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Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

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Probably not, I've never played online, just solitaire. I occasionally look at the Apolyton or CivFanatics forums and read about people scoring 100k on Deity and think (1) their strategies don't look like any fun and (2) Jesus H. Christmas, who are these people? Do they have families?

I can't beat the computer on the second difficulty level any more. I don't know when I started to suck at video games, but it's happened.
 
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Wow...hey losers go play your game and let the adults talk :p ;) :p

That leaves you out :p

I've seen the adults talk here....frankly the Civ games discussions actually go somewhere productive. :D

We can talk Civ tactics or debate torture ad nauseum...what's your pleasure? ;)
 
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hey, if a computer game says Communism works, it must be true. :rolleyes:
 
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I can't beat the computer on the second difficulty level any more. I don't know when I started to suck at video games, but it's happened.

You can't beat the AI on Warlord? What do you have, Deep Blue? :p
 
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with the amount of our debt they own, you could argue China is propping up the US not the other way around.

If they stop buying our debt we go bankrupt, the dollar craters and they're left holding tissue paper. 21st century mutual assured destruction.
 
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If they stop buying our debt we go bankrupt, the dollar craters and they're left holding tissue paper. 21st century mutual assured destruction.

Obama and Federal Reserve keep printing money and its tissue paper, either way they're screwed
 
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If they stop buying our debt we go bankrupt, the dollar craters and they're left holding tissue paper. 21st century mutual assured destruction.

OR we stop spending money
 
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...Once Saudi Arabia and Egypt become democracies, ....
What's the over/under? 2109?

I come back to Democracy is one form of government that may work. It works for us, but not everywhere. Benevolent despots (are there any?) would work somewhere else, but not here.

I submit that if the population is content, any form of government will do.
 
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There are plenty of different "freedoms," for that matter. There's the Isaiah Berlin active vs passive freedom dichotomy. There are religious ideas of being "free" of worldly encumbrances to pursue enlightenment. And of course there's the whole western capitalist spectrum ranging from the left's freedom from dying of diphtheria to the right's freedom to buy a fifth country home.

But even if freedom and well-being are culturally relative, self-determination is still probably a common foundation. Even if many choices can be equally correct, you still need the ability to choose, and to change your choice later. Even a dictatorship needs an occasion ratification, by ballot or bullet.
 
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Well, well. It seems that there may be some Americans who need their communications with overseas terrorist groups monitored after all... Lovely.
 
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Well, well. It seems that there may be some Americans who need their communications with overseas terrorist groups monitored after all... Lovely.

Yes, it's shocking news there are folks here connected with terrorists.
 
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Yes, it's shocking news there are folks here connected with terrorists.

This will come as particularly surprising to the people of Oklahoma City.
 
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Its a divergent policy:

Chill out and be friends with countries - most govts are concerned with public and international opinion like never before...so they will largely be forced to be friendly once we do. Let the UN carry more heavy lifting...

Pursue AQ to the ends of the earth - no change...you just don't have to act out (ie GW) in order to be vigilant

Then start diverting military spending to more important causes like reducing deficit spending or more efficiently putting Americans to work. We are still financing the protection of central Germany at a time when its in the heart of the EU and the only threat Russia poses is the reduction of oil supplies. Definitely not worth the US diving on its budgetary sword for...
 
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We are still financing the protection of central Germany at a time when its in the heart of the EU and the only threat Russia poses is the reduction of oil supplies. Definitely not worth the US diving on its budgetary sword for...

We're buying influence and stability for our multinationals so they can raid the treasury for bailouts and outsource. That's what happens when bribes are "protected speech." :p
 
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Ex-DHS chief links politics to terror alerts

WASHINGTON – Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge claims in a new book that he was pressured by other members of President George W. Bush's Cabinet to raise the nation's terror alert level just before the 2004 presidential election.

Ridge says he objected to raising the security level despite the urgings of former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, according to a publicity release from Ridge's publisher. He said the episode convinced him to follow through with his plans to leave the administration; he resigned on Nov. 30, 2004.

Bush's former homeland security adviser, Frances Townsend, said Thursday that politics never played a role in determining alert levels.

Two tapes were released by al-Qaida in the weeks leading up to the election — one by terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and the other by a man calling himself "Azzam the American." Terrorism experts suspected that "Azzam the American" was Adam Gadahn, a 26-year-old Californian whom the FBI had been urgently seeking.

Townsend said the videotapes contained "very graphic" and "threatening" messages.

Townsend said that anytime there was a discussion of changing the alert level, she first spoke with Ridge and then, if necessary, called a meeting of the homeland security council comprising the secretaries of defense and homeland security, the attorney general and CIA and FBI directors. The group then made a recommendation to the president about whether the color-coded threat level should be raised.

"Never were politics ever discussed in this context in my presence," she said.

Asked if there was any reason for Ridge to have felt pressured, Townsend said: "He was certainly not pressured. And, by the way, he didn't object when it was raised and he certainly didn't object when it wasn't raised."

Ridge's publicist, Joe Rinaldi, said Ridge was out of town and was not doing interviews until his book, "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... and How We Can Be Safe Again," is released on Sept. 1.

In 2004, Ridge explained why he didn't feel the alert should be raised. "We don't have to go to (code level) orange to take action in response either to these tapes or just general action to improve security around the country," he said then.

In 2005, months after he resigned, Ridge said his agency has been the most reluctant to raise the alert level. "There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?'" he said during a panel discussion in May 2005. But his book appears to be the first time he publicly attributes some of the pressure to politics.
 
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Obviously Tom Ridge is a commie-pink lefitst islamofascist American hating terrorist sympathizer! :p
 
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