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Frozen 4 site selections?

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Deserved a bid? Did they bid to begin with? Hard to argue with tampa considering it was a huge hit.
 
Disagree with Tampa.
Buffalo and Denver deserved a Bid before Tampa a second time.

Right, give it to Denver when they didn't even make the 10 finalists... if they even submitted a bid at all. I wouldn't doubt that it is a good location, but of the 10 finalists, 3 were/are among the favorites of regular attendees, and the last was a toss up between Chicago and DC by the crowd here.

The NCAA doesn't usually get a lot right, but this is probably one of their better decisions.
 
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I still think that Rogers Arena in Vancouver would be a good place for a Frozen Four. Vancouver is an awesome city by all accounts and it's friggin full of hockey fans. The true west gets snubbed ... I know everyone says Anaheim was a crap tourney but that was southern california in the 90s. Vancouver would be an awesome place for it. UAA and UAF should work together to put in a bid with Vancouver.
 
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I still think that Rogers Arena in Vancouver would be a good place for a Frozen Four. Vancouver is an awesome city by all accounts and it's friggin full of hockey fans. The true west gets snubbed ... I know everyone says Anaheim was a crap tourney but that was southern california in the 90s. Vancouver would be an awesome place for it. UAA and UAF should work together to put in a bid with Vancouver.

This might be the worst idea I've ever heard.
 
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I still think that Rogers Arena in Vancouver would be a good place for a Frozen Four. Vancouver is an awesome city by all accounts and it's friggin full of hockey fans. The true west gets snubbed ... I know everyone says Anaheim was a crap tourney but that was southern california in the 90s. Vancouver would be an awesome place for it. UAA and UAF should work together to put in a bid with Vancouver.

Nope. I'd take LA (Staples Center this time) before going to Canada. Not to mention the number of fans who potentially would not be able to attend due to not having passports.
 
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I think he's on to something. Maybe the memorial cup could be in boston while we're at it. That would go over well in canada ;)
 
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Nope. I'd take LA (Staples Center this time) before going to Canada. Not to mention the number of fans who potentially would not be able to attend due to not having passports.

Cos LA is a better destination than Vancouver? LOL ... ok. Cos passports are so hard to get and take so long? Gee, if the NCAA awarded the tourney to Vancouver .... fans would only have 6 years to get that passport.

Only half of the players in NCAA hockey are Canadians.
 
Cos LA is a better destination than Vancouver? LOL ... ok. Cos passports are so hard to get and take so long? Gee, if the NCAA awarded the tourney to Vancouver .... fans would only have 6 years to get that passport.

Only half of the players in NCAA hockey are Canadians.
Wasn't your school, UAA, the host of the Anaheim (LA area) Frozen Four?
Was that a mistake?
 
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Cos LA is a better destination than Vancouver? LOL ... ok. Cos passports are so hard to get and take so long? Gee, if the NCAA awarded the tourney to Vancouver .... fans would only have 6 years to get that passport.

Only half of the players in NCAA hockey are Canadians.

Uh, ask 100 people on the street which they'd like to visit in April, southern California or Vancouver. Passports are also quite annoying and time consuming to get. Plus, Vancouver is driveable for absolutely 0% of the college hockey fanbase. Not that LA is a good choice for a FF, it's not, but if you're going to choose between the two, LA has to win hands down.
 
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Aside from the fact I would go to Tampa every other year for the Frozen Four I am happy with the choices. I would have enjoyed a return to D.C. but I will take Chicago as I have always enjoyed my visits there. Now that I live in Colorado, Boston means a return home to family and friends in New England so that is good. Otherwise, I would have rather gone somewhere other than Boston because, well simply there are too many Boston fans there. :p
 
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Uh, ask 100 people on the street which they'd like to visit in April, southern California or Vancouver.
Ask 100 hockey fans.

Passports are also quite annoying and time consuming to get.
Well maybe Americans should grow up and join the rest of the world in actually having citizens who own passports. And they take six weeks to get through ANY United States Post Office. As I said, any Frozen Four fans planning to go would have six years.

Plus, Vancouver is driveable for absolutely 0% of the college hockey fanbase.
You have no argument skills. Vancouver is just as "driveable" for the vast percentage of college hockey fans as Tampa. Your preference for L.A. over Vancouver is your own. Others may share it. I do not. Others may share mine. The Frozen Four hasn't been in the western half of this country since Anaheim. Granted there are a crapload more teams in the eastern half than the western half of the USA but once every 20 years isn't much to ask.
 
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Wasn't your school, UAA, the host of the Anaheim (LA area) Frozen Four?
Was that a mistake?

The Anaheim Frozen Four wasn't successful. And yes, UAA was the host. Far from being a mistake though, I'd categorize it as bad risk evaluation. The same might be said for a future Vancouver bid ... but I think the huge numbers of hockey fans in southern B.C. and the large number of Canadian kids playing NCAA hockey would create a full arena. That's the NCAA's measure of success. Fans here who go to every Frozen Four have a different measuring stick. I think Vancouver would satiate them however.
 
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Denver would like to submit an application for citizenship in the western half of the country, because they were apparently left off your list.
 
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Denver would like to submit an application for citizenship in the western half of the country, because they were apparently left off your list.

Denver has been 2000 miles east of me for the last 30 years ... but yes, my bad ... it's definitely in the Middle Western part of the U.S. so I should have included it. Also it's a worse place than Anaheim in terms of having an event that is meaningfully "intense" and fan-centric. Vancouver wouldn't be as Rogers Arena is basically downtown and the area has ALL the amenities demanded by the regular attendees.
 
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Ask 100 hockey fans.


Well maybe Americans should grow up and join the rest of the world in actually having citizens who own passports. And they take six weeks to get through ANY United States Post Office. As I said, any Frozen Four fans planning to go would have six years.


You have no argument skills. Vancouver is just as "driveable" for the vast percentage of college hockey fans as Tampa. Your preference for L.A. over Vancouver is your own. Others may share it. I do not. Others may share mine. The Frozen Four hasn't been in the western half of this country since Anaheim. Granted there are a crapload more teams in the eastern half than the western half of the USA but once every 20 years isn't much to ask.

I don't "prefer" LA over Vancouver, I prefer neither. Both would be horrendous choices as host of the FF. I only brought up LA because you used Anaheim as a comparison in your original post on the issue, and if the FF were to come back to southern California, Staples Center would be the logical choice. Yes, there are many Canadian players, but these are American schools, and both Vancouver and LA are way out on an island with respect to the rest of the college hockey world. At least Tampa is theoretically driveable for some, though I was never big on the idea of Tampa as a good host prior to 2012 based on my experience at the Final Four there in 1999. We can play the passport game, and sure, those without a passport should get one, and probably would, but it'd be another hurdle, it'd be an unnecessarily long and expensive plane ride for everyone going, and while I have no first hand knowledge, my guess is not too many people in Vancouver know what the WCHA is, much less Hockey East or NCHC. Could you say the same about 99.9% of people in LA? Yes, but I don't want it here either! And don't take my location listed under my handle as any sign of my preferences. I'm not an LA fan, in fact, I'm moving out of here in a week. Though as a hockey market in general, it's not too bad. The Kings have a good and loyal following.

Not to mention, if we're going to go to Canada, wouldn't Toronto be the most logical choice? Close geography, Hockey Hall of Fame, downtown arena, plenty to do, etc.?
 
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