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I don't know if old school tech people were replaced as much as they evolved over time to match the new place their careers occupied in society. It's not like if given the choice between just doing what they like, versus doing what they like and getting money/status, anyone would have purposely chosen the former. Put people in tech now in it back in the 60s, they would end up like those in the 60s did; same thing the other way around too. It's just a different environment.
 
French Rage said:
I don't know if old school tech people were replaced as much as they evolved over time to match the new place their careers occupied in society. It's not like if given the choice between just doing what they like, versus doing what they like and getting money/status, anyone would have purposely chosen the former. Put people in tech now in it back in the 60s, they would end up like those in the 60s did; same thing the other way around too. It's just a different environment.
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I disagree completely. I think it's different self-selection -- so different that it's mutually exclusive. Tech was a non-conformist, anti-social, middle finger mindset. Now it's a comfortable, workaday, afford your younger second wife's boobjob mindset.

I'm sure banking was counter-culture, once. As a sector matures the money moves in and the soul is squeezed out. Look at film or music. Always the same.

The first guy to invent the wheel was probably a Sumerian surf punk. Probably got rooked out of the royalties by a priest, too.
 
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This alludes to it. Reading through the Comments is also an incredible indictment of how tech went from a refuge for lonely, interesting, rebellious people to being as much a salary magnet for boring, entitled as-sholes as law or finance.

The Social Network also showed this, although I don't think it meant to. There is a reason tech billionaire as-swipes like Bezos, Zuckerberg, Moskovitz, Spiegel are the way they are.
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One of my brother in law's best friends from high school was a real estate lawyer in the Bay Area. His wife, who was also a lawyer, was one of the first 250 or so employees at Facebook.

She said the atmosphere there was like a frat house. She was rich, young, and very attractive and did lots of partying with the Facebookers.

Anyway, she was probably at least 5 years younger than my BIL's friend, and closer in age to the tech bros. She ended up leaving him for someone from work.
 
Woof.

A hate crimes bill in South Carolina no longer protects gay or transgender people after a Republican leader said including them would likely lead members of his party to withdraw their support.

A House subcommittee on Thursday passed an amendment removing sexual orientation, creed, gender, age and ancestry from the bill. The measure now includes just six protected groups, all of which have long been included in federal law: race, color, religion, sex, national origin and physical or mental disability.
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62 years ago.

History doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.
 
Advice on helping right now, from someone who's had her boots on the ground for 3 years (CW: I will be using hockey analogies poorly):

Stuff like suggesting court packing and telling those in afflicted areas to simply "move" is like yelling "shoot" on the powerplay. You're basically announcing "I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON AND I AM PROUD OF IT!"

Drop the "savior" complex. Pitying me won't help. I've encountered a fair share of those who think I'm always to be treated like "you poor thing." Those who say "you poor thing" are those who also step over homeless people on the way to brunch. Lose the ego.

Best way to help: little things. Goals don't get scored without someone helping to dig out pucks on the boards, putting hits on someone, blocking shots with your body, or starting a fight after something awful happens to the star.

I've learned I can't mute Republicans, but I can implement a planned ignorance strategy.
 
I know not all men, but I don't know WHICH men. And the good ones don't call out the bad ones.

That's why I treat cisgender males like they're more radioactive than Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Three Mile Island combined.
 
Hell in a handbasket.

Arkansas legislature passes bill to allow EMTs & doctors to refuse to treat LGBTQ people
The bill to allow health care providers to turn away patients due to their religious beliefs is headed to the Republican governor's desk.

They're not going to fucking stop trying to expel, jail or kill anyone that doesn't look and act like they do.
 
How are doctors licensed, could they lose professional credit/acceptance similar to lawyers and the Bar Association? It seems like this would fly in the face of their professional ethics.
 
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How are doctors licensed, could they lose professional credit/acceptance similar to lawyers and the Bar Association? It seems like this would fly in the face of their professional ethics.
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By state. And most of the state boards are cowards that allow bullshit on this level to happen so I would not count on them to have a backbone. Most of the docs who would do something this unethical are likely part of fringe professional societies like the AAPS so its not like they would be sanctioned from that end either.
 
So I just found out a couple days ago that my cousin's husband is leaving her and their 5-year-old son after 15 years of marriage because he is bisexual, wants to have sex with men outside of the marriage, and that is a deal-breaker for her. I don't know if I can ever understand decisions like this.

I'm a heterosexual guy who, sure, has openly joked about my "hall pass list" with my wife, so it's not exactly a secret that I've at least thought about sex with other people. But it is comically easy for me to put those thoughts aside and choose to be faithful to my wife and children. I actively choose not to have sex with other women (ok, let's be honest - I choose not to pursue it. The choice not to have it would probably be *theirs*!). Is it somehow different, harder, for a bisexual person to choose not to have sex with other women and men? Is eschewing homosexual sex some sort of existential crisis for a bisexual person? Or is this actually the hedonistic, selfish decision that it appears to be to me?
 
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So I just found out a couple days ago that my cousin's husband is leaving her and their 5-year-old son after 15 years of marriage because he is bisexual, wants to have sex with men outside of the marriage, and that is a deal-breaker for her. I don't know if I can ever understand decisions like this.

I'm a heterosexual guy who, sure, has openly joked about my "hall pass list" with my wife, so it's not exactly a secret that I've at least thought about sex with other people. But it is comically easy for me to put those thoughts aside and choose to be faithful to my wife and children. I actively choose not to have sex with other women (ok, let's be honest - I choose not to pursue it. The choice not to have it would probably be *theirs*!). Is it somehow different, harder, for a bisexual person to choose not to have sex with other women and men? Is eschewing homosexual sex some sort of existential crisis for a bisexual person? Or is this actually the hedonistic, selfish decision that it appears to be to me?
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This is something I have sorta seen among some non-hetero people in that they use being non-hetero as an excuse to take part in hedonistic behaviors. I'll agree that your situation is no different from the guy leaving the 15 year marriage to be with another woman. It's EXACTLY the same and just as wrong, hurtful, and insensitive. Being LGBTQ is not a free pass to be an asshole.
 
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So I just found out a couple days ago that my cousin's husband is leaving her and their 5-year-old son after 15 years of marriage because he is bisexual, wants to have sex with men outside of the marriage, and that is a deal-breaker for her. I don't know if I can ever understand decisions like this.
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He's checked out of the marriage. Now, finding yourself suddenly as having a totally different sexual identity may do that, I can't judge. And we're long past the days of saying a marriage is irrevocable and you can never repent of it. It sucks but it certainly happens.

I'm not gonna throw stones here since I don't know the people, but I sympathize with everybody involved. It must be jarring and emotionally terrible for all of them. It sounds like each of the parents has agency and is exercising it, so, yay... I guess? We can all think of much worse outcomes (he stays and cheats, he bullies her into accepting it, she bullies him into suppressing it, they stay together in a loveless marriage "for the child," etc).
 
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The America I'd like to see:
"Dear Valued Customer:

This is your internet service provider. We recently noticed you made homophobic and transphobic comments, so we've blocked you from seeing gay, lesbian, and transgender porn.

Have a wonderful day and thanks for choosing Xfinity!"
 
With anti-trans legislation sweeping across the South, I want to get the kids and their families out and visit bodily harm on the lawmakers that passed those bills.
 
With the FSM as my witness, I do not understand how anyone could contemplate a transgender 14-year-old and have any other response than the deepest empathy, compassion, kindness, and love. 14 sucked for most *CIS* kids - I cannot fathom trying to navigate the sewers of adolescence with that burden around your neck.

Ah, but their Sky Master (whose greatest commandment was, "love everyone") apparently told them to hate certain people, so it's all good.
 
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