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Harvard Crimson 2014-15

Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

Waited? You can't honestly believe the timeline of events played out by choice.

For all we know, O'Connor wasn't even an option for 2014-15. Something tells me she would have had to do a year of post-graduate education in order to get into Harvard. From what I understand, many top-notch athletes aren't thrilled about the prospect of attending 19th grade and delaying a college career -- especially when the option exists to play right away at another good school.

Again, that's all beside the point. "Coulda, woulda, shoulda" talk about prior recruiting isn't remotely relevant when we're discussing an Olympic-caliber hockey player having her career cut short. Quickly brushing Pucci's unfortunate situation aside and implying that the way the process was handled might have hurt the team shows that you flat-out don't get it. How anyone (especially a supposed supporter) could react to this kind of news by wondering who could have been in Josephine's place and how it affects the overall talent level on the roster is beyond me.

Two years ago when Pucci sat out due to her concussion I had a chance to speak with her at length at Bright-Landry. She told me about her rehab and the workouts that she and Gedman were going through to get back to 100%. I know how much playing hockey means to her and how devastating it must be for her to miss her senior season. For the record, my only hope is that she fully recovers, has a great senior year and leads a productive, happy life. That is my wish for all our student athletes. Jo is bright, articulate and a terrific person and in no way am I 'brushing aside' what happened to her. That is insulting and incredibly short-sighted.
 
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Report on the Blades game in the CWHL thread. What I said there about Harvard: "I don't know how much practice time Harvard have had, but I wasn't as impressed by them as I was expecting to be. There were a lot of good individual efforts, especially from Daniels and Mary Parker, and the defence was pretty coordinated, but I didn't see great chemistry on the forward lines. It may be an unfair comparison because I came from the end of the game at BC where all the lines are clicking. This didn't help me in rating Harvard as much as I thought it would."

This was an odd one -- no-one on the door in Bright, no autograph session afterwards (which Blades games usually have), no box score or report on the Harvard team website. Good atmosphere from the small crowd. Jo Pucci was in the stands watching.
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

Report on the Blades game in the CWHL thread. What I said there about Harvard: "I don't know how much practice time Harvard have had, but I wasn't as impressed by them as I was expecting to be. There were a lot of good individual efforts, especially from Daniels and Mary Parker, and the defence was pretty coordinated, but I didn't see great chemistry on the forward lines. It may be an unfair comparison because I came from the end of the game at BC where all the lines are clicking. This didn't help me in rating Harvard as much as I thought it would."

This was an odd one -- no-one on the door in Bright, no autograph session afterwards (which Blades games usually have), no box score or report on the Harvard team website. Good atmosphere from the small crowd. Jo Pucci was in the stands watching.

"There were a lot of good individual efforts, especially from Daniels", this statement made me laugh only because it's true. Doesn't she play with her own puck?

How could the chemistry be off? They are all practically from Nobles & Assabet
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

Report on the Blades game in the CWHL thread. What I said there about Harvard: "I don't know how much practice time Harvard have had, but I wasn't as impressed by them as I was expecting to be. There were a lot of good individual efforts, especially from Daniels and Mary Parker, and the defence was pretty coordinated, but I didn't see great chemistry on the forward lines. It may be an unfair comparison because I came from the end of the game at BC where all the lines are clicking. This didn't help me in rating Harvard as much as I thought it would."

This was an odd one -- no-one on the door in Bright, no autograph session afterwards (which Blades games usually have), no box score or report on the Harvard team website. Good atmosphere from the small crowd. Jo Pucci was in the stands watching.

Thanks for the post. I hear ya. (Harvard has yet to acknowledge that the game took place.)
Armstrong?
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

Thanks for the post. I hear ya. (Harvard has yet to acknowledge that the game took place.)
Armstrong?

Haha. Harvard will never acknowledge that the game ever took place because they didn't win. Classic Harvard move. Did the exact same thing a few years ago when they lost an exhibition game to the Aeros.
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

Haha. Harvard will never acknowledge that the game ever took place because they didn't win. Classic Harvard move. Did the exact same thing a few years ago when they lost an exhibition game to the Aeros.

C'mon, playing with the Blades was never listed on Harvard's schedule as an exhibition game or anything else, there was complete silence on the Harvard website about it beforehand and (unlike the McGill exhibition game) no radio or streaming coverage of the goings on at the rink, so since they had consistently chosen to treat it as an unannounced friendly scrimmage, not as a formal exhibition game, they couldn't very well have reported it like an exhibition game if they'd won, could they.... so why should they suddenly treat it as an exhibition game just because they didn't win? Announce the results only if they don't win? C'mon.
 
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C'mon, playing with the Blades was never listed on Harvard's schedule as an exhibition game or anything else, there was complete silence on the Harvard website about it beforehand and (unlike the McGill exhibition game) no radio or streaming coverage of the goings on at the rink, so since they had consistently chosen to treat it as an unannounced friendly scrimmage, not as a formal exhibition game, they couldn't very well have reported it like an exhibition game if they'd won, could they.... so why should they suddenly treat it as an exhibition game just because they didn't win? Announce the results only if they don't win? C'mon.

I, for one, find your clarification useful, even as I allow for some hyperbole in Trillium's post ("Classic Harvard move")! What I don't understand is why these games , call them what you will, should fall off the radar screen the way they seem to ("complete silence"). The Blades did report on their Oct. 11 "exhibition match" with BU, but I can't find anything on the Terriers' page about it, and there is nothing yet from the Blades on the Harvard game (I guess there won't be). The women's game needs all the PR help it can get, and these potentially marquee match-ups, even as scrimmages, are a golden opportunity. I realize there is an advantage to keeping these things flexible and casual, and maybe even last-minute, especially for Harvard as a late-starting team, but still . . .

It would be interesting to know how other CWHL and college teams treat these events (and, for the fan, they are and would be "events"!), though I imagine there are not a lot of them to sample.
 
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The women's game needs all the PR help it can get, and these potentially marquee match-ups, even as scrimmages, are a golden opportunity. I realize there is an advantage to keeping these things flexible and casual, and maybe even last-minute, especially for Harvard as a late-starting team, but still . . .
Minnesota held an open practice that was a scrimmage before their first game but Coach Frost made some comments beforehand indicating that, because several alumni were participating, no public announcements about it were allowed. A few of us spread the word to fellow fans through one-to-one communication, but it was pretty well hush-hush.

It feels like a similar scenario here, so the question I have is if the lack of communication is required by the NCAA since it wasn't an official exhibition game.
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

I, for one, find your clarification useful, even as I allow for some hyperbole in Trillium's post ("Classic Harvard move")! What I don't understand is why these games , call them what you will, should fall off the radar screen the way they seem to ("complete silence"). The Blades did report on their Oct. 11 "exhibition match" with BU, but I can't find anything on the Terriers' page about it, and there is nothing yet from the Blades on the Harvard game (I guess there won't be). The women's game needs all the PR help it can get, and these potentially marquee match-ups, even as scrimmages, are a golden opportunity. I realize there is an advantage to keeping these things flexible and casual, and maybe even last-minute, especially for Harvard as a late-starting team, but still . . .

It would be interesting to know how other CWHL and college teams treat these events (and, for the fan, they are and would be "events"!), though I imagine there are not a lot of them to sample.

While I buy the point that Harvard shouldn't later report on results of a game they failed to acknowledge had even been scheduled, (unlike the Aeros game referred to when they had it listed on the schedule but omitted the losing result), as driventoit notes I see no logical reason for pretending in the first place that an exhibition game was never happening at all.

When BU played the Blades a couple of weeks ago, the game and box score appeared on this site. The exhibition matches played by the Montreal Stars against Northeastern and Providence also were reported with box scores. Many teams had scheduled games against Canadian U19 club teams, which appeared on the USCHO schedule with box scores.

Everyone knows that the results of these games don't count in the player or team stats.

The big question is why there is a need for secrecy in this particular case?
 
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Minnesota held an open practice that was a scrimmage before their first game but Coach Frost made some comments beforehand indicating that, because several alumni were participating, no public announcements about it were allowed. A few of us spread the word to fellow fans through one-to-one communication, but it was pretty well hush-hush.

It feels like a similar scenario here, so the question I have is if the lack of communication is required by the NCAA since it wasn't an official exhibition game.

FWIW, the Harvard women's hockey twitter page mentioned the game solely to mention the Harvard alumnae on the Blades that were coming back. But that's all I saw/heard about the game.
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

FWIW, the Harvard women's hockey twitter page mentioned the game solely to mention the Harvard alumnae on the Blades that were coming back. But that's all I saw/heard about the game.

I heard about it from Jillian Dempsey after the BU game, or I wouldn't have known at all.
 
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Aren't teams only allowed to have one official exhibition game? That could definitely be why there was 'radio silence. '
 
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Aren't teams only allowed to have one official exhibition game? That could definitely be why there was 'radio silence. '
No. Princeton had two. Yale had two. BU had two. Northeastern had two.
 
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No. Princeton had two. Yale had two. BU had two. Northeastern had two.
But I believe that the second one counts against the 34-game season limit. I recall that Minnesota needed a waiver to schedule a second exhibition and still play a full 34-game regular-season schedule.
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

But I believe that the second one counts against the 34-game season limit.
The 34-game limit wouldn't come into play, because Harvard is dealing with the 29-game Ivy League limit. Yale has 29 games plus 2 exhibitions, as does Princeton.
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

In case anyone didn't notice this analysis of the team posted on the ECAC thread (with a tip of the hat to Trillium for posting it):

"Reposting this detailed ECAC Pre-season Preview on AtEvenStrength.com blog which may be of interest....

1. Harvard
Key Departures: F Elizabeth Parker, F Gina McDonald
Key Returnees: F Miye D’Oench, F Hillary Crowe, D Melissa Gedman, D Sarah Edney, G Emerance Maschmeyer
Key Additions: D Michelle Picard, F Lyndsey Fry, F Karly Heffernan, F Dani Krzysczyk, F Lexie Laing

Harvard got off to a hot start last season despite losing some key players to the U.S. Women’s National Team, and stood atop the ECAC standings for much of the first half of the year. However, a short bench and a lack of experience caught up to them; their offense was inconsistent and their goaltending looked worn down by the end of the season. Despite holding the second-best record in the ECAC, they found themselves in a very close battle with Yale in the conference quarterfinals, and were pushed to three games by the Bulldogs before falling to Cornell in the ECAC semifinals. The Crimson went on to face Wisconsin in the NCAA quarterfinals, but were stymied by the Badgers’ defense and staunch goaltending of Alex Rigsby.

At the very least, Harvard should be able to find much more dependable scoring this year. Olympian Lyndsey Fry makes her return to the club for her senior season, while Miye D’Oench should also make some noise after a 39-point sophomore campaign and a solid showing for the U.S. in the U22 Series against Canada. Hillary Crowe, Samantha Reber, and Mary Parker all scored upwards of 25 points last season and make for decent top-six options. Kalley Armstrong, the 2013 ECAC Defensive Forward of the Year, makes her return to the roster after missing the 2013-14 season. Sydney Daniels is a high-upside player, and Dylanne Crugnale showed promise as well. The Crimson are also bringing in talent up front with the additions of rookies Karly Heffernan, Dani Krzyszczyk, and Lexie Laing, all of whom have competed at the U18 World Championships (the former two for Canada, and Laing for the United States).

On defense, the Crimson get back Olympian Michelle Picard, who competed with Fry for Team USA in Sochi. They also aren’t losing any players on the back-end, which is always a plus for any team, though they did lack depth. But Sarah Edney made significant strides last season, and Marissa Gedman is a dependable veteran. With the return of Picard, Harvard’s top-four should be in good shape, but there are still some question marks in regards to their depth D. Natasha Rachlin, Briana Mastel, and Robyn White stepped in as rookies last year, but they still have quite a bit to prove before they can be counted on consistently in high-pressure situations.

Emerance Maschmeyer should once again assume control of the starting goaltender position. Her first-half performance was a big reason why the Crimson had such a good start to the year; however, she wasn’t in top form at the end of the year, which was perhaps because of how heavily she was relied on. But Maschmeyer has proven that she can take over a game on almost any night, and she should have a more competitive team in front of her this year, lessening the strain on her. Back-up netminder Brianna Laing had some good showings last season, and she could be a go-to option if necessary as well.

Harvard’s forward depth should be much more sufficient with the return of Fry and Armstrong and the addition of Heffernan, Krzyszczyk, and Laing. Daniels should also improve production-wise this year, and the Crimson could boast the best forward group in the conference if all goes well. They’re still a bit short on blue line depth, but they’ll be able to get quality minutes out of their top-three defensemen. Maschmeyer is far and away the ECAC’s best goalie heading into the season, and she should be able to make up for Harvard’s defensive weaknesses on most nights.
 
Re: Harvard Crimson 2014-15

In case anyone didn't notice this analysis of the team posted on the ECAC thread (with a tip of the hat to Trillium for posting it):

"Reposting this detailed ECAC Pre-season Preview on AtEvenStrength.com blog which may be of interest....

1. Harvard
Key Departures: F Elizabeth Parker, F Gina McDonald
Key Returnees: F Miye D’Oench, F Hillary Crowe, D Melissa Gedman, D Sarah Edney, G Emerance Maschmeyer
Key Additions: D Michelle Picard, F Lyndsey Fry, F Karly Heffernan, F Dani Krzysczyk, F Lexie Laing

Harvard got off to a hot start last season despite losing some key players to the U.S. Women’s National Team, and stood atop the ECAC standings for much of the first half of the year. However, a short bench and a lack of experience caught up to them; their offense was inconsistent and their goaltending looked worn down by the end of the season. Despite holding the second-best record in the ECAC, they found themselves in a very close battle with Yale in the conference quarterfinals, and were pushed to three games by the Bulldogs before falling to Cornell in the ECAC semifinals. The Crimson went on to face Wisconsin in the NCAA quarterfinals, but were stymied by the Badgers’ defense and staunch goaltending of Alex Rigsby.

At the very least, Harvard should be able to find much more dependable scoring this year. Olympian Lyndsey Fry makes her return to the club for her senior season, while Miye D’Oench should also make some noise after a 39-point sophomore campaign and a solid showing for the U.S. in the U22 Series against Canada. Hillary Crowe, Samantha Reber, and Mary Parker all scored upwards of 25 points last season and make for decent top-six options. Kalley Armstrong, the 2013 ECAC Defensive Forward of the Year, makes her return to the roster after missing the 2013-14 season. Sydney Daniels is a high-upside player, and Dylanne Crugnale showed promise as well. The Crimson are also bringing in talent up front with the additions of rookies Karly Heffernan, Dani Krzyszczyk, and Lexie Laing, all of whom have competed at the U18 World Championships (the former two for Canada, and Laing for the United States).

On defense, the Crimson get back Olympian Michelle Picard, who competed with Fry for Team USA in Sochi. They also aren’t losing any players on the back-end, which is always a plus for any team, though they did lack depth. But Sarah Edney made significant strides last season, and Marissa Gedman is a dependable veteran. With the return of Picard, Harvard’s top-four should be in good shape, but there are still some question marks in regards to their depth D. Natasha Rachlin, Briana Mastel, and Robyn White stepped in as rookies last year, but they still have quite a bit to prove before they can be counted on consistently in high-pressure situations.

Emerance Maschmeyer should once again assume control of the starting goaltender position. Her first-half performance was a big reason why the Crimson had such a good start to the year; however, she wasn’t in top form at the end of the year, which was perhaps because of how heavily she was relied on. But Maschmeyer has proven that she can take over a game on almost any night, and she should have a more competitive team in front of her this year, lessening the strain on her. Back-up netminder Brianna Laing had some good showings last season, and she could be a go-to option if necessary as well.

Harvard’s forward depth should be much more sufficient with the return of Fry and Armstrong and the addition of Heffernan, Krzyszczyk, and Laing. Daniels should also improve production-wise this year, and the Crimson could boast the best forward group in the conference if all goes well. They’re still a bit short on blue line depth, but they’ll be able to get quality minutes out of their top-three defensemen. Maschmeyer is far and away the ECAC’s best goalie heading into the season, and she should be able to make up for Harvard’s defensive weaknesses on most nights.



that roster is unreal...going to be a tough year for ECAC, HE, WCHA...whoever.
 
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