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Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
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Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Oh, I completely agree. But derp is starting to become a bit stale.
Oh, I completely agree. But derp is starting to become a bit stale.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
At this point I'm going to have to award the point to LynahFan.
Also, the underlined portion is one of the best lines I have read on this site.
At this point I'm going to have to award the point to LynahFan.
Also, the underlined portion is one of the best lines I have read on this site.
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
The point was not about Obama inventing drones and pulling the trigger.
The point was that American foriegn policy is greatly improved since we've been changed to a more positive approach and the unwinding of many past mistakes such as Iraq. The drones are an example of accomplishing our goals without all the drama and collateral damage to the US. Is that not obvious?
With such a contribution...there's undoubtedly no bias in this post.
The point was not about Obama inventing drones and pulling the trigger.
The point was that American foriegn policy is greatly improved since we've been changed to a more positive approach and the unwinding of many past mistakes such as Iraq. The drones are an example of accomplishing our goals without all the drama and collateral damage to the US. Is that not obvious?
With such a contribution...there's undoubtedly no bias in this post.
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
How's that commute working for you? Gotten any speed holes in your car yet?
How's that commute working for you? Gotten any speed holes in your car yet?
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Evidently better than your posts are working for you.
Evidently better than your posts are working for you.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Says the guy who used a poll from before Perry was even in the presidential race as evidence for his argument. You might as well have said "In 1980 we elected a Republican so in 2012 we'll obviously elect another."
Says the guy who used a poll from before Perry was even in the presidential race as evidence for his argument. You might as well have said "In 1980 we elected a Republican so in 2012 we'll obviously elect another."
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
At least he can make a post without using some form of "derp" in it
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Says the guy who has made no contribution to this thread. Nothing.
Give a perspective on foriegn relations that's a strength for you...and let's discuss.
Says the guy who has made no contribution to this thread. Nothing.
Give a perspective on foriegn relations that's a strength for you...and let's discuss.
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
I also don't see how foreign policy has "greatly improved" since W left office; most of it is the same despite the rhetoric. Our approach to Afghanistan and Iran is the same as far as I can tell, and even though Obama campaigned on getting us out of Iraq quickly, we still have a massive troop presence there.
So in short, I'd say: stylistically different but functionally very similar.
The drones aren't the be-all/end-all; while they are incredibly useful, they still deal out their share of collateral damage and p*ss off the countries in which we have operated them (such as Pakistan).
I also don't see how foreign policy has "greatly improved" since W left office; most of it is the same despite the rhetoric. Our approach to Afghanistan and Iran is the same as far as I can tell, and even though Obama campaigned on getting us out of Iraq quickly, we still have a massive troop presence there.
So in short, I'd say: stylistically different but functionally very similar.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Change "deadmeat bowing all over the place" to simply he isn't Bush and you have the answer he is looking for
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Funny how we're sending a lot more AQ leaders to their maker, yet there's "no difference" between admins? Oooookaaayyyy.
The difference is the Bush admin sought to nation build using US military force, whereas the Obama admin is far more strategic. AQ will always find soldiers. While offing them in Iraq was nice, its far more effective to send their strategists to their doom. Libya is a great example of where the Bush admin doubtlessly would have left the situation alone under the guise that brutal dictator Khadaffi was a friend, or would have launched another US ground war with would have once again damaged this country's ability to gain cooperation from our allies in that region. Neo conartistism doesn't work, not now, not ever.
Funny how we're sending a lot more AQ leaders to their maker, yet there's "no difference" between admins? Oooookaaayyyy.
The difference is the Bush admin sought to nation build using US military force, whereas the Obama admin is far more strategic. AQ will always find soldiers. While offing them in Iraq was nice, its far more effective to send their strategists to their doom. Libya is a great example of where the Bush admin doubtlessly would have left the situation alone under the guise that brutal dictator Khadaffi was a friend, or would have launched another US ground war with would have once again damaged this country's ability to gain cooperation from our allies in that region. Neo conartistism doesn't work, not now, not ever.
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Oh - no, wait. Upon further review, it's actually just idle speculation masquerading as an actual argument.
Now, see - *this* is a well thought-out, lucid argument backed up by solid evidence.
Oh - no, wait. Upon further review, it's actually just idle speculation masquerading as an actual argument.
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
One of the Nazi saboteurs captured on the east coast was an American. And FDR fried him. And the Supremes ruled unanimously that he was right to do so. One of the persistent problems with prosecuting this war IMO is the "law enforcement" model. We keep talking about bringing these scumbags "to justice," as if we're gonna send Andy Sipowitz over there with a warrant. They are people who have publicly turned their backs on their country, proclaimed their desire to kill more Americans in the name of their idiotic religion, and conspire with American based terrorists to at least give them moral support for their murders. Despite the fact that I think our government has an absolute right and obligation to liquidate as many of these thugs as it can, there don't seem to be many other options.
Like somebody said today, if al Awlaki felt like he was being unfairly treated by the government, he could have come back to clear his name. Instead he taunted America's inability to locate him and promised more killings. Seriously, what are we supposed to do?
One of the Nazi saboteurs captured on the east coast was an American. And FDR fried him. And the Supremes ruled unanimously that he was right to do so. One of the persistent problems with prosecuting this war IMO is the "law enforcement" model. We keep talking about bringing these scumbags "to justice," as if we're gonna send Andy Sipowitz over there with a warrant. They are people who have publicly turned their backs on their country, proclaimed their desire to kill more Americans in the name of their idiotic religion, and conspire with American based terrorists to at least give them moral support for their murders. Despite the fact that I think our government has an absolute right and obligation to liquidate as many of these thugs as it can, there don't seem to be many other options.
Like somebody said today, if al Awlaki felt like he was being unfairly treated by the government, he could have come back to clear his name. Instead he taunted America's inability to locate him and promised more killings. Seriously, what are we supposed to do?
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
That's the Eeyore Doctrine -- "Days, Weeks, Months, who knows?"
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Pajamas Media beat you to this, which is too bad, cuz it's a good line.
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