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Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA

Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA

I would suspect that sometime in the future a few Canadian college teams will join the NCAA but they won't be able to use ex-CHLers. Their recruiting would have to change to conform with the NCAA. I quickly looked up DU's history against Canadian colleges and it appears they have a 75-19-8 all time record against them.
 
Re: Fascinating story on reality of OHL education packages vs NCAA

du78 said:
I would suspect that sometime in the future a few Canadian college teams will join the NCAA but they won't be able to use ex-CHLers. Their recruiting would have to change to conform with the NCAA. I quickly looked up DU's history against Canadian colleges and it appears they have a 75-19-8 all time record against them.
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The last Denver loss to a Canadian University happened in 1999, when Alberta beat the Pioneers, 5-4 in OT. Nowadays, DU treats these game as exhibitions, playing all three goalies for a period each, and playing many of the reserve skaters that would not otherwise play, so it's hard to read where the exact level of difference is. The U of Alberta and U of Calgary teams that have come to Denver in recent years tend to be experienced teams of older ex major junior guys with a few ECHL vets here and there. The other Canadian schools that have come in here were largely overmatched...I think the last time DU played in Canada was in 1982, when they got swept by UBC in Vancouver.
 
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OHLArenaGuide said:
Um, no thanks. 20-0 blowouts aren't exactly sporting.
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Highly unlikely result....as NBer has pointed out, the top CIS teams can compete with their NCAA counterparts. The problem in the CIS is one of depth. There are only 10 or so decent programs. The quality does seem to be improving a great deal, however, as more and more CHL players exercise their scholarship packages.
 
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Jeepers, I'm out of the loop on vacation and some CIS/Canadian bashing flares up and I miss it!

;)

To echo some earlier comments, the top CIS teams can play with Div I squads. The top schools. And those schools are predominately NOT in Ontario, which unfortunately in this respect, makes up half the CIS. There is a depth issue in the CIS, and it is predominately in the OUA conference where many teams don't take recruiting seriously.

However, we're comparing apples and oranges. I love the CIS and like the NCAA, but one league is made up of former CHL and Junior A players and is on average a bit older than the other. That would be the CIS if you haven't been paying attention.

As has been pointed out before, the CHL and the CIS are PARTNERS. The quality of CIS teams have improved as more and more young men are are least paying token interest to education while playing Junior, and then making sure to use those CHL education packages to get a tuition-free education, and is some cases a 'full ride' if their CHL team topped up their league package.

Is the CHL doing this to compete with the NCAA for players? Of course they are. The team owners run for-profit businesses, and if they can woo an impact player by promising his education at a later date, then everyone is happy. Except maybe the NCAA.

As for the questionable graduation stats the newspaper columnist pulls out of his rectum, well, you can probably guess that I find them suspect. I do know that as a country Canada has a higher percentage of citizens graduate from college/university than the U.S., and is one of the tops in the world in that respect. Maybe we don't have exclusive Ivy League schools in Canada, but then our graduates didn't set out to ruin the world's economy either (i.e Wall Street = Ivy League in case I didn't make my point well). Btw, the safest banks in the world? Canada.

But enough of the nationalism/chauvinism. A large chunk of former CHL (and Junior A) players get to attend a post-secondary institution on an education package that many non-jocks would kill for. We don't appear to have accurate statistics for how many, so maybe we should stop repeating pie-in-the-sky numbers from reporters-with-an-agenda as facts.

The real question for me is what can or will CHA do about it?
 
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