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Gulf Oil Spill 2010
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unh_hockey
pain is temporary pride is forever
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
lol...the evil CEO baby killer argument! Can't have a political thread without some mention of murder.
Anyone else seeing what our friends in the ethonal industry are doing? Leveraging this incident to try and push the E15 mandate? They claim to displace petrol, but the fact is their product depends on petrol. What does that mean for you? An inferior fuel for your cars. A product proven to degrade components in older lawnmowers, and other farm equipment as well as some cars. Did I mention your gas mileage will get worse? (burning a fuel with lower BTUs means you need to fill up more).
So the farm subsidies...errr Corn Ethanol Scammers just want their share and are using this BP incident to get attention. Pathetic..maybe the only thing worse than kicking a few babies
lol...the evil CEO baby killer argument! Can't have a political thread without some mention of murder.
Anyone else seeing what our friends in the ethonal industry are doing? Leveraging this incident to try and push the E15 mandate? They claim to displace petrol, but the fact is their product depends on petrol. What does that mean for you? An inferior fuel for your cars. A product proven to degrade components in older lawnmowers, and other farm equipment as well as some cars. Did I mention your gas mileage will get worse? (burning a fuel with lower BTUs means you need to fill up more).
So the farm subsidies...errr Corn Ethanol Scammers just want their share and are using this BP incident to get attention. Pathetic..maybe the only thing worse than kicking a few babies
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
Greed kills. No two ways about it. Corn Ethanol has to be one of the least efficient forms of energy ever devised. And the gubbermint keeps pumping the money in.
lol...the evil CEO baby killer argument! Can't have a political thread without some mention of murder.
Anyone else seeing what our friends in the ethonal industry are doing? Leveraging this incident to try and push the E15 mandate? They claim to displace petrol, but the fact is their product depends on petrol. What does that mean for you? An inferior fuel for your cars. A product proven to degrade components in older lawnmowers, and other farm equipment as well as some cars. Did I mention your gas mileage will get worse? (burning a fuel with lower BTUs means you need to fill up more).
So the farm subsidies...errr Corn Ethanol Scammers just want their share and are using this BP incident to get attention. Pathetic..maybe the only thing worse than kicking a few babies
Greed kills. No two ways about it. Corn Ethanol has to be one of the least efficient forms of energy ever devised. And the gubbermint keeps pumping the money in.
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
So you're saying the corn farmers and ADM are equivalent to Charles Manson?
lol...the evil CEO baby killer argument! Can't have a political thread without some mention of murder.
Anyone else seeing what our friends in the ethonal industry are doing? Leveraging this incident to try and push the E15 mandate? They claim to displace petrol, but the fact is their product depends on petrol. What does that mean for you? An inferior fuel for your cars. A product proven to degrade components in older lawnmowers, and other farm equipment as well as some cars. Did I mention your gas mileage will get worse? (burning a fuel with lower BTUs means you need to fill up more).
So the farm subsidies...errr Corn Ethanol Scammers just want their share and are using this BP incident to get attention. Pathetic..maybe the only thing worse than kicking a few babies
So you're saying the corn farmers and ADM are equivalent to Charles Manson?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
Pretty close.
So you're saying the corn farmers and ADM are equivalent to Charles Manson?
Pretty close.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
SHouldn't the attention be on stopping the leak and cleaning it up? Congress doesn't have all the facts yet so why waste time trying to prosecute the guy. Hang'em for I care after the leak is stopped.
E15 is close, they been pushing it for awhile, rumor is its coming to Maine.? Why only 15%, why not more ethanol? 15% is all present day equipment can handle. Some Gas stations in New England have already had to upgrade piping in order to handle E10. I wonder who ended up paying for that
SHouldn't the attention be on stopping the leak and cleaning it up? Congress doesn't have all the facts yet so why waste time trying to prosecute the guy. Hang'em for I care after the leak is stopped.
E15 is close, they been pushing it for awhile, rumor is its coming to Maine.? Why only 15%, why not more ethanol? 15% is all present day equipment can handle. Some Gas stations in New England have already had to upgrade piping in order to handle E10. I wonder who ended up paying for that
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
Certainly not the companies that stand to profit from it.
Some Gas stations in New England have already had to upgrade piping in order to handle E10. I wonder who ended up paying for that
Certainly not the companies that stand to profit from it.
unh_hockey
pain is temporary pride is forever
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
the number I am finding is 17 billion dollars in subsidies over the past 5 years from myself, all of you, and even Todd Bertizzi.
(good lord, a Bertuzzi reference one post after a baby kicking reference? when do I get banned?)
the number I am finding is 17 billion dollars in subsidies over the past 5 years from myself, all of you, and even Todd Bertizzi.
(good lord, a Bertuzzi reference one post after a baby kicking reference? when do I get banned?)
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huskyfan
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Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
scary post. Manson MEANT to kill people. Tony Hayward did not want this to happen.
scary post. Manson MEANT to kill people. Tony Hayward did not want this to happen.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
WeWantMore
New member
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
So he wanted an oil rig to blow up, have 6 people die, have his company lose all their money, and have his named dragged through the dirt?
*Not that he doesn't fully deserve the last two*
So he wanted an oil rig to blow up, have 6 people die, have his company lose all their money, and have his named dragged through the dirt?
*Not that he doesn't fully deserve the last two*
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Priceless
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Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
That explains why he turned a blind eye to the 760 violations the company has accumulated (to ExxonMobil's one) and why 30 workers were killed and more than 200 injured in "accidents" before this most recent one.
Of course, we've de-criminalized such activity. How can we possibly hold one person accountable for the deaths of others at the hands of a corporation? Sure, if a guy goes frickin' insane and kills nine people, we can lock him up for life; but if a corporation kills even more people, we say how horrible it is but we don't hold anyone accountable.
Manson is in jail for life for his crimes.
Hayward got an apology for his.
That explains why he turned a blind eye to the 760 violations the company has accumulated (to ExxonMobil's one) and why 30 workers were killed and more than 200 injured in "accidents" before this most recent one.
Of course, we've de-criminalized such activity. How can we possibly hold one person accountable for the deaths of others at the hands of a corporation? Sure, if a guy goes frickin' insane and kills nine people, we can lock him up for life; but if a corporation kills even more people, we say how horrible it is but we don't hold anyone accountable.
Manson is in jail for life for his crimes.
Hayward got an apology for his.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
Companies do Risk Management. Or they should.
It is clear BP was negligent in this case. It is up to a court to decide if that negligence cause the death of those people. If it did then BP and Tony are culpable for said deaths.
Lack of Risk Management is what has caused a huge uptick in the public on the subject of oversight and whether there is any. In the case of the bank failure and now in the case of the oil rig.
Right on, Priceless. Right on.
Companies do Risk Management. Or they should.
It is clear BP was negligent in this case. It is up to a court to decide if that negligence cause the death of those people. If it did then BP and Tony are culpable for said deaths.
Lack of Risk Management is what has caused a huge uptick in the public on the subject of oversight and whether there is any. In the case of the bank failure and now in the case of the oil rig.
Right on, Priceless. Right on.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
Whatever they did, didn't work. And we still don't know what happened for sure and everyone knows nothing is going to happen to Tony. He'll lose his job with a 100 million dollar going away quietly bonus
Whatever they did, didn't work. And we still don't know what happened for sure and everyone knows nothing is going to happen to Tony. He'll lose his job with a 100 million dollar going away quietly bonus
WeWantMore
New member
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
And I won't argue with any of that. However, Manson SET OUT to kill people, that was his goal. Hayward was negligent, knowing his actions COULD kill people.
Both are despicable, but they are not the same.
And I won't argue with any of that. However, Manson SET OUT to kill people, that was his goal. Hayward was negligent, knowing his actions COULD kill people.
Both are despicable, but they are not the same.
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
Well said. People are far to quick to blithely make this sort of far-fetched comparison.
Well said. People are far to quick to blithely make this sort of far-fetched comparison.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Gulf Oil Spill 2010
That's fine. But what I was responding to was this:
And sorry but huskyfan cannot know that. If Tony took the risk in the spirit of profit than Tony WISHED it wouldn't happen. I'd equate it to a drunk driver. A drunk driver doesn't want to get in an accident but he/she is not doing everything in their power not to get in one cause they drove the car.
Well, Tony drove the car drunk in this case. I don't think there is any question about that.
That's fine. But what I was responding to was this:
And sorry but huskyfan cannot know that. If Tony took the risk in the spirit of profit than Tony WISHED it wouldn't happen. I'd equate it to a drunk driver. A drunk driver doesn't want to get in an accident but he/she is not doing everything in their power not to get in one cause they drove the car.
Well, Tony drove the car drunk in this case. I don't think there is any question about that.