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Ferris State Hockey 2009-10 - 2 minutes for slashing

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Scoring will be hard. I look at the senior class, and don't see anyone of them making a major jump in points. We got some good seniors, but goal scoring just isn't a part of their game, and it would be unfair to expect it from them. Our two junior forwards are in and out of the lineup every weekend.

We got some young guys who got a lot of potential to put pucks in the net. Fair, or not I think they are the most critical piece to the team this year. Kirzinger, Ouellette, Alexander, and maybe Huff/another frosh will have to overachieve in order to be successful.
 
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There will be suprises this year.I think that some of the 2nd year guys will step up.It will be very interesting to see who put in the time in the gym and on the ice to prepare for season. Some of the names listed could do well or struggle .I think there are others who could stepup . I realise that practise is only part of a players year but there were guys who lit it up there but it did not come to the games. One player comes to mind who hit posts and generated chances in the games but for now I will wait and see if his time will come this season.
Our freshman class was very good last year the question this year is are our freshman as good to push for time.Do you think a true freshmen is ready to play in this league? Is Huff ready or did he have a great start and then fall off the radar.Look at his stats on pointstreak hot start then cold as ice.Let's hope for our sake it does not continue.
 
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I would love if you would list some names. I agree about the 2nd year players. They all looked promising. He produced the least, but I really like Bonis' game.

Only player I can think of (when healthy) who generated offense, but didn't have it show up on his stat sheet is Fillinger. I like the speed he brings.
 
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Nothing earth-shattering, but here's a column on the Penn State to the CCHA subject. Hey Hammer, when does the 2010-11 thread start? It falls on your shoulders.

COLUMN: Penn State hockey could have major impact

CCHA interested in Nittany Lions, but then what follows?

By Zeke Jennings
Pioneer Sports Editor

Published: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:03 PM EDT

Penn State adding men’s hockey will have ripple effects across the landscape of Division I college hockey.

The questions are how big those ripples will be and who they might affect.

Late last week, the Altoona (Pa.) Mirror quoted an anonymous source “close to the the situation” that Penn State was “close” to adding men’s and women’s hockey.

Central Collegiate Hockey Association commissioner Tom Anastos gave the potential story further credibility when he publicly addressed the situation to The Detroit News on Tuesday.

“They are a very attractive choice — very attractive,” Anastos told The News. “They’re in a different market than we’re in, more and more U.S. players are on college rosters, and there’s tremendous growth of the sport in Pennsylvania.”

With the CCHA currently having 11 teams following the departure of Nebraska-Omaha to the Western Collegiate Hockey Association, the league would obviously like to add another. Who knows? Maybe even three more.

The league turned down Alabama-Huntsville’s application to replace UNO earlier this year. Some people may see the CCHA salivating at the prospect of Penn State joining the league as being hypocritical.

Here, Alabama-Huntsville was seemingly left out to dry by the CCHA (the Chargers are the only team in college hockey without a conference), yet months later the league turns around and gives a vote of confidence to a program that doesn’t even exist yet.

That’s unfortunate for Alabama-Huntsville, but the CCHA isn’t a charity.

The league can benefit in many ways from having Penn State, whereas the only entity that really benefits from Huntsville joining the CCHA is Huntsville.

All of the CCHA’s members can benefit from Penn State’s presence in terms of marketing, exposure and recruiting. However, the people who really are agog are the folks at the Big Ten schools — Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State — and probably moreso, the Big Ten Network.

The BTN has been pushing for more games between the five schools that currently have hockey (Minnesota and Wisconsin are part of the WCHA). The members themselves have tried to oblige, as has the CCHA.

When the league restructured its scheduling format in the spring, it elected to put the three Big Ten schools in a permanent cluster, meaning the teams will face each other four times per season in league play every year. That doesn’t include out-of-league tournaments, like the Great Lakes Invitational.

I’m not faulting the CCHA for catering to the Big Ten schools, they carry a lot of weight in the world of college hockey, and the BTN carries a lot of weight in college sports, period.

I’m wondering, though, where does it end?

If Penn State does eventually join the CCHA, the Big Ten is going to want a Big Ten hockey conference. The league will start pushing for the four CCHA Big Ten schools to somehow join in with Minnesota and Wisconsin.

A Big Ten hockey conference has long been a rumor. The road block has always been that there are only five teams. Six is suppose to be the minimum for an official conference, meaning an automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament. (College Hockey America got an automatic bid with four the past couple of years, but that’s another column.)

Once there is a sixth Big Ten team, all the leverage shifts to them. The schools no longer need anyone else, it’ll just be who they choose to include.

If the six to decide to join, which isn’t yet a given by any means, then how does it come to fruition?

The best-case scenario for the other eight CCHA teams would be if the league simply added Minnesota and Wisconsin to make a 14-team league. Sure the league would be top-heavy, but it already is now.

If that didn’t happen, it could leave some of the little guys, like Ferris State, on shaky ground.

Let’s say the six Big Ten schools elected to go off on their own and make a new conference. I’m guessing they wouldn’t want just six teams, but would rather go with eight or 10.

So which current CCHA schools would they elect to grace with an invitation?

Undoubtedly Notre Dame (assuming the Irish haven’t already joined the Big Ten by then). The Mid-American Conference teams would likely be next in line (Bowling Green, Miami and Western Michigan).

It would not be a good-looking situation for schools like Ferris State and Lake Superior. Losing the scheduling stability that being in the CCHA brings would be the least of their worries.

The teams would have to schedule more games outside of the Midwest, which would mean more travel costs. In turn, high-profile home games against the Big Ten schools would no longer exist — Michigan probably isn’t coming to Big Rapids if Michigan doesn’t have to.

It’s a scary thought.

We’d then know how Alabama-Huntsville feels now.
 
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I'm not ready quite yet. I'll start the 2010-2011 thread somewhere around the end of September. Probably. Given what I've got for a schedule in October, that's what we're looking at. This can suffice for now, I suppose.

I've thought about using the Denver model, where we start a thread named Ferris State Hockey Part 1, and it closes when it closes (they close at 1000 posts here) and then we start Part 2, and so on and so forth, regardless of how many seasons it takes. No season thread, just on and on and on. If it takes 3 years to close a thread, so be it. Denver's on Part XXVIII right now, and I don't know when they started it. As a matter of fact, I'm leaning in that direction, with a twist. I would like some feedback on that.

As for the article, upon initial review, the writer nails my thoughts almost perfectly. IMO a BTHC is big trouble for Ferris, and LSSU for that matter. In the Penn State thread I mentioned that I think two CCHA schools could potentially lose hockey altogether with the formation of a BTHC, and Ferris and LSSU are the two in mind. Let's be honest. The two biggest draws, year in and year out, for Ferris are Michigan and Michigan State, and it's really not even close. You'll see 1500-1700 for attendance when Western, LSSU and the like are in town, but when Michigan and MSU come in, there's a big difference in the atmosphere in the arena. You take that away, and I think there's going to be some people that are going to think twice about renewing tickets, or even buying tickets in the first place. As I've said before, if I lived in Grand Rapids instead of Adrian, I'd have a set of tickets, no questions asked. It wouldn't be an issue for me, but others do have different situations.

I think that was a very good column.

And this time I think there's an awful lot of smoke for there not to be a fire regarding Penn State hockey. The alumni and fans of Ferris State hockey need to keep a concerned eye on this development. This is trouble.
 
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I like the thread idea FWIW.

Agree good article. There's a lot of thoughts/scenarios going through my head, but for now I won't share them, because well there's too many.

I'll just say this: I agree with Hammer about FSU/LSSU, but I'm going to take it a step further. If there's a BTHC the CCHA is flat out done.

I believe with a BTHC the CCHA loses 5 or 6 teams. They start out by losing U-M, MSU, OSU, and maybe ND (if they are in the B10 by this time). After that, they lose two more because the WCHA will need to replace Minn/Wisc. Their replacements will come from the CCHA (My guess is NMU/Miami).

It would be nice if you could somehow crown a B10 champion without pulling the teams from their respective conferences. With scheduling nowadays that is probably impossible though.
 
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I don't think the CCHA is done, but it's going to be much smaller-minded.

I'm operating under the assumption that a BTHC is only going to comprise the Big Ten teams, and that Notre Dame is not going to be a member. That takes the CCHA to 8, and believe it or not, makes room for UAH, assuming they're still around and viable at that time. The WCHA might grab NMU, but Miami is out of their geographical footprint. The CCHA is looking at about 8 teams, assuming that Ferris, LSSU, and even BGSU and WMU remain viable.

Now, the Big Ten teams are still going to need to fill their non-con schedule, so they might reach for teams in their former conferences to do so. But make no mistake, these games are going to be home games for Michigan, MSU, OSU, Minny and Wisco. These teams aren't giving up their home gate to go play in Big Rapids, the Soo, or Kalamazoo. That means no big sellout weekends for Ferris, and the related parking, concessions, etc. that go along with that are also gone. That's why I think this is such bad news for Ferris.
 
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Hammer said:
I don't think the CCHA is done, but it's going to be much smaller-minded.

I'm operating under the assumption that a BTHC is only going to comprise the Big Ten teams, and that Notre Dame is not going to be a member. That takes the CCHA to 8, and believe it or not, makes room for UAH, assuming they're still around and viable at that time. The WCHA might grab NMU, but Miami is out of their geographical footprint. The CCHA is looking at about 8 teams, assuming that Ferris, LSSU, and even BGSU and WMU remain viable.

Now, the Big Ten teams are still going to need to fill their non-con schedule, so they might reach for teams in their former conferences to do so. But make no mistake, these games are going to be home games for Michigan, MSU, OSU, Minny and Wisco. These teams aren't giving up their home gate to go play in Big Rapids, the Soo, or Kalamazoo. That means no big sellout weekends for Ferris, and the related parking, concessions, etc. that go along with that are also gone. That's why I think this is such bad news for Ferris.
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Exactly, and its not like the Big Ten schools are going to be doling out big paydays as well to go to AA, EL, TC, Madison, and Columbus. Plus, not having them come to Big Rapids, you lose out on the chance of developing the locals and the students into Ferris fans. The casual fan would come out to see a Michigan, might come again next weekend to see LSSU, and would slowly become a Bulldog Booster. Without the Big Ten in the league, Ferris is going to have to fight like hell to develope new fans to keep the stands full every night.
 
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For now I don't intend to lose any sleep over this.The CCHA will not go away and the travel cost for the Big Ten schools it will be looked at by each school. For now let's see the time line for Penn state to start D1. Need an arena for starters and that takes time and they need the driving force (alums) to do it and the will of the school to do it.Time will tell and all of the talk about the smaller schools being left out of the mix is to me pretty premature to say the least.
Talk around is that the players for this years Bulldogs are back this week and working out and skating together. Hoping for a good year again and can't wait for the season to start.Go Dawgs
 
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Oh, and it looks like the 5 PM Saturday starts are gone. If so, that's a great move by the school.
 
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Hammer said:
The problem is, we've still got 6 weeks to go.
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There's always football Hammer. ;)

Ferris State travels to Hillsdale Friday night. Kickoff is at 7, and if my current schedule holds, I should be able to be there, other than I would be coming from the other side of the state. Would be more than happy to share a few cold ones with you there. ;)
 
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Hey Guys,

How's the summer going?

I just picked up a MacBook Pro laptop and installed Final Cut on it for Video Editing. Over the summer, I contacted the television companies that ran Ferris State Hockey and had DVD's of the games sent to me. My goal is to create highlights of each game for archives. So far I have two games done:

The first one I created was on my old PC in a trial version of Adobe Premiere of the Ferris State vs. Michigan game on January 23rd when the 'Dawgs won in the final minute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq70FxIvDWA

The second one, I just created on my new MacBook Pro with the real edition of Final Cut. The video is thin, but that is the way I got it from FSN Detroit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNFHIrkmfOo


Depending on funding, I am hoping to get Post Game Video Highlights of most of the games this year. Let me know what you think so far.


Dom
 
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Well, let me just say that, they looked better than last year.
 
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