Frozen 4 site selections?

[sterlippo1]

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Cos LA is a better destination than Vancouver? LOL ... ok. .

Yeah, it is a better destination than Vancouver X1000. No offense to Vancouver, it's a great city but it ain't LA as a destination, not even close. I dont support a FF in LA though .

 

[COHockey]

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I checked up on the area around the United Center. It is not in a "bad" area. In 2010, it was named the "worst" neighborhood for crime in the country. That was a few years back so I'm sure it's like Disneyland now.

Wow. Not even close. Not even the "worst" neighborhood for crime where tourists may go. Both baseball stadiums are worse than that, Wrigley has it interesting in one direction. Comiskey has it very interesting in three directions and just interesting in one. Chicago is not in the same league as Detroit. Chicago is an awesome city.

The only downside of Chicago is the location of the United Center is not near downtown. This is what everyone will be doing: they will be staying with relatives, in the burbs, or downtown. They will do their touristy things and either drive or cab it to the United Center for the games, and drive out when the games are over. The L is not exactly close, but some was completely correct that its about 10 minutes and half is through a gigantic parking lot. My only fear is that there will be not enough taxis waiting after the game. That is my only downside. It will affect only those cabbing it. And probably only those who waited around 10 minutes before leaving the venue.

Pick most locations tourists will be staying, and I could name some awesome places to eat and go nearby. Heck, I can name at least a dozen good eats in Naperville if you want.

I am getting excited about Chicago. Too bad Tampa was not in 2015, I'd prefer that (actually note to NCAA: Tampa every odd year).

 

[Art VanDelay]

Too bad Tampa was not in 2015, I'd prefer that (actually note to NCAA: Tampa every odd year).

THIS! I like the idea of making the FF a destination and celebration of a great season. Sending it to a warm weather location is perfect. Much like the Rose Bowl was for the PAC-10 and Big Ten back on the day.

 

[ericredaxe]

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Not to mention, if we're going to go to Canada, wouldn't Toronto be the most logical choice? Close geography, Hockey Hall of Fame, downtown arena, plenty to do, etc.?

I was thinking exactly this as I have been reading the posts re: Canada.

With no NCAA teams in Canada though, I don't ever see it happening. Ever.

 

[aparch]

So basically there's black people in the area around the United Center, got it.

No one mentioned race. I know I wasn't eluding to it either. All I'm saying is that just west of the UC is where some meth-head, sh**head gangbangers who like busting car windows and stealing crap when you're 300' up the street live.

Stupidity has no color in those neighborhoods.

 

[aparch]

The only downside of Chicago is the location of the United Center is not near downtown. This is what everyone will be doing: they will be staying with relatives, in the burbs, or downtown. They will do their touristy things and either drive or cab it to the United Center for the games, and drive out when the games are over. The L is not exactly close, but some was completely correct that its about 10 minutes and half is through a gigantic parking lot. My only fear is that there will be not enough taxis waiting after the game. That is my only downside. It will affect only those cabbing it. And probably only those who waited around 10 minutes before leaving the venue.

Pick most locations tourists will be staying, and I could name some awesome places to eat and go nearby. Heck, I can name at least a dozen good eats in Naperville if you want.

I am getting excited about Chicago. Too bad Tampa was not in 2015, I'd prefer that (actually note to NCAA: Tampa every odd year).

Exactly. There is plenty to do, just don't go "wandering the area" around the arena that fans have been able to do in other cities.


And what are your Naperville recomendations? Looking for some new haunts after moving there from St. Charles.

 

[Rover]

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Clearly you've never been to Omaha. Tons of great local restaurants, it seems like Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives has been there a million times. I would love Omaha as a host, I have really enjoyed the time I've spent there, but I'm guessing since they host a much larger NCAA Championship event and the arena is just a touch too small, that they won't even bother to ever bid. The College World Series involves twice as many schools, almost all of which are BCS conference teams (ie most have large alumni bases), 5x as many games, and all games in recent years have averaged 20,000+. The Frozen Four would seem like small potatoes compared to that.

I like the Cities chosen and hope that I'm in a place where I can attend in Chicago and St. Paul.

They don't call it flyover country for nothing. Corn country is butt boring and most of us don't want to get sacraficed to some corn God.

I do have to laugh about how the event isn't big enough for the teeming metropolis that is Omaha. Apparently its good enough for Chicago and New York....but not Omaha. Oooookaaayyyyyy......

 

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I was thinking exactly this as I have been reading the posts re: Canada.

With no NCAA teams in Canada though, I don't ever see it happening. Ever.

Some suggestions seem to assume that the NCAA places the FF wherever it wants to. It doesn't. It selects from bids that are submitted. Why would Vancouver ever want to submit a bid? They're not just sitting there with an arena that's empty in early April. They would have to comply with NCAA restrictions. I believe (haven't checked) they fill the arena for pretty much every home game, and they can sell all the beer they want. Now why would they inconvenience their local NHL franchise for an event with no local flavor, no team within a few thousand miles, and iffy attendance?

I'd love to visit Vancouver, but there's a lot more to being a serious consideration for a FF than just being a nice town, even a nice generic hockey town.

No one mentioned race. I know I wasn't eluding to it either. All I'm saying is that just west of the UC is where some meth-head, sh**head gangbangers who like busting car windows and stealing crap when you're 300' up the street live.

Stupidity has no color in those neighborhoods.

I didn't want to feed the race bait troll, but shortly after the subject was brought up, there was a racial incident at the United Center that I thought was a sign of progress in a strange way. There was a fight between a black man and a white man. On the ice. Between two players.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Absolutely if this was going to happen in Canada it would be in Toronto.

Anyway, this thread got more entertaining with an astonishingly dumb idea and their constant defending of said idea. Continue.

 

[jmh]

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Mostly local fans make up that crowd. But the FF fans are tough. We survived Detroit.

Speaking of which, talk about overblown concerns about a "bad area". If the area around the United Center is anything like downtown Detroit then there's really nothing for anyone to worry about.

Uh, ask 100 people on the street which they'd like to visit in April, southern California or Vancouver.

That's a pretty skewed question. Ask 100 hockey fans where they'd rather go to watch a hockey tournament and I bet you'd get a different answer.

Denver has been 2000 miles east of me for the last 30 years ... but yes, my bad ... it's definitely in the Middle Western part of the U.S. so I should have included it.

Minneapolis in in the Middle Western part of the US. Denver is in the West.

 

[Stack]

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So they dropped the prohibition on on-campus arenas for regionals and lowered the required seating capacity for them as well?

Brad Schlossman article from the Grand Forks and most college hcokey fans presepctive on awarding the Regional to Notre Dame's campus.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/280110/

 

[BU2K]

Vancouver wouldn't be as Rogers Arena is basically downtown and the area has ALL the amenities demanded by the regular attendees.

And instead of paper helmets the NCAA can hand out fire extinguishers in case the locals don't like the results...

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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This is a remarkably stupid argument.

Yes, Vancouver is an awesome city (was just there in January), their downtown is fantastic and the area around Rogers would be great for an event like this, but I don't see why the NCAA would start holding championships out of country.

LA would probably be alright, but I think we can all understand why the NCAA would choose Florida if they were going to venture outside of college hockey's footprint.

 

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And instead of paper helmets the NCAA can hand out fire extinguishers in case the locals don't like the results...

And if you drive, Roberto Luongo will pump up your tires. One of the Sedin twins will drop the puck for the ceremonial first faceoff and get b***h-slapped by one of the UND Ice Girls.

 

[Art VanDelay]

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I still think that Rogers Arena in Vancouver would be a good place for a Frozen Four. Vancouver is an awesome city by all accounts

Honolulu has a better chance of winning a FF bid than Vancouver.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Honolulu has a better chance of winning a FF bid than Vancouver.

I don't think thats true, not that it matters since neither will bid.

 

[hattrick16]

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THIS! I like the idea of making the FF a destination and celebration of a great season. Sending it to a warm weather location is perfect. Much like the Rose Bowl was for the PAC-10 and Big Ten back on the day.

I have no problems with Tampa. But it's not the same in January as it is in March. When I was there in 2012, it was actually warmer back home in Michigan.

 

[hattrick16]

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I also think Chicago would be a fantastic host for a Midwest Regional. Put it at the Sears Center (11,000) or All State Arena (16,000) or the new Depaul basketball arena once it's built. Great proximity for the NCHC, Big Ten and WCHA (and one school from Hockey East)!

 

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I also think Chicago would be a fantastic host for a Midwest Regional. Put it at the Sears Center (11,000) or All State Arena (16,000) or the new Depaul basketball arena once it's built. Great proximity for the NCHC, Big Ten and WCHA (and one school from Hockey East)!

16,000 is a bit big, but 11,000 is a good size, at least it has been in the east. One of the traditional problems has been conveniently located (if there is such a thing in the west) venues of an appropriate size.

 

[WiscDC]

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I also think Chicago would be a fantastic host for a Midwest Regional. Put it at the Sears Center (11,000) or All State Arena (16,000) or the new Depaul basketball arena once it's built. Great proximity for the NCHC, Big Ten and WCHA (and one school from Hockey East)!

That one might be difficult.