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Ford Field Rink Installation

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Chris_NH said:
I don't know why they didn't put the rink down at one end to begin with. I mean, wasn't it a bit presumptuous of the NCAA to think that ALL of the Ford Field stands would be occupied? Even with the plan as it now exists, the NCAA is almost guaranteed to break all NCAA Frozen Four attendance records while making for a more intimate setting than it would otherwise be.

My fear is slow ice due to high ambient temperatures. And, oh yes...any risk of FOG? :eek:
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detroit arenas/stadia>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>newton arenas ;)
 
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Chris_NH said:
What is the likelihood that the normal FF crowd is supplemented somewhat by curious hockey fans from across the river in Ontario? Or are they too consumed with Junior hockey to care about our college product?
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They're all cheering for RIT.
 
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BTW, there are a lot of interesting tours of Detroit that leave from near downtown. The most interesting( to me at least) is a tour of old homes and significant buildings.These have to be booked ahead of time but they are easy to find and fun to do. Detroit is over 300 years old so there are lots of history type things. You can tour on a segway if you want to and there is a bar tour too!
 
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manurespreader said:
BTW, there are a lot of interesting tours of Detroit that leave from near downtown. The most interesting( to me at least) is a tour of old homes and significant buildings.These have to be booked ahead of time but they are easy to find and fun to do. Detroit is over 300 years old so there are lots of history type things. You can tour on a segway if you want to and there is a bar tour too!
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Segways are perfect for bar tours because you can't fall off them :D
 
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The NCAA has for some weeks now, been involved in a test program in secret laboratories around the world to find a way to alleviate hockey fans' fears about sight lines at increasingly more frequent outdoor games and other large venues. As the Frozen Four at Ford Field in Detroit draws near, the test schedule was upped to 24/7.

The following photos were leaked by the NCAA in an attempt to allay fan's worries and accelerate ticket sales now that the four teams have been determined.

In the first photo, taken with a clandestine iPhone, shows intensive goalie testing of the new "large venue" net that will make its debut at the Frozen Four.

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Somewhat later, they made the decision to test the new nets with shooters.

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Since the NCAA has always found officiating to be problematic in playoff games, they took the opportunity to "restripe" the on-ice officials. Shown below is an unnamed CHA referee who has been involved with testing the new gear since the CHA Conference Finals in the NCAA's outdoor test facility in northern Scandinavia.

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Once the installation of the 2010 Frozen Four rink began, testing has been moved into Ford Field. In another show of good faith to regular Frozen Four attendees who complain about the repetitive NCAA promotional videos during the innumerable TV timeouts, the FFFF will feature live speedskating not only during timeout and intermissions in lieu of the videos, but the playing of the games as well.

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The NCAA is expected early next week to announce ticket price increases for the remaining FFFF tickets in order to offset the costs of its crash research program.
 
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Don't forget the Detroit Historical Museum across the street from the DIA. It has a special on 5 great Detroit coaches including Scotty Bowman. Maybe you've heard of him.
 
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The Plymouth (Detroit suburb) Whalers are playing the Windsor Spitfires in the playoffs next week. Their series (best of 7) plays Thursday/Saturday...that's too bad because there is some excellent hockey played by these two clubs.


And yes, the. Detroit Historical Museum is really cool, even if you know nothing about Detroit. They have part of an automobile factory in there too! Lol
 
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Ok I've read 6 pages of pro's and con's of having the Frozen Four at Ford Field. I've already accepted that this years Frozen Four is an experiment, and I'll reserve judgement until April 12th.
I've read several people say how having the Frozen Four at Ford Field will help expand college hockey because its in a large facility. Also someone mentioned about the Frozen Four being held in 15K seat arena's isn't good, I don't disagree with this but I think the last time the Frozen Four was in a facility that small was 2001 in Albany or 2000 in Providence.
My question is how will this help expand college hockey? Let's take University of Illinois for example. Uof Illinois has a club team that plays at the top club division. How will this years Frozen Four help Illinois move its club team to the D1 level? I don't see the Uof Illinois AD saying hey look they had 30K fans at Ford Field lets start a hockey program.
 
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My question is how will this help expand college hockey? Let's take University of Illinois for example. Uof Illinois has a club team that plays at the top club division. How will this years Frozen Four help Illinois move its club team to the D1 level? I don't see the Uof Illinois AD saying hey look they had 30K fans at Ford Field lets start a hockey program.
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Thats been my point the entire time. Seems like a "stunt" to me designed to generate publicity and stats ("look how many (cheap and badly located) seats we've sold!").

The big question is how does holding the FF in a non-traditional (i.e. a location that doesn't have college hockey in existence, or in a venue like a football field) going to help it "expand"? I think it's just something they're trying as an experiment, but it will fail completely to do so in either case.
 
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HockeyMan2000 said:
Thats been my point the entire time. Seems like a "stunt" to me designed to generate publicity and stats ("look how many (cheap and badly located) seats we've sold!").

The big question is how does holding the FF in a non-traditional (i.e. a location that doesn't have college hockey in existence, or in a venue like a football field) going to help it "expand"? I think it's just something they're trying as an experiment, but it will fail completely to do so in either case.
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Obviously, I am biased, but I think that last year's FF in DC was a success, and DC doesn't have a college hockey team. In the long run, it will help college hockey expand, perhaps not in getting new teams but in getting kids interested in playing.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Obviously, I am biased, but I think that last year's FF in DC was a success, and DC doesn't have a college hockey team. In the long run, it will help college hockey expand, perhaps not in getting new teams but in getting kids interested in playing.
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As an example - here's a quick quiz. Name the only regional sports channel to pick up every NCAA Regional game available for syndication?

The answer? MASN - the channel for DC, Baltimore and the like. What are the chances they would have done that if they didn't have the FF last year, and or want the FF again down the line? Now, I watched MASN on Dish, but think of the odd kid in DC who thinks hockey is neat, and just happened to tune in for that 2ot SCSU/NMU game and get hooked.

Not that this has anything to do with playing in a football stadium...
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Obviously, I am biased, but I think that last year's FF in DC was a success, and DC doesn't have a college hockey team. In the long run, it will help college hockey expand, perhaps not in getting new teams but in getting kids interested in playing.
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It's not just about adding new teams...before you can do that you have to grow the number of fans that are following the games in the current markets. By opening the Frozen Four to more casual sports fans at a reasonable price you increase the chances of drawing their attention as a full-time fan. In doing this you produce revenue for the sport and THAT gives the incentive down the line for new teams to join. It's not something that can be measured in a short time frame, but over many years.

Think about it...50 years ago there were MAYBE 6,000 people at the national championship games? Over time that number began to expand. Now we regularly see 18,000 for the Frozen Four. It is something like this that will help grow the sport starting with fans and then down the line maybe help create new programs.
 
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STATEdude3 said:
It's not just about adding new teams...before you can do that you have to grow the number of fans that are following the games in the current markets. By opening the Frozen Four to more casual sports fans at a reasonable price you increase the chances of drawing their attention as a full-time fan. In doing this you produce revenue for the sport and THAT gives the incentive down the line for new teams to join. It's not something that can be measured in a short time frame, but over many years.

Think about it...50 years ago there were MAYBE 6,000 people at the national championship games? Over time that number began to expand. Now we regularly see 18,000 for the Frozen Four. It is something like this that will help grow the sport starting with fans and then down the line maybe help create new programs.
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Actually I went to the FF at Lake Placid which was about 40 years ago. The arena was a real old barn which seated about 3000, of which about 2000 were sold I believe. This was the Ken Dryden era too.
Anyone who wanted to could walk up and buy a ticket the day of the event. This was with Clarkson in the FF which is located nearby. There were loads of freebies given away as well. Not the same now.
 
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JD Doe said:
On the contrary, it's going to be a short walk to the locker rooms.

If you look at that picture, the locker rooms are in the tunnel to the lower left of the picture.

And I guess I am ok with the walk that may be ahead of us sitting higher up in Risers 01 through 05 to get down and back up to the concourse... regardless, the place is going to be sweet, and it will be a good, good time!
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it is still a long walk.. i believe there were complaints by many players during the ncaa bball final 4 at Ford Field with the distance from the court to the locker rooms and also the fact they have to go up a minihill as they walk back to the locker room..not that anyone should complain since most teams wish they were at the final four, but nonetheless, the complaints were made..
 
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RIT4life said:
it is still a long walk.. i believe there were complaints by many players during the ncaa bball final 4 at Ford Field with the distance from the court to the locker rooms and also the fact they have to go up a minihill as they walk back to the locker room..not that anyone should complain since most teams wish they were at the final four, but nonetheless, the complaints were made..
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Here is the secret to that tunnel...there is an incline of about 40 degrees just underneath the stands. It's not a short ramp either. After playing a brutal 20 minutes of hockey they will have to work even harder to get to their locker room!
 
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STATEdude3 said:
Here is the secret to that tunnel...there is an incline of about 40 degrees just underneath the stands. It's not a short ramp either. After playing a brutal 20 minutes of hockey they will have to work even harder to get to their locker room!
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my point exactly
 
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STATEdude3 said:
Here is the secret to that tunnel...there is an incline of about 40 degrees just underneath the stands. It's not a short ramp either. After playing a brutal 20 minutes of hockey they will have to work even harder to get to their locker room!
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Wow 40 degree incline... I don't remember that big of an incline when we toured the locker rooms. Could be though, we only did it once, and it was after having a few at the Elwood.

Well the good new I guess, is that when they finally do get to the locker room and rest between periods, it's all downhill to get back to the ice...

Better then going uphill back to the ice.
 
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