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Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

pgb, what do you anticipate for a market for the Pittsburgh FF this year? Are seats going to be a dime a dozen on the street (Buffalo, Columbus) or will they be a tough ticket to get?

Just curious.
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

pgb, what do you anticipate for a market for the Pittsburgh FF this year? Are seats going to be a dime a dozen on the street (Buffalo, Columbus) or will they be a tough ticket to get?

Just curious.

interestingly, i have friends with pens season tickets. they received nothing with an offer to buy tickets (as of yet).
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

pgb, what do you anticipate for a market for the Pittsburgh FF this year? Are seats going to be a dime a dozen on the street (Buffalo, Columbus) or will they be a tough ticket to get?

Just curious.
I can tell you the market for luxury seats is weird. I still haven't gotten any info yet, and I'm at the top of the waiting list. Someone is selling a suite on Stub Hub for $1412/ticket. That's the only suite/luxury seat etc I have seen so far. Last year I already had a private suite reserved for Tampa. Can't tell if they are focusing on corporate partners or what. It obviously isn't Penguin season ticket holders...
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

The ASU club teams plays in a ~500 seater pos barn, so I think not.

Oh...

I was actually joking. I think the arena is like 20 minutes out of the city at least. I feel like it would be a horrible choice. Looking on Google there's only a manufactured downtown area with a couple hotels and some chain restaurants around the arena, which is actually in Glendale. Plus judging by the fan base the Coyotes have Phoenix is where hockey culture goes to die.

Though in the ACHA to NCAA thread there was some talk about how either ASU or UA, or both, had great support for their club teams. I guess one of them could host like Navy did in DC.
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

pgb, what do you anticipate for a market for the Pittsburgh FF this year? Are seats going to be a dime a dozen on the street (Buffalo, Columbus) or will they be a tough ticket to get?

Just curious.
As always, it will make a great deal of difference who the participating teams are. So we won't really have a good idea until the regionals are complete. Not to belabor the obvious, but schools like Quinnipiac and St. Cloud have smaller fanbases than UND or BC. All four teams will sell out their official allotments, regardless of who qualifies. But demand in the secondary market varies widely, depending on the teams.

In any event, it won't be like Buffalo or Columbus. The main reason is that lottery participants are now much more adept at avoiding being caught with extras. Fewer purchases are being made, and a higher percentage of those purchases are being made by those who plan on attending no matter what. In the bad old days, people purchased tickets in the lottery thinking it was a win-win. If my team makes it, great, I'm making the trip; If my team doesn't qualify, no problem, I'll sell the tickets and possibly make a profit. The latter didn't happen nearly often enough to satisfy the speculators. For the most part, they've left the lottery. Other variables:

Local Factor: I do believe and predict that Pittsburgh locals will support the event. It will likely be more akin to St. Louis than Buffalo or Columbus in that regard. Couple that with good support from the usual Frozen Four fan base, and it might be a little tougher ticket than is sometimes the case.

Car Enthusiasts: Remember that the "I have to drive or I can't go" crowd didn't make it to Tampa. That's the main reason we fell a little short of a sellout last year. Pittsburgh, in contrast, is drivable for lots of us. It wouldn't surprise me if some "pent-up demand" causes an uptick in overall demand.

Geography: Regardless of the participating teams, it's very unlikely that one fanbase will take over the arena, as can happen in Boston, St. Paul or Milwaukee. And yet because Pittsburgh is relatively accessible, we're likely to see good representation from multiple fanbases. Translation? Medium level of demand.

Wild Card: At least back in the day, it was illegal to sell tickets for more than face value in Pittsburgh. That law may very well have changed. In fact I'm assuming that it has, since the official resale website had premium seats at prices that seemingly had to be above face value. If someone has definitive knowledge of what the scalping law currently is (or isn't) in Pitt, please post that information. That certainly has an impact on supply, demand and selling prices.


Bottom Line? The market will probably wind up looking similar to Denver or DC. Solid sellouts, a somewhat limited supply of tickets, but manageable prices.


EDIT: As for the luxury seats mentioned by Priceless, I can only say those are highly unlikely to go to Frozen Four regulars. Maybe some lightly informed, but well funded, alums will take the plunge at those prices. Maybe.
 
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Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

Wild Card: At least back in the day, it was illegal to sell tickets for more than face value in Pittsburgh. That law may very well have changed. In fact I'm assuming that it has, since the official resale website had premium seats at prices that seemingly had to be above face value. If someone has definitive knowledge of what the scalping law currently is (or isn't) in Pitt, please post that information. That certainly has an impact on supply, demand and selling prices.
That is illegal in many places (New York State, for one). That doesn't seem to stop scalping unless there is a police officer standing nearby. There are regular scalpers at games/shows here in Western New York all the time.
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

pgb, what do you anticipate for a market for the Pittsburgh FF this year? Are seats going to be a dime a dozen on the street (Buffalo, Columbus) or will they be a tough ticket to get?

Just curious.

you better not sell your seats to a couple of *****holes, I am in the seats right behind you....

and really, we both know BC will go on their run to get there, so you might as well buck up and get wifey used to the idea that your spending a fun filled weekend in pittsburgh....
 
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I feel like a city in the west will have the Frozen Four in 2015
possible locations
Denver
Milwaukee
Chicago
Omaha

I think 2016/2017 could be anywhere in the country
Nashville
Boston
Miami ( Like Tampa Bay plus Miami is a great city)
San Antonio ( They have bid in the past to get one)
Buffalo
Detroit
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

no on boston.
where is the miami game going to be? ice isn't downtown.
 
I feel like a city in the west will have the Frozen Four in 2015
possible locations
Denver
Milwaukee
Chicago
Omaha

I think 2016/2017 could be anywhere in the country
Nashville
Boston
Miami ( Like Tampa Bay plus Miami is a great city)
San Antonio ( They have bid in the past to get one)
Buffalo
Detroit

Maybe MSG would be a good location. NYC is relatively accessable to most of the Eastern teams
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

Wild Card: At least back in the day, it was illegal to sell tickets for more than face value in Pittsburgh. That law may very well have changed.
There is no price printed on the 2013 tickets, therefore, no face value?
 
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When do they announce these things? They don't seem have a regular time of the year that they announce them.
 
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Re: DC- I actually talked to George McPhee either last year or the year before and he said DC was planning to bid again. No idea if that's still the plan, but I don't see why they wouldn't.
 
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I'd sign up for Denver again in the west & DC in the east

Yes to both. Denver was great. DC is obviously a homerun city to have this event as well. Tampa was great. Those have to be in a rotation of some sort.

I'm up for trying Nashville. Think we need to get this to Chicago next and see how that goes.
 
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Anybody who thinks a FF should be in Omaha, Detroit, Cincinnati, Buffalo, or any other boring or run down sh ! t hole needs to be immediately transferred to Gitmo. Pittsburgh is bad enough, but as some new D-1 programs have started up in the vicinity in recent years I can cut it some slack. Just don't go back there again as 2 days in the place will allow you to see everything the city has to offer.

Ultimate FF = New Orleans baby! That event would sell out even if the finals were Canisius-AIC-Bentley-Alabama Huntsville. :D
 
Re: Frozen Four 2015 Where do we go from here?

Wild Card: At least back in the day, it was illegal to sell tickets for more than face value in Pittsburgh. That law may very well have changed. In fact I'm assuming that it has, since the official resale website had premium seats at prices that seemingly had to be above face value. If someone has definitive knowledge of what the scalping law currently is (or isn't) in Pitt, please post that information. That certainly has an impact on supply, demand and selling prices.

If you sell them through a reseller that provides refunds for cancelled games, there is no cap. Just selling them outside of the arena, I believe the cap is $5 or 25%, whichever is larger.

They had a "resell" zone for both of the stadiums on the North Shore, but I don't think they ever implemented that for Consol.
 
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