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Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
Oddly enough, 100% of the kids who went D1 went D1.
Oddly enough, 100% of the kids who went D1 went D1.
Runninwiththedogs
Tech Hot
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
Ok. Let's try to be sane for a minute here. I know it's hard. If a kid doesn't want any part of school, there's no reason for him to play in the NCAA. No one here is advocating that. I didn't realize that I had to explicitly state that the players have to actually be interested in an education. So now that we've gotten that assumption, what this whole thread is about is the OHL claiming that they have a better program for student-athletes, which they don't.
I listed all those players because you claimed that colleges were making these students take b.s. classes, and I asked you to list their course schedules so we could see what these b.s. classes were, since you know.
There is no reason for players who place no value on education to play college hockey. But what the MJ and anti-college NHL execs are claiming is 1. the O/W are categorically superior to college hockey for player development and 2. the education package is equal to, if not better than, college hockey's education packages. Or, in other words, they are lying.
I missed that the first time around. But, to be fair, I assumed hokydad was a human and not a chimpanzee, so I'm just as guility of stereotyping.
Do you ever read what you... er, never mind.
Are you going to call up Jonny Toews and tell him that you know better than he did what the best course of action was for him, and that he'd be a better player if he'd gone to MJs rather than UND?
Ok. Let's try to be sane for a minute here. I know it's hard. If a kid doesn't want any part of school, there's no reason for him to play in the NCAA. No one here is advocating that. I didn't realize that I had to explicitly state that the players have to actually be interested in an education. So now that we've gotten that assumption, what this whole thread is about is the OHL claiming that they have a better program for student-athletes, which they don't.
I listed all those players because you claimed that colleges were making these students take b.s. classes, and I asked you to list their course schedules so we could see what these b.s. classes were, since you know.
There is no reason for players who place no value on education to play college hockey. But what the MJ and anti-college NHL execs are claiming is 1. the O/W are categorically superior to college hockey for player development and 2. the education package is equal to, if not better than, college hockey's education packages. Or, in other words, they are lying.
yet another assuming rwtd is a male? here we go again......
I missed that the first time around. But, to be fair, I assumed hokydad was a human and not a chimpanzee, so I'm just as guility of stereotyping.
Do you ever read what you... er, never mind.
Are you going to call up Jonny Toews and tell him that you know better than he did what the best course of action was for him, and that he'd be a better player if he'd gone to MJs rather than UND?
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
If you want to have an intelligent conversation, fine.
Toews was one and done
To assume that all kids that go MJ have interest in education is laughable. Some want to focus W00@ct on hockey and go to school afterwards and will probably get more out of it and appreciate the education more
Many kids are told by their coaches to not take tough classes. A friends kid was told not to change major to pre med last year and he has little if any pro shot
Like the commercial says, the vast majority will never play pro. The high end first and some second rounders can always go after hockey.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation, fine.
Toews was one and done
To assume that all kids that go MJ have interest in education is laughable. Some want to focus W00@ct on hockey and go to school afterwards and will probably get more out of it and appreciate the education more
Many kids are told by their coaches to not take tough classes. A friends kid was told not to change major to pre med last year and he has little if any pro shot
Like the commercial says, the vast majority will never play pro. The high end first and some second rounders can always go after hockey.
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
Name the school that this happened at.
Name the school that this happened at.
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
Clearly, only those D1 kids making a "pit stop" are NHL types. Forget the Giontas of the world who have no chance to spend a minute in the big show because they spent four years in school but still wanted a shot at the NHL.
Four years guys should just accept the reality that they are going to be insurance agents someday and have no chance to play pro hockey after getting a 4 year degree...
Clearly, only those D1 kids making a "pit stop" are NHL types. Forget the Giontas of the world who have no chance to spend a minute in the big show because they spent four years in school but still wanted a shot at the NHL.
Four years guys should just accept the reality that they are going to be insurance agents someday and have no chance to play pro hockey after getting a 4 year degree...
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
It happened at "Hokydad Fantasyland University" in Stalkerville, Massachusetts....
It happened at "Hokydad Fantasyland University" in Stalkerville, Massachusetts....
bigblue_dl
Armed
Runninwiththedogs
Tech Hot
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
Clearly, you don't.
In what universe???
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE EDUCATION PACKAGE OF THE OHL VS. THE EDUCATION PACKAGE IN THE NCAAs. WE ARE EXCLUSIVELY TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN EDUCATION.
Who is this friend's kid? What school does he attend?
Clearly, you don't.
In what universe???
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE EDUCATION PACKAGE OF THE OHL VS. THE EDUCATION PACKAGE IN THE NCAAs. WE ARE EXCLUSIVELY TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN EDUCATION.
Who is this friend's kid? What school does he attend?
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
heaven may have run out of wingless angels
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
I am well aware the post was about educational packages
Little secret for you, about 90 pct of players get 2 years or less scholarship., Bonino 1/4 for example
Why keep saying 300' + when the vast majority get less then 2 years
I agree most should go D 1 and only elite who are fast track nhl should go MJ
It is a hollow victory for ncaa to go one year and leave
I am well aware the post was about educational packages
Little secret for you, about 90 pct of players get 2 years or less scholarship., Bonino 1/4 for example
Why keep saying 300' + when the vast majority get less then 2 years
I agree most should go D 1 and only elite who are fast track nhl should go MJ
It is a hollow victory for ncaa to go one year and leave
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
I'm calling shenanigans on that. First off besides maybe the military academies no one cares about a student athletes education more than the ivies. Second I doubt that any coach would tell their players not to take hard classes. They want them to be successful so that even if they don't make it to the NHL they will be able to donate to the program one day.
I'm calling shenanigans on that. First off besides maybe the military academies no one cares about a student athletes education more than the ivies. Second I doubt that any coach would tell their players not to take hard classes. They want them to be successful so that even if they don't make it to the NHL they will be able to donate to the program one day.
Runninwiththedogs
Tech Hot
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
You are aware of nothing. You said "To assume that all kids that go MJ have interest in education is laughable." No one assumed that.
Your information is not a secret. It's not a fact either. And I'm not sure who is talking about 300' or what exactly you mean. I read that as "300 feet." Not as cryptic as "W00@ct."
As for the hollow victory, what are you talking about? Ask any UND fan, heck, any WCHA fan, and they will tell you it was a treat to watch Toews play and they were thrilled he was there for two (yes, two) years. Matt Niskanen and Mason Raymond were bright spots on pretty dismal tUMD teams. Zach Parise, Travis Zajac, Thomas Vanek, JVR, Paul Kariya... you think fans of UND, UMTC, UNH, Maine, etc would rather those players didn't come? NO.
You are aware of nothing. You said "To assume that all kids that go MJ have interest in education is laughable." No one assumed that.
Your information is not a secret. It's not a fact either. And I'm not sure who is talking about 300' or what exactly you mean. I read that as "300 feet." Not as cryptic as "W00@ct."
As for the hollow victory, what are you talking about? Ask any UND fan, heck, any WCHA fan, and they will tell you it was a treat to watch Toews play and they were thrilled he was there for two (yes, two) years. Matt Niskanen and Mason Raymond were bright spots on pretty dismal tUMD teams. Zach Parise, Travis Zajac, Thomas Vanek, JVR, Paul Kariya... you think fans of UND, UMTC, UNH, Maine, etc would rather those players didn't come? NO.
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
I dont remember seeing a white painter's fan with "candy" spray painted on the side in the parking lot at Meehan, so my guess it isn't Brown.
This Hokydad cat is a cartoon character. I hope he stays around.
I dont remember seeing a white painter's fan with "candy" spray painted on the side in the parking lot at Meehan, so my guess it isn't Brown.
This Hokydad cat is a cartoon character. I hope he stays around.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
Don't worry, he's kinda like herpes in that way.
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA
Loved kaiya when he played at maine
Ask paul kelly of it is a hollow victory when a kid goes there and never intends to stay more than one year
Leblancs comments after draft made Harvard alum cringe
The 300 k was the number people have been saying the D 1 ncaa package is worth vs MJ packages
Most get 1 year maybe 2
Pat Kane got a package that paid for his sister, not bad
Vast majority should go D1
Loved kaiya when he played at maine
Ask paul kelly of it is a hollow victory when a kid goes there and never intends to stay more than one year
Leblancs comments after draft made Harvard alum cringe
The 300 k was the number people have been saying the D 1 ncaa package is worth vs MJ packages
Most get 1 year maybe 2
Pat Kane got a package that paid for his sister, not bad
Vast majority should go D1