfied with the way things turned out and the precedents that were established. Judgment at Nuremburg is one of my favorite films. Still, we didn't clip Jochen Peiper when we had the chance. I'd like a do over on that one.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It matters naught whether the Soviets were 'frenemies' or enemies when the Rosenbergs and their ilk handed over US nuclear secrets as casually as if they were a blue ribbon apple pie recipe. That was classified information that they had no right to divulge to any foreign government.
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It seems to me that the US made a huge strategic error in trying to keep nuclear weapon technology secret in the first place.

Imagine an alternate history after the end of WWII: US fully discloses all deails of nuclear weapons manufacture, then tells everyone how to spot when nuclear weapons are being constructed, and then, since we are the only country with working nuclear weapons at that time, we forswear any future use or manufacture as long as everyone else with the technical capabilities agrees to a strict "trust, yet verify" regime of open international inspections. How likely would it be that no one would have any nuclear weapons today? :(
 
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FreshFish said:
It seems to me that the US made a huge strategic error in trying to keep nuclear weapon technology secret in the first place.

Imagine an alternate history after the end of WWII: US fully discloses all deails of nuclear weapons manufacture, then tells everyone how to spot when nuclear weapons are being constructed, and then, since we are the only country with working nuclear weapons at that time, we forswear any future use or manufacture as long as everyone else with the technical capabilities agrees to a strict "trust, yet verify" regime of open international inspections. How likely would it be that no one would have any nuclear weapons today? :(
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Not very likely, as such a mechanism would put way too much faith in the collective willpower and trust amongst the nations of this world. Nations start moving toward developing nukes. Do you go around and start bombing anyone who does? The ability to control what other nations do in this world is limited and in many ways dwindling.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Not very likely, as such a mechanism would put way too much faith in the collective willpower and trust amongst the nations of this world. Nations start moving toward developing nukes. Do you go around and start bombing anyone who does? The ability to control what other nations do in this world is limited and in many ways dwindling.
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at that time, only the US had nuclear weapons. The world was shocked and horrified at the devastation they produced at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's not hard for me to imagine fervent global agreement that such weapons never be used by anyone on anybody ever again at that particular time in history.

Either we start an arms race, or we proactively take steps to prevent one.

The path we did choose to follow led to an arms race and many countries now have nuclear weapons, hidden away. I don't see how the outcome we did so much to bring about is better. :(
 
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Eli Wallach-The Magnificent Seven would have not been the same without him. He was 98. I believe only Robert Vaughn is now left form the stars of that cast.
 
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DrDemento said:
Eli Wallach-The Magnificent Seven would have not been the same without him. He was 98. I believe only Robert Vaughn is now left form the stars of that cast.
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Still enjoy the movie, and especially the theme song. Funny thing, though. I checked out the cast on imdb, and the picture of Yul Bryner has a guy with hair. Don't think I'd ever seen him with hair.
 
DrDemento said:
Eli Wallach-The Magnificent Seven would have not been the same without him. He was 98. I believe only Robert Vaughn is now left form the stars of that cast.
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The Man ruined more searches in the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. He acted with just about everyone.
 
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DrDemento said:
Eli Wallach-The Magnificent Seven would have not been the same without him. He was 98. I believe only Robert Vaughn is now left form the stars of that cast.
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"You came back - for a place like this. Why? A man like you. Why?"
 
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DrDemento said:
Eli Wallach-The Magnificent Seven would have not been the same without him. He was 98. I believe only Robert Vaughn is now left form the stars of that cast.
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And Clint is the only one left from The Good, The Bad & The Ugly :(
 
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CLS said:
Still enjoy the movie, and especially the theme song. Funny thing, though. I checked out the cast on imdb, and the picture of Yul Bryner has a guy with hair. Don't think I'd ever seen him with hair.
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One of the all time great movie music themes.
 
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