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ESPN sucks
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leswp1
Well-known member
Re: ESPN sucks
Whites. They have a grey uniform which uniformly has been horrible to them.
billmich88888
Registered Person
Re: ESPN sucks
I happen to really love the Maize/Gold on white look. I think it is an especially bright and crisp look. see photos here:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n...-huskies-battles-for-the-news-photo/460895028
I happen to really love the Maize/Gold on white look. I think it is an especially bright and crisp look. see photos here:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n...-huskies-battles-for-the-news-photo/460895028
Re: ESPN sucks
IIRC Lowell was wearing white for those games. Lowell has on a couple of occasions worn blue at home in the last couple of years, usually along with some kind of special promotion (I remember the BC home game last year was a "blue out" and they gave away a blue t-shirt to everyone to wear) but I don't recall a QU game being one of them.
IIRC Lowell was wearing white for those games. Lowell has on a couple of occasions worn blue at home in the last couple of years, usually along with some kind of special promotion (I remember the BC home game last year was a "blue out" and they gave away a blue t-shirt to everyone to wear) but I don't recall a QU game being one of them.
billmich88888
Registered Person
billmich88888
Registered Person
Re: ESPN sucks
Here is a link to a game last season against Clarkson, looks like white at home here
http://q30television.com/2015/02/18/mens-hockey-faces-ongoing-trouble-in-the-first-period/
Here is a link to a game last season against Clarkson, looks like white at home here
http://q30television.com/2015/02/18/mens-hockey-faces-ongoing-trouble-in-the-first-period/
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Split-N
All Hail
Re: ESPN sucks
Bingo!
Buccigross is (apparently) a nice guy who does a lot to put a good spin on college hockey while sitting in the SportsCenter anchor chair. But that's the problem. He's an anchor and not a PxP guy. Melrose has a lot of X and O knowledge but he's almost exclusively attuned to the NHL game and just doesn't have an innate knowledge of the college game.
Both of these guys are out of their elements, and that has the effect of marginalizing production values. It just seems to me that ESPN, with all of its vast resources, could pluck a qualified broadcast team from among the many great college hockey broadcasters out there, or even from their ESPN3 stable, for far less than they're paying Bucci and Barry.
I could name names.
Bingo!
Buccigross is (apparently) a nice guy who does a lot to put a good spin on college hockey while sitting in the SportsCenter anchor chair. But that's the problem. He's an anchor and not a PxP guy. Melrose has a lot of X and O knowledge but he's almost exclusively attuned to the NHL game and just doesn't have an innate knowledge of the college game.
Both of these guys are out of their elements, and that has the effect of marginalizing production values. It just seems to me that ESPN, with all of its vast resources, could pluck a qualified broadcast team from among the many great college hockey broadcasters out there, or even from their ESPN3 stable, for far less than they're paying Bucci and Barry.
I could name names.
huskyfan
New member
Re: ESPN sucks
the average American knows there is professional hockey. other than the Stanley Cup it's not on the radar. college hockey isn't even in the room with the radar scope. they have a small but dedicated following. if the teams, the NCAA and ESPN want the sport to grow they must promote it. if you are old enough you remember when there was no "March Madness" - just a championship game. no brackets, no wall to wall TV coverage, no special ads just for the tournament. there was no Super Bowl and all its hoopla. college hockey sadly needs marketing and promotion. a few catchy promos in the BB tournament would help. some talk on Sports Center leading up would be good. pushing articles into the sports press would help. ads in SI?
USA today? I've not been in a city holding the Frozen Four but I like to think its front page in the sports section. ANYTHING that can be done to raise awareness, promote promote promote.
the average American knows there is professional hockey. other than the Stanley Cup it's not on the radar. college hockey isn't even in the room with the radar scope. they have a small but dedicated following. if the teams, the NCAA and ESPN want the sport to grow they must promote it. if you are old enough you remember when there was no "March Madness" - just a championship game. no brackets, no wall to wall TV coverage, no special ads just for the tournament. there was no Super Bowl and all its hoopla. college hockey sadly needs marketing and promotion. a few catchy promos in the BB tournament would help. some talk on Sports Center leading up would be good. pushing articles into the sports press would help. ads in SI?
USA today? I've not been in a city holding the Frozen Four but I like to think its front page in the sports section. ANYTHING that can be done to raise awareness, promote promote promote.
Split-N
All Hail
Re: ESPN sucks
I live in WashDC and can tell you for a fact that advance coverage of the 2009 FF in the DC-area print and broadcast media was all but non-existent. A couple of the TV stations gave the games maybe 20 seconds worth of air time on the 11 p.m. news. A feature or two in the print media and relatively short game stories. No effect on attendance though. The games sold out, IIRC.
It wasn't that the NCAA and organizing committee didn't provide media kits and plenty of coverage opportunities. The DC media just doesn't care about and is sometimes even hostile toward hockey. Even today, the Caps aren't getting media attention that is consistent with their historic season.
It's the way things are outside of the traditional hockey hotbeds.
I live in WashDC and can tell you for a fact that advance coverage of the 2009 FF in the DC-area print and broadcast media was all but non-existent. A couple of the TV stations gave the games maybe 20 seconds worth of air time on the 11 p.m. news. A feature or two in the print media and relatively short game stories. No effect on attendance though. The games sold out, IIRC.
It wasn't that the NCAA and organizing committee didn't provide media kits and plenty of coverage opportunities. The DC media just doesn't care about and is sometimes even hostile toward hockey. Even today, the Caps aren't getting media attention that is consistent with their historic season.
It's the way things are outside of the traditional hockey hotbeds.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: ESPN sucks
In 2002, when St. Paul was hosting the Frozen Four, there was a lot of excitement and news coverage surrounding the event as the Gophers were in the tournament. When St. Paul later hosted the event in 2011, we still saw some coverage of the event, but it wasn't anything like what we saw in 2002. It helped in 2011 that UMD was in the game, as the media outlets knew there would be some local interest from the alumni, but it still wasn't much coverage at all.
That said, the event was packed and the St. Paul bars were crammed full of hockey fans, as had been the case with pretty much every men's college hockey tournament that had come to town to that point. So it really wasn't anything special in 2011, just another tournament in town. Now take other locations, where they're not hockey hotbeds, and I'm willing to bet some of those local bars don't even know the tournament is in town. Take that a step further, and place it in a locale that's nowhere near college hockey, and aside from people who travel within a block or two of the arena, people might not even know that NCAA men's ice hockey is an actual thing.
In 2002, when St. Paul was hosting the Frozen Four, there was a lot of excitement and news coverage surrounding the event as the Gophers were in the tournament. When St. Paul later hosted the event in 2011, we still saw some coverage of the event, but it wasn't anything like what we saw in 2002. It helped in 2011 that UMD was in the game, as the media outlets knew there would be some local interest from the alumni, but it still wasn't much coverage at all.
That said, the event was packed and the St. Paul bars were crammed full of hockey fans, as had been the case with pretty much every men's college hockey tournament that had come to town to that point. So it really wasn't anything special in 2011, just another tournament in town. Now take other locations, where they're not hockey hotbeds, and I'm willing to bet some of those local bars don't even know the tournament is in town. Take that a step further, and place it in a locale that's nowhere near college hockey, and aside from people who travel within a block or two of the arena, people might not even know that NCAA men's ice hockey is an actual thing.
Re: ESPN sucks
Here is my counter argument to not using Bucci and Melrose: They are the FACE of hockey on ESPN. If there is a hockey game being called by them, the casual viewer would consider it more important than if someone who knows the college game better but doesn't have the national exposure.
Here is my counter argument to not using Bucci and Melrose: They are the FACE of hockey on ESPN. If there is a hockey game being called by them, the casual viewer would consider it more important than if someone who knows the college game better but doesn't have the national exposure.
leswp1
Well-known member
Re: ESPN sucks
Barely heard about FF where I live when it was in Boston. Fairly active youth hockey and Jr hockey here. No marketing occured that I can remember. I didn't even attempt to go. It was way to expensive to consider and I wouldn't have been able to get the time off. I have watched on TV every time I can.
Marketing is all about making people want something they may not need. If I were to tell someone they could watch a car drive around in a circle 500 times who would be excited? They hype it and people live to watch folks drive around in circles. They have created the demand for sports that are like watching paint dry. The lack of effort is the reason it doesn't fly.
Barely heard about FF where I live when it was in Boston. Fairly active youth hockey and Jr hockey here. No marketing occured that I can remember. I didn't even attempt to go. It was way to expensive to consider and I wouldn't have been able to get the time off. I have watched on TV every time I can.
Marketing is all about making people want something they may not need. If I were to tell someone they could watch a car drive around in a circle 500 times who would be excited? They hype it and people live to watch folks drive around in circles. They have created the demand for sports that are like watching paint dry. The lack of effort is the reason it doesn't fly.
ticapnews
Never graduate.
Re: ESPN sucks
Why would they want the sport to grow? The NCAA doesn't want the competition to its March Madness Money Machine and ESPN doesn't care if the ratings are .2 or .5 they are still only doing it because they have to in order to get the only part of the contract they care about.
Why would they want the sport to grow? The NCAA doesn't want the competition to its March Madness Money Machine and ESPN doesn't care if the ratings are .2 or .5 they are still only doing it because they have to in order to get the only part of the contract they care about.
There you go bringing logic to an Internet debate. Which names are more sellable to sponsors, John Buccigross & Barry Melrose or Clay Matvick & some other guy???
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: ESPN sucks
Gary Thorne? I don't think he's necessarily available at the start of baseball season is he?
Gary Thorne? I don't think he's necessarily available at the start of baseball season is he?
billmich88888
Registered Person
SonofSouthie
Misanthrope
Re: ESPN sucks
Bingo. I really got hooked on college hockey about 3 years ago and went to my first FF that year. The atmosphere in the Gahden was off the charts. Sat next to a family from Wisconsin that go every year. Watching (it s*cks to) BU lose and the way they lost was icing on the cake. Any mention in the media was almost a passing thought even with a team from Boston playing.