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Harvard Crimson 2014-2015: Restoring the Karma

Skate79 said:
NoDak is playing in their home building which is a very tough place to win. They still have an abundance of talent and a very good goalie. Quinny will not have Anas I believe and they just got fed to the wolves. But that's why we play the games.
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is it their home rink?
head coach said on selection show that it "was nice to be playing only 75 miles away"
 
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They're hosting, but Engelstad (and the campus), is in Grand Forks...which is another town. Fargo is just about the halfway point between Minneapolis and Winnipeg.
 
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Split-N said:
Not true. UND is located in Grand Forks, not Fargo. I've never been there but from what I'm told, the Fargo building isn't nearly as nice as "The Ralph" (their home building).
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Right. Sorry. I should have known better.
 
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There is blood in the water ..... I smell a National Championship.
 
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bothman said:
So who can weigh in on UNO? From what I hear, they play a run n gun style and have struggled in the 2nd half of the season. Are they healthy? Injured? Who are the players to watch out for and what are their strengths and challenges? What types of teams have had success against them this year? It will be interesting to see if they can match the speed and skill of Harvard's forwards.

I know very little about them and have not seen them play so would love some folks to weigh in.
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Stick your nose in my UNO season thread or the Midwest Regional thread.

Harvard fan is definitely underrepresented in the Regional thread at this writing.

Question: Do all Harvard fans and their students sound like Charles Emerson Winchester III?

That actually was postulated upon at the tourney watch party here in Omaha this morning by certain individuals that probably drank a few too many Bloody Mary's, I am embarrassed to say. I reminded these classless cruds at the table next to us that said this that the current President of the United States is a Harvard grad.

I/we know know as little about your team as you do about yours, apparently. Our head coaches appear well-acquainted, though:

http://www.omaha.com/uno/uno-hockey...cle_6e88d53a-d0ab-11e4-b53b-13040a1df825.html
 
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Red Cows said:
Stick your nose in my UNO season thread or the Midwest Regional thread.

Harvard fan is definitely underrepresented in the Regional thread at this writing.

Question: Do all Harvard fans and their students sound like Charles Emerson Winchester III?

That actually was postulated upon at the tourney watch party here in Omaha this morning by certain individuals that probably drank a few too many Bloody Mary's, I am embarrassed to say. I reminded these classless cruds at the table next to us that said this that the current President of the United States is a Harvard grad.

I/we know know as little about your team as you do about yours, apparently. Our head coaches appear well-acquainted, though:

http://www.omaha.com/uno/uno-hockey...cle_6e88d53a-d0ab-11e4-b53b-13040a1df825.html
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No, we don't all sound like Major Winchester, although some do. Harvard students and alumni/alumnae are from all over the United States and all parts of the world. For every student with a name like Godfrey Cabot Lowell there are dozens named O'Connor, Russo, Cohen and Wong.

I am forced to admit that Mr Obama is an alumnus, but of the Law School, not Harvard College. Please do not hold that against us.

Our hockey team is drawn from a wide area. One difference is that most come to Harvard directly from high schools/boarding schools. Based on programs that I have read I gather that at many schools the players have spent a year or two playing hockey between high school and college. Like all the Ivies Harvard does not have athletic scholarships and is constrained by the Academic Index (AI). To briefly summarize, the AI is calculated based on GPI, class rank and SAT scores. The mean AI of all entering varsity athletes must be within one standard deviation of the mean AI of the entering class. Some hockey players go on to careers in hockey (such as our current coach, Ted Donato (H '91) ) others go into many other fields. The current head of state of Canada, Governor General David Johnston (H '63) , was an All American at Harvard. I understand that at 73 he still skates like the wind.

I am forced to confess that I know little of Omaha, Nebraska. I do know my grandparents, in 1909, went there for their honeymoon. I also recall that in 1994 my (then but now former) wife was a naval officer and spent two weeks TDY at USSTRATCOM at Offut AFB in February. She often described those weeks as the longest year of her life but that was not due to the people in Nebraska but the fact that a much loved aunt was dying in Boston when she was at Offut.
 
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Veritas said:
No, we don't all sound like Major Winchester, although some do. Harvard students and alumni/alumnae are from all over the United States and all parts of the world. For every student with a name like Godfrey Cabot Lowell there are dozens named O'Connor, Russo, Cohen and Wong.

I am forced to admit that Mr Obama is an alumnus, but of the Law School, not Harvard College. Please do not hold that against us.

Our hockey team is drawn from a wide area. One difference is that most come to Harvard directly from high schools/boarding schools. Based on programs that I have read I gather that at many schools the players have spent a year or two playing hockey between high school and college. Like all the Ivies Harvard does not have athletic scholarships and is constrained by the Academic Index (AI). To briefly summarize, the AI is calculated based on GPI, class rank and SAT scores. The mean AI of all entering varsity athletes must be within one standard deviation of the mean AI of the entering class. Some hockey players go on to careers in hockey (such as our current coach, Ted Donato (H '91) ) others go into many other fields. The current head of state of Canada, Governor General David Johnston (H '63) , was an All American at Harvard. I understand that at 73 he still skates like the wind.

I am forced to confess that I know little of Omaha, Nebraska. I do know my grandparents, in 1909, went there for their honeymoon. I also recall that in 1994 my (then but now former) wife was a naval officer and spent two weeks TDY at USSTRATCOM at Offut AFB in February. She often described those weeks as the longest year of her life but that was not due to the people in Nebraska but the fact that a much loved aunt was dying in Boston when she was at Offut.
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I don't know much about this years team either, but without verifying I believe the coach is still Dean Blais who was coach at North Dakota until a several year stint coaching in the NHL. His UND teams skated extremely well and transitioned like, well, Harvard in 1989. In Omaha they are in the midst of some of the most fertile USHL recruiting grounds and do draw most of their players from there. My brother in law is a Harvard alum and his father and grandfather were both named to the all-time Yale teams in some book about the history of Yale hockey. He is about as normal a guy as there is. Really hope Harvard gets to play in Boston again this season.
 
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In October they played two against Cornell .... tied and won. They split a pair against UNH in late December. They played six against St. Cloud going 2-4. BTW Union, Colgate and Q all split a pair against St. Cloud, who was picked to be a final 4 preseason. They are 12-8-4 league and 18-12-6 overall but have quality wins against Minn State, Minnesota Duluth, Miami, Denver, North Dakota which is about everyone who is anyone in that part of the country.

Since January 1

In League
In league play 2.65 - 2.35 in team Offense - Defense
League leading in killing the power play 83.7
Don't take a lot of penalties 11.27
Goalie leads league .932 & 2.1407
Since January 1 (6-7-3)
Since February 1 (2-5-3)

Since Feb 1 Goals (1.7/2.0)

Have no idea about injuries.
 
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Veritas said:
No, we don't all sound like Major Winchester, although some do. Harvard students and alumni/alumnae are from all over the United States and all parts of the world. For every student with a name like Godfrey Cabot Lowell there are dozens named O'Connor, Russo, Cohen and Wong.

I am forced to admit that Mr Obama is an alumnus, but of the Law School, not Harvard College. Please do not hold that against us.

Our hockey team is drawn from a wide area. One difference is that most come to Harvard directly from high schools/boarding schools. Based on programs that I have read I gather that at many schools the players have spent a year or two playing hockey between high school and college. Like all the Ivies Harvard does not have athletic scholarships and is constrained by the Academic Index (AI). To briefly summarize, the AI is calculated based on GPI, class rank and SAT scores. The mean AI of all entering varsity athletes must be within one standard deviation of the mean AI of the entering class. Some hockey players go on to careers in hockey (such as our current coach, Ted Donato (H '91) ) others go into many other fields. The current head of state of Canada, Governor General David Johnston (H '63) , was an All American at Harvard. I understand that at 73 he still skates like the wind.

I am forced to confess that I know little of Omaha, Nebraska. I do know my grandparents, in 1909, went there for their honeymoon. I also recall that in 1994 my (then but now former) wife was a naval officer and spent two weeks TDY at USSTRATCOM at Offut AFB in February. She often described those weeks as the longest year of her life but that was not due to the people in Nebraska but the fact that a much loved aunt was dying in Boston when she was at Offut.
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Things have changed a little bit as far as where the Crimson players come from.Of the 31 players on their roster,21 played juniors while 8 came straight from preps and 2 directly from high school.
 
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bothman said:
Check out the below in terms of the talent and the # of games missed (Harvard played 36 games this season thus far):

Kerfoot - 10 games (#1 Center)
Malone - 16 games(#2 Center)
McNally - 16 games (#1 D, PP catalyst)
Blackwell - 26 games (#2 wing)
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Amazing achievement. Good luck to you (as well as Yale and Q) going forward in the NCAAs.
 
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Ryan Donato has a 2-5-7 in 4 games thus far with Omaha out of the USHL. Small sample set, but 1.75 pts/gm would put him at the top of the league over the course of a season.
 
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bothman said:
Some NHL perspective on Vesey:

http://www.tsn.ca/the-vesey-watch-is-on-1.238147
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We'll all be holding our breath waiting for his decision. By way of comparison, Don Sweeney waited until his college playing days were through, then joined the Portland Bruins AHL team for their playoff run. Alex Killorn waited until he graduated, then benefitted by the NHL lockout to hone his skills in the minors before joining Tampa Bay. His career in the NHL is looking good. Craig Adams graduated and is still playing with the Pens. I'm not comparing Vesey talent wise to any of these players. Just saying that they got their degrees and were able to play in the NHL. Also include Teddy in that group.

Players who left early who didn't make it include Chris Biotti, Aaron Israel, Jesse Lane, Teddy Drury, Craig MacDonald and probably the most famous, Louis Leblanc. There is a case for staying and finishing what you start.

Vesey is ready right now and he and everyone on the planet knows it. If the Crimson win the national title, I expect him to turn pro. If they don't, I think he'll come back to try and win it next year. Just a hunch. Either way, we as fans win.
 
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bothman said:
Ryan Donato has a 2-5-7 in 4 games thus far with Omaha out of the USHL. Small sample set, but 1.75 pts/gm would put him at the top of the league over the course of a season.
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Aren't you salivating at the prospect of having him on left wing with Malone and Blackwell next year? Yikes, is it going to be fun at B-L next year or what? :)

'course we still have some unfinished business this season. :)
 
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Skate79 said:
We'll all be holding our breath waiting for his decision. By way of comparison, Don Sweeney waited until his college playing days were through, then joined the Portland Bruins AHL team for their playoff run. Alex Killorn waited until he graduated, then benefitted by the NHL lockout to hone his skills in the minors before joining Tampa Bay. His career in the NHL is looking good. Craig Adams graduated and is still playing with the Pens. I'm not comparing Vesey talent wise to any of these players. Just saying that they got their degrees and were able to play in the NHL. Also include Teddy in that group.

Players who left early who didn't make it include Chris Biotti, Aaron Israel, Jesse Lane, Teddy Drury, Craig MacDonald and probably the most famous, Louis Leblanc. There is a case for staying and finishing what you start.

Vesey is ready right now and he and everyone on the planet knows it. If the Crimson win the national title, I expect him to turn pro. If they don't, I think he'll come back to try and win it next year. Just a hunch. Either way, we as fans win.
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To me, it is all about having options and holding the cards. If you have your degree from Harvard (or most schools) or, even better, you become a free agent by not signing with the team that drafted you, you are that much less desperate, more deliberate and sometimes able to negotiate a better situation for yourself. There are even cases of a guy like Dave Saunders from SLU who made it and had a bright future in Vancouver but hated it and quit fairly promptly. I have almost never seen a kid regret staying. I have seen the opposite all too often.
 
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Skate79 said:
We'll all be holding our breath waiting for his decision. By way of comparison, Don Sweeney waited until his college playing days were through, then joined the Portland Bruins AHL team for their playoff run. Alex Killorn waited until he graduated, then benefitted by the NHL lockout to hone his skills in the minors before joining Tampa Bay. His career in the NHL is looking good. Craig Adams graduated and is still playing with the Pens. I'm not comparing Vesey talent wise to any of these players. Just saying that they got their degrees and were able to play in the NHL. Also include Teddy in that group.

Players who left early who didn't make it include Chris Biotti, Aaron Israel, Jesse Lane, Teddy Drury, Craig MacDonald and probably the most famous, Louis Leblanc. There is a case for staying and finishing what you start.

Vesey is ready right now and he and everyone on the planet knows it. If the Crimson win the national title, I expect him to turn pro. If they don't, I think he'll come back to try and win it next year. Just a hunch. Either way, we as fans win.
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Dom Moore might be another example of a guy who completed all four years. Of course LL left early after a year not for the NHL but to go play against 16 year olds because people were targeting him in the ECAC (yeah I'm still bitter) so he may not be the best comparison to Vesey.

As much as I'd like to see Vesey back we also need a McNally clone to move the puck out of the D zone. Of course this is all post-season talk and we're not post our season yet!
 
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bothman said:
Ryan Donato has a 2-5-7 in 4 games thus far with Omaha out of the USHL. Small sample set, but 1.75 pts/gm would put him at the top of the league over the course of a season.
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I am not surprised to hear that. He is a really really nice kid too. I expect he will be a real asset. I have noticed that brother Jack is growing fast, nearly as big as Ryan. He is a possible for the future too. I can't wait to see Ryan in Crimson.
 
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