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Gender Studies I
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Re: Gender Studies I
Point of order:
Traditionally:
1 person: you
2-5 people: y'all
6+ people: all y'all
Point of order:
Traditionally:
1 person: you
2-5 people: y'all
6+ people: all y'all
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
wolverineTrumpet
not particularly bad
Re: Gender Studies I
As someone born South of the Mason-Dixon, by 10 miles, I will tell you that y'all is plural, not singular.
I can also state that in Baltimore "yous" can be singular or plural.
As someone born South of the Mason-Dixon, by 10 miles, I will tell you that y'all is plural, not singular.
I can also state that in Baltimore "yous" can be singular or plural.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Gender Studies I
"Yous" alone is fine, but unfortunately far too often it is used in with another word and you get something like "yous guys" and it is no longer acceptable.
"Yous" alone is fine, but unfortunately far too often it is used in with another word and you get something like "yous guys" and it is no longer acceptable.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Gender Studies I
I was the only other person in the room and a southerner addressed me as "y'all". Sure I could lose a couple pounds, but I ain't plural.
I was the only other person in the room and a southerner addressed me as "y'all". Sure I could lose a couple pounds, but I ain't plural.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: Gender Studies I
A college friend was from Oklahoma, and she told me that "y'all" was used as a singular there. If you're talking to more than one person, from two to infinity, they use "y'all two." And yes, she acknowledged the absurdity of it.
I was the only other person in the room and a southerner addressed me as "y'all". Sure I could lose a couple pounds, but I ain't plural.
A college friend was from Oklahoma, and she told me that "y'all" was used as a singular there. If you're talking to more than one person, from two to infinity, they use "y'all two." And yes, she acknowledged the absurdity of it.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Gender Studies I
The summer before my Jr. and Sr. years in high school I was a camp counselor at the YMCA came in Estes Park, CO. Each session was 2 weeks each with a 1 week break in between. I think they offered (4?) total weeks but I only did 2 total weeks each summer.
The first summer 4 of counselors were girls from Lubbock, TX and being quite savvy made sure to spend as much time around them as possible. They were quite infectious in more ways than one and I had to fight form using, "y'all" by the end of the first week. And especially during the break when we all hung out together a lot it wanted to come out. I managed to not utter it once but **** it wasn't easy.
The summer before my Jr. and Sr. years in high school I was a camp counselor at the YMCA came in Estes Park, CO. Each session was 2 weeks each with a 1 week break in between. I think they offered (4?) total weeks but I only did 2 total weeks each summer.
The first summer 4 of counselors were girls from Lubbock, TX and being quite savvy made sure to spend as much time around them as possible. They were quite infectious in more ways than one and I had to fight form using, "y'all" by the end of the first week. And especially during the break when we all hung out together a lot it wanted to come out. I managed to not utter it once but **** it wasn't easy.
Re: Gender Studies I
During my college years, spent a week in TX (it was a national frat convention). By the end of the week, the TX chapter was saying "you guys" and we were saying "y'all." Freaked us all out.
The summer before my Jr. and Sr. years in high school I was a camp counselor at the YMCA came in Estes Park, CO. Each session was 2 weeks each with a 1 week break in between. I think they offered (4?) total weeks but I only did 2 total weeks each summer.
The first summer 4 of counselors were girls from Lubbock, TX and being quite savvy made sure to spend as much time around them as possible. They were quite infectious in more ways than one and I had to fight form using, "y'all" by the end of the first week. And especially during the break when we all hung out together a lot it wanted to come out. I managed to not utter it once but **** it wasn't easy.
During my college years, spent a week in TX (it was a national frat convention). By the end of the week, the TX chapter was saying "you guys" and we were saying "y'all." Freaked us all out.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Re: Gender Studies I
I heard "womyn" once. Never heard "womxn." Even the word "folx" is a new one on me.
I heard "womyn" once. Never heard "womxn." Even the word "folx" is a new one on me.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Gender Studies I
I get womxn as clever (x chromosome) but I sure don't get it for trans women -- it seems to me substituting x for y is excluding trans women.
But, like I said, aint up to me. Whatever people want me to call them I'm gonna call them.
I get womxn as clever (x chromosome) but I sure don't get it for trans women -- it seems to me substituting x for y is excluding trans women.
But, like I said, aint up to me. Whatever people want me to call them I'm gonna call them.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Gender Studies I
"Womyn" is mostly Woke Olympics. Used mainly by annoying, TERF-y, man-hating lesbian types. Never seen it with an 'x'.
"Womyn" is mostly Woke Olympics. Used mainly by annoying, TERF-y, man-hating lesbian types. Never seen it with an 'x'.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Gender Studies I
Meh, womyn has been around forever. It started out as Andrea Dworkin braid your leg hair types but now it's established in (turn on echo machine) The Academy, and I'm fine with it. Like queer being appropriated by LGBT as a protest/pride thing.
Meh, womyn has been around forever. It started out as Andrea Dworkin braid your leg hair types but now it's established in (turn on echo machine) The Academy, and I'm fine with it. Like queer being appropriated by LGBT as a protest/pride thing.
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”The term explicitly includes femme/feminine-identifying genderqueer and non-binary individuals.”
You know what other word includes them? Women.
How is this stuff ever going to seem normal if we keep making up special (separate but equal) words for it?
”The term explicitly includes femme/feminine-identifying genderqueer and non-binary individuals.”
You know what other word includes them? Women.
How is this stuff ever going to seem normal if we keep making up special (separate but equal) words for it?
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Russell Jaslow
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Re: Gender Studies I
In Pittsburgh, they say "yins." (And who knows if I'm spelling it correctly.)
In Pittsburgh, they say "yins." (And who knows if I'm spelling it correctly.)
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Gender Studies I
In my opinion, for what it is worth as a straight cis white male (I don't mean that ironically, I am the last person on Earth with skin in this game so I am not at all to be taken seriously here) is that in the early stages of a social revolution "normality" may be the enemy of progress. Certainly the end goal is acceptance -- to remove the baseline of privilege from say straight, or cis. But starting from a dominance hierarchy the idea of "normality" -- of being value-free -- only reinforces the present order. So being deliberately provocative and forcing people to actually re-examine how they are unconsciously thinking is part of how you effectively change people's minds.
If there is truth to that then "womyn" was an effective tool 30 years ago and "womxn" is now.
I'll say this: "Latinx" forces me to think intersectionally. When I see it (and wince) I move from white/brown to boy/girl and associate their struggles for equality. To roll all that meaning up in a word is very effective. Sartre said words are bullets, and that word is powerful ammunition, brought to bear directly on a target.
So, anyway, with the distance of a few days' thought, I begin to like "womxn."
I like "womxyn" even more. It is inclusive (x and y) and it is pronounceable). Also the "mixing" connotation is playful.
Miss T and other females -- whaddya think?
In my opinion, for what it is worth as a straight cis white male (I don't mean that ironically, I am the last person on Earth with skin in this game so I am not at all to be taken seriously here) is that in the early stages of a social revolution "normality" may be the enemy of progress. Certainly the end goal is acceptance -- to remove the baseline of privilege from say straight, or cis. But starting from a dominance hierarchy the idea of "normality" -- of being value-free -- only reinforces the present order. So being deliberately provocative and forcing people to actually re-examine how they are unconsciously thinking is part of how you effectively change people's minds.
If there is truth to that then "womyn" was an effective tool 30 years ago and "womxn" is now.
I'll say this: "Latinx" forces me to think intersectionally. When I see it (and wince) I move from white/brown to boy/girl and associate their struggles for equality. To roll all that meaning up in a word is very effective. Sartre said words are bullets, and that word is powerful ammunition, brought to bear directly on a target.
So, anyway, with the distance of a few days' thought, I begin to like "womxn."
I like "womxyn" even more. It is inclusive (x and y) and it is pronounceable). Also the "mixing" connotation is playful.
Miss T and other females -- whaddya think?
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