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Frozen Four ticket location

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CLS said:
Because pgb would ask anyway, what was the priority of the three that were accepted and the one that wasn't?
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Appreciate the assist.;) Thanks also to Jrman for the follow-up replay.

There's still plenty of time to post your location; I post my summary shortly after the completion of the tournament. If you were rejected in the lottery, we certainly want to know about that as well. And yes, in all cases, please post your priority number or your best guess.
 
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A question for next year...
I have never had the opportunity to go to a Frozen Four, so I am a priority 0, what are my chances of getting tickets in the lottery for Tampa in 2012?
 
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P12 - 3 tickets - Section 113, Row 18

For comparison: 2002 – 4 tickets – Section 104, last row

Sean
 
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NMUFAN21 said:
A question for next year...
I have never had the opportunity to go to a Frozen Four, so I am a priority 0, what are my chances of getting tickets in the lottery for Tampa in 2012?
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No guarantees, but I would think your odds of getting tickets would be excellent. Conversely, odds are that your tickets will be in the upper bowl.

This year's demand for lottery seats was the weakest in the 10 year run of the current system. It's hard to imagine the number of lottery applications actually rising when the tourney is shifting to a very non-traditional market. Is the economy really going to get that much better before the end of May?

For the sake of argument, let's say that demand holds roughly constant -- an assumption that seems more than optimistic. But if the demand level holds up, then this year's results should be a reasonably good guide to next year's.

Next, suppose demand dips further, even if only a little. In that case, everyone who applies gets seats. The only downside from the newcomer's point of view is that repeat customers will likely claim all of the tickets in the Priority Lottery. Someone with no priority points won't realize success until the General Lottery stage -- meaning upper bowl.

Will the tournament in Tampa eventually sell out? Quite possibly so. The regulars will be there. Some percentage of the Lightning's fan base will have an interest. If tickets are still available a couple of months in advance, then I could imagine casual sports fans stepping up to be part of a big event. And with the right participating schools, the building could fill in a hurry, even at the last minute. But it's hard to imagine college hockey newcomers from Florida clamoring for the right to purchase tickets 11 months in advance.

All that said, St. Louis surprised me; maybe Tampa will too.
 
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Sean Pickett said:
P12 - 3 tickets - Section 113, Row 18

For comparison: 2002 – 4 tickets – Section 104, last row

Sean
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Interesting comparison indeed. It's certainly consistent with both the general pattern and my personal results.

St. Paul treated lottery applicants quite generously back in 2002. I'll admit to hoping for more of the same in 2011. Instead, we were downgraded from great seats to good seats.

Greatly appreciate having your individual-level comparison in the mix. Thanks much.
 
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Section 220 Row 9

Cannot wait! My first ever and I get to see my team play. I didn't think that was going to happen when the tickets were bought last year.
 
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lkenney said:
I can think of worse places to be in early April! I can't wait.
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Couldn't agree more! But the question of ticket demand remains partially indepenent of the tourist appeal factor.

Washington DC hit something of a sweet spot. It was drivable for many, yet also a very attractive April tourist destination. Conversely, Tampa Bay is a remote location from the large majority of the college hockey world. Almost all of those traveling will need to fly. That will cause many to take a year off. Is the tourist appeal of the Tampa/Orlando area so great that it will entirely offset the loss of those taking the one year sabbatical? Time will tell.
 
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pgb-ohio said:
This year's demand for lottery seats was the weakest in the 10 year run of the current system. It's hard to imagine the number of lottery applications actually rising when the tourney is shifting to a very non-traditional market. Is the economy really going to get that much better before the end of May?
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Undoubtedly the economy has something to do with a decrease in ticket sales, but how much can be attributed to the NCAA failing to remind customers of when tickets go on sale and when is the deadline to order? We used to get a postcard or email from the NCAA reminding us that tickets were going on sale.

Us forum readers/posters get reminders posted here by folks at USCHO, but quite a lot of hockey fans do not read the forum, so maybe they forget? Marketing 101... there is no better/easier customer than a repeat customer... NCAA should advertise their merchandise to their loyal customers.

When they stopped sending reminders for FF ticket sales, the economy was very strong and there was probably no lack of new applicants. Now, probably not so many new applicants. If I were them, I'd start getting back in touch with the old customer base. Best chance of success.

Just some thoughts on the subject.
 
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FiveHole12 said:
Undoubtedly the economy has something to do with a decrease in ticket sales, but how much can be attributed to the NCAA failing to remind customers of when tickets go on sale and when is the deadline to order? We used to get a postcard or email from the NCAA reminding us that tickets were going on sale.

Us forum readers/posters get reminders posted here by folks at USCHO, but quite a lot of hockey fans do not read the forum, so maybe they forget? Marketing 101... there is no better/easier customer than a repeat customer... NCAA should advertise their merchandise to their loyal customers.

When they stopped sending reminders for FF ticket sales, the economy was very strong and there was probably no lack of new applicants. Now, probably not so many new applicants. If I were them, I'd start getting back in touch with the old customer base. Best chance of success.

Just some thoughts on the subject.
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Well with UMD and UND in the game tickets seem to be going fast.
 
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pgb-ohio said:
Couldn't agree more! But the question of ticket demand remains partially indepenent of the tourist appeal factor.

Washington DC hit something of a sweet spot. It was drivable for many, yet also a very attractive April tourist destination. Conversely, Tampa Bay is a remote location from the large majority of the college hockey world. Almost all of those traveling will need to fly. That will cause many to take a year off. Is the tourist appeal of the Tampa/Orlando area so great that it will entirely offset the loss of those taking the one year sabbatical? Time will tell.
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Another interesting data point is Anaheim. It's also an attractive tourist destination that most need to fly to, but the flying doesn't kill a whole day. Also weren't they still doing separate admission on Thursday, so flying on Thursday wasn't an option even flying west and starting out early in the morning?

I'm probably betraying a personal bias here, but I wonder if the venue last year affected the demand this year. Some folks had a less than ideal experience, and some folks who boycotted may have decided they could live without it. I know one thing that motivates me to apply to the next year's lottery is the enjoyment I get from last year's FF.
 
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With the 2011 FF tickets now in hand and the tournament set to begin in less than two weeks, I thought you might be interested to see the historical record of ticket price inflation for the Frozen Four that has taken place during my attendance run. Here's my annual report:

1976 $13.50 (D. U. Arena, Denver)

1980 $24.00 (Providence Civic Center)
[This was the 1st time there was a
price difference between the
semifinals ($6 each), conso ($5) and
the championship game ($7) tickets]

1982 $25.00 (Providence Civic Center)
[semis: $6 each; conso: $5; champ: $8]

1986 $36.00 (Providence Civic Center)

1988 $33.00 (Olympic Center, Lake Placid)

1991 $75.00 (St. Paul Civic Center)

1993 $60.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

1995 $75.00 (Providence Civic Center)

1996 $69.50 (Cincinnati Riverfront Coliseum)
[semis: $22 each; champ: $25.50]

1997 $75.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

1998 $90.00 (FleetCenter, Boston) [semis: $25 each; champ: $40]

1999 $90.00 (Arrowhead Pond, Anaheim) [semis: $27.50 each; champ: $35]

2000 $110.00 (Providence Civic Center) [semis: $35 each; champ: $40

2001 $85.00 (Pepsi Arena, Albany) [semis: $25 each; champ: $35]

2002 $124.50 (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

2003 $120.00 (HSBC Arena, Buffalo)

2004 $135.00 (FleetCenter, Boston)

2005 $147.00 (Shottenstein Center, Columbus)

2006 $150.00 (Bradley Center, Milwaukee)

2007 $155.00 (Scottrade Center, St. Louis)

2008 $164.00 (Pepsi Center, Denver)

2009 $177.00 (Verizon Center, Washington, DC)

2010 $189.00/ (Ford Field, Detroit)
$170.00/$119.00/$79.00/$40.00

2011 $195.00 (Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul)

2012 ??? (St. Pete Times Forum, Tampa)

Still, everything considered, compared to NC$$ FF roundball (not to mention BC$ oblongball) tickets, it's difficult to claim that we don't enjoy bargain prices for our three-game national championship series.
 
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CLS said:
Another interesting data point is Anaheim. It's also an attractive tourist destination that most need to fly to, but the flying doesn't kill a whole day. Also weren't they still doing separate admission on Thursday, so flying on Thursday wasn't an option even flying west and starting out early in the morning?
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I believe you're correct. We went for most of a week back in '99, and had already been in SoCal prior to the gamedays. So the Thursday format wasn't really an issue for our flight. But I think that the separate ticket format was the norm until 2007 in St. Louis.

I'm probably betraying a personal bias here, but I wonder if the venue last year affected the demand this year. Some folks had a less than ideal experience, and some folks who boycotted may have decided they could live without it. I know one thing that motivates me to apply to the next year's lottery is the enjoyment I get from last year's FF.
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No bias here; you're absolutely correct. Or, maybe we just share a bias.;) Either way, this point is going to get a prominent place in my summary.
 
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pgb-ohio said:
Couldn't agree more! But the question of ticket demand remains partially indepenent of the tourist appeal factor.

Washington DC hit something of a sweet spot. It was drivable for many, yet also a very attractive April tourist destination. Conversely, Tampa Bay is a remote location from the large majority of the college hockey world. Almost all of those traveling will need to fly. That will cause many to take a year off. Is the tourist appeal of the Tampa/Orlando area so great that it will entirely offset the loss of those taking the one year sabbatical? Time will tell.
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As I sit here looking at yet another snow storm in the northeast, in April no less, the thought of a Frozen Four in Tampa has lots of appeal for me. :D
 
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Any idea where the fans of the 4 teams will be placed? More importantly the bands, please tell me Michigan's band is no where near our seats.
 
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Badgers1 said:
Any idea where the fans of the 4 teams will be placed? More importantly the bands, please tell me Michigan's band is no where near our seats.
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Fans are in four lower-bowl corner sections (ND's includes 114).

Bands have been in different places for different Frozen Fours. I'm not sure we'll actually know where Xcel puts them until we show up, unless you inquire with one of the participating schools or with the Xcel.
 
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