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Elmira possibly moving to First Arena?

elbojpb said:
The county exec made it very clear that the Afrs (owners of the Jackals and manage the Arena) are on very very thin ice. The fire alarm hasn't worked since it was installed, and the county is sick of the Afr's sleazy operating style. The reason Santulli wants EC downtown is to have a primary tenant when the Afr's and Jackals are presumptively evicted at the end of the 12/13 season, which makes the scheduling issue a moot issue.

There are no substantive negatives for EC moving to the Arena other than Connor having to drive the extra 8 miles which most of us do now.
  • Parking is abundant and free is you don't mind walking two blocks
  • There is more than one road into and out of the arena
  • There are no mysterious crop circles under the ice
  • The temperature is tolerable
  • There are more than two concession locations
  • There are more than two bathrooms
  • The lighting isn't abysmal
  • The hand soap is not purple
  • The seats are all comfortable
  • You can eat downtown, then walk to the game
  • The sound system does not suck
  • There is more than one entrance
  • Hopefully more than 20 students would attend
  • My wife would begin attending with me again

Edit ... Here's the latest scoop on this train wreck from the local rag:
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How is your last point a positive? :)
 
Re: Elmira possibly moving to First Arena?

bakdraft21 said:
can you say Final Four???
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Elmira and the First Arena hosted the very first pre-determined site D-III Final Four once they started going to this foramt back in 2006 and have now stayed with to present day. Middlebury beat St. Norbert 3-0 in the finals after the Panthers beat Elmira 2-1 and SNC beat Hobart 5-4? IIRC.

I know Aldrich Arena in Minnesota hosted in like 1993 correct which I believe was the only other pre-determined site?
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Elmira and the First Arena hosted the very first pre-determined site D-III Final Four once they started going to this foramt back in 2006 and have now stayed with to present day. Middlebury beat St. Norbert 3-0 in the finals after the Panthers beat Elmira 2-1 and SNC beat Hobart 5-4? IIRC.

I know Aldrich Arena in Minnesota hosted in like 1993 correct which I believe was the only other pre-determined site?
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I did not know that...thnks...ps how did it go??? attendance??
 
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bakdraft21 said:
I did not know that...thnks...ps how did it go??? attendance??
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Attendance was great for the Elmira/Middlebury game.

I believe 3000ish.

EDIT: Just looked at official box and listed at a little over 2500.

SNC/Midd championship was 1474.

So not the best attendance I guess.

But also, didn't have the luxury of having a fan base like Oswego, Plattsburgh, or Norwich there either.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Attendance was great for the Elmira/Middlebury game.

I believe 3000ish.

EDIT: Just looked at official box and listed at a little over 2500.

SNC/Midd championship was 1474.

So not the best attendance I guess.

But also, didn't have the luxury of having a fan base like Oswego, Plattsburgh, or Norwich there either.
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IHMO attendance is always going to be a challenging issue in a small market/campus location...folks are not likely to stick around for a final their school is not playing in...most (all?) don't have the draw of a Lake Placid, where you can plan on a nice weekend regardless of the game scores...

Let's consider Oswego as an option - In recent years, the Pathfinder has had a great lineup of teams and yet has never been close to a sellout with students home for winter break...a Frozen Four during spring break could have the same result even with the Lakers in the final...

Rule of thumb - If you won't take a vacation there, you probably won't stick around to see two other teams play....
 
Re: Elmira possibly moving to First Arena?

Elbojpb, I probably drive to more "Away Games" than you do, the extra drive down to Hellmira doesn't faze me, it's a case of me being selfish, which I already stated. Someone has to live close, someone has to drive farther. As long as the Boosters don't get the shaft, I really don't care, 25 yrs, missed only one home game, show us some respect.
My money says it doesn't happen anyway:D
 
I just want whatever is going to give the team the best chance to compete and win a national championship. Elmira has been good for far too long to not have a national championship yet. Something needs to spark this program to the next level.

This year's recruiting class looks promising. It has to be after all the talent that was lost with the 2012 class. Hopefully deMelo got his grades straightened out and will be eligible again next year to compete for time with McDonald.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
I just want whatever is going to give the team the best chance to compete and win a national championship. Elmira has been good for far too long to not have a national championship yet. Something needs to spark this program to the next level.

This year's recruiting class looks promising. It has to be after all the talent that was lost with the 2012 class. Hopefully deMelo got his grades straightened out and will be eligible again next year to compete for time with McDonald.
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Speaking of recruits as is the case at Norwich the coaching staffs like to keep as much info as possible under the radar for various reasons. It seems this year even Oswego and Plattsburgh are keeping the recruit info close to the vest so the recruits posted doesn't reflect what is coming in. The D1 transfers are also for the most part off the books and can make a big difference as evidenced by the Plattsburgh goaltender pickup last year.

Prez could you give us an idea how old the Domes is and the number of people it will hold? I have never been to a game in Elmira to date.
 
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hawk said:
Speaking of recruits as is the case at Norwich the coaching staffs like to keep as much info as possible under the radar for various reasons. It seems this year even Oswego and Plattsburgh are keeping the recruit info close to the vest so the recruits posted doesn't reflect what is coming in. The D1 transfers are also for the most part off the books and can make a big difference as evidenced by the Plattsburgh goaltender pickup last year.

Prez could you give us an idea how old the Domes is and the number of people it will hold? I have never been to a game in Elmira to date.
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From the Elmira Athletics website...

Murray Athletic Center
The world's first geodesic dome athletic complex, the Murray Athletic Center, is one of the most unique athletic facilities in the Northeast. Located eight miles from the main campus, it features a 3,200 seat hockey arena, a 2,000-seat gymnasium, a 38,000 square-foot field house with four indoor tennis courts, six squash courts and two playing fields. It too has gone through a recent renovation and expansion in the ice arena locker room area.

There must be a secret short cut - don't think I ever got out there in only 8 miles...
 
Re: Elmira possibly moving to First Arena?

hawk said:
Speaking of recruits as is the case at Norwich the coaching staffs like to keep as much info as possible under the radar for various reasons. It seems this year even Oswego and Plattsburgh are keeping the recruit info close to the vest so the recruits posted doesn't reflect what is coming in. The D1 transfers are also for the most part off the books and can make a big difference as evidenced by the Plattsburgh goaltender pickup last year.

Prez could you give us an idea how old the Domes is and the number of people it will hold? I have never been to a game in Elmira to date.
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they were there when I played for Elmira in 83',looked pretty new then
 
Re: Elmira possibly moving to First Arena?

hawk said:
Speaking of recruits as is the case at Norwich the coaching staffs like to keep as much info as possible under the radar for various reasons. It seems this year even Oswego and Plattsburgh are keeping the recruit info close to the vest so the recruits posted doesn't reflect what is coming in. The D1 transfers are also for the most part off the books and can make a big difference as evidenced by the Plattsburgh goaltender pickup last year.

Prez could you give us an idea how old the Domes is and the number of people it will hold? I have never been to a game in Elmira to date.
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Plattsburgh has atleast 7 or 8 recruits listed at www.d3hockey.com.

I wouldn't call that close to the vest.
 
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From a visiting broadcaster perspective, I'd love this move (needless to say perhaps)... even though it probably won't take effect until after I'm gone.
 
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"In a related development, Santulli said he wants to start new negotiations with Elmira College to have the college hockey team play at the arena. There was a proposed agreement years earlier, but college President Thomas Meier has said that STED rejected it the day it was to be signed, Santulli said.
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The college wants to, so it will happen at some point.


It’s a nice facility. Your “own” rink is a huge recruiting tool.
My question would be is there space for both EC teams to have their own rooms. EC just spent a lot of money renovation the Domes lockerroom.
Just saw some recent pictures

And this will be petty to some, 1st thing I think of who gets center ice logo?
If I had to guess, I would say the Jackals fold or relo within next 2-5 years and EC takes over a priority tenant.

In my day we packed the Domes. But it was mostly locals and the only students that drove where friends and girlfriends (and their friends) of the players.
 
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