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Elections 2012: Congressional and Gubernatorial

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geezer said:
What idiot ever had that race as a tossup? Michigan will never elect a Republican senator. Unless Detroit ever finishes its vanishing act and disappears completely.
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Well, not as long as West Michigan conservatives keep running away with the primaries, they won't.

There's a reason Snyder's governor while DeVos didn't get close.
 
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geezer said:
What idiot ever had that race as a tossup? Michigan will never elect a Republican senator. Unless Detroit ever finishes its vanishing act and disappears completely.
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I think RCP might use polling averages and not factor in outliers. Some new polling outfit in Michigan had Romney leading by 14 points, so they probably had a similar spread in the Senate race which was altering the #'s.
 
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Rover said:
I think RCP might use polling averages and not factor in outliers. Some new polling outfit in Michigan had Romney leading by 14 points, so they probably had a similar spread in the Senate race which was altering the #'s.
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RCP is not as careful as 538 in dealing with bizarre or biased polls. When there are fewer polls (like a Senate race) there is more volatility.
 
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Sorry to interupt your regularly scheduled political flamewar, but I have a question. This isn't directly related to congressional and gubernatorial elections, but this is the closest I'll get.

Does anyone know of a good source for information on local candidates for city and county offices? I'm talking about mayor, city council, county commissioner, etc. that don't run under any political party. I want to do some research on where the local candidates stand on our local issues (biggest example is, there is a push for my city to put in a city sewer system, which is a stupid idea because everyone already has a septic system, and I just replaced mine, so I want to vote against any idiot that wants city sewer). What do you use to get this information? Is there a website for your area? I'm in the northern suburbs of the Twin Cities, if anyone out there knows of a website for my area, that would be great. Or do I have to go around and pick up local newspapers and newsletters and pick up pieces here and there?

Thanks for the help.
 
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I've always had to wait for local papers to come out with something in a special section the week before on "What the candidates stand for.", though you could try the online versions of the local papers. You might want to call to see if they do something like that there, too. Otherwise see if there's a pro or anti-sewer group that made a website, maybe?
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Sorry to interupt your regularly scheduled political flamewar, but I have a question. This isn't directly related to congressional and gubernatorial elections, but this is the closest I'll get.

Does anyone know of a good source for information on local candidates for city and county offices? I'm talking about mayor, city council, county commissioner, etc. that don't run under any political party. I want to do some research on where the local candidates stand on our local issues (biggest example is, there is a push for my city to put in a city sewer system, which is a stupid idea because everyone already has a septic system, and I just replaced mine, so I want to vote against any idiot that wants city sewer). What do you use to get this information? Is there a website for your area? I'm in the northern suburbs of the Twin Cities, if anyone out there knows of a website for my area, that would be great. Or do I have to go around and pick up local newspapers and newsletters and pick up pieces here and there?

Thanks for the help.
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I'd almost recommend looking the candidate up in the phone book and ask. Sometimes candidates have websites, so you could go through there. Try doing a Google search on the candidates.
 
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"But more than that you see, I have confidence in ME!!

Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan plans to begin airing ads in Wisconsin as he asks voters to elect him to an eighth House term that he hopes to never serve.
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The American Conservative advises follow the money as Wall Street may begin abandoning Romney.

The second number to watch is fundraising totals. The business community – Wall Street in particular – has been overwhelmingly supportive of Mitt Romney this year. But that is neither typical – there was a lot of support for Obama last time around, from Wall Street in particular – nor particularly wise if a Romney victory is doubtful.

Paul Krugman suspects that the Romney campaign’s attempts to spin away President Obama’s poll lead is an effort to prevent corporate donors from hedging their bets by donating to Obama as well. I doubt that – spinning is what campaigns do; they don’t need a reason. But he’s right that if it looks like Obama has a good chance of winning, he should suddenly discover that Wall Street and other corporate donors who have been shunning him become much more generous. President Obama’s fundraising numbers have already been perfectly respectable, but if they become substantially better than respectable that will be another sign that the smart money thinks this game is probably over.
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So Romney's running mate is already flying the white flag, and Wall St. firms are jumping on the Barry Bandwagon. Surprise, surprise. There is nothing left that could turn this thing for "Mitt" Romney.
 
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Rover said:
When I saw Obama even up Romney in fund raising this month, I was wondering if some "hedging their bets" was going on.
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Curious if anyone can remember an instance that a pres. candidate raised less money, and won. Or is it a perfect indicator?
 
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geezer said:
Curious if anyone can remember an instance that a pres. candidate raised less money, and won. Or is it a perfect indicator?
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According to the FEC, Dole outraised Clinton $45M - $42M. However, that $87M in direct contributions was only a small portion of the nearly $500M total funds raised.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Sorry to interupt your regularly scheduled political flamewar, but I have a question. This isn't directly related to congressional and gubernatorial elections, but this is the closest I'll get.

Does anyone know of a good source for information on local candidates for city and county offices? I'm talking about mayor, city council, county commissioner, etc. that don't run under any political party. I want to do some research on where the local candidates stand on our local issues (biggest example is, there is a push for my city to put in a city sewer system, which is a stupid idea because everyone already has a septic system, and I just replaced mine, so I want to vote against any idiot that wants city sewer). What do you use to get this information? Is there a website for your area? I'm in the northern suburbs of the Twin Cities, if anyone out there knows of a website for my area, that would be great. Or do I have to go around and pick up local newspapers and newsletters and pick up pieces here and there?

Thanks for the help.
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Try not to laugh or roll your eyes, but the League of Women Voters traditionally puts out a pretty comprehensive voter's guide for races across the country. You might see if they have one for your locality.
 
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unofan said:
Try not to laugh or roll your eyes, but the League of Women Voters traditionally puts out a pretty comprehensive voter's guide for races across the country. You might see if they have one for your locality.
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They rock. When they hosted the debates actual questions got asked (which was inconvenient for the candidates, so we got the current system of the networks being stenographers for power).

Most cities also have an "alternative" weekly that prints each ballot measure and the official pro and con argument for it. It's usually pretty easy to suss out who's lying.
 
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Re: Elections 2012: Congressional and Gubernatorial

bigblue_dl said:
Sorry to interupt your regularly scheduled political flamewar, but I have a question. This isn't directly related to congressional and gubernatorial elections, but this is the closest I'll get.

Does anyone know of a good source for information on local candidates for city and county offices? I'm talking about mayor, city council, county commissioner, etc. that don't run under any political party. I want to do some research on where the local candidates stand on our local issues (biggest example is, there is a push for my city to put in a city sewer system, which is a stupid idea because everyone already has a septic system, and I just replaced mine, so I want to vote against any idiot that wants city sewer). What do you use to get this information? Is there a website for your area? I'm in the northern suburbs of the Twin Cities, if anyone out there knows of a website for my area, that would be great. Or do I have to go around and pick up local newspapers and newsletters and pick up pieces here and there?

Thanks for the help.
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relying on septic systems places a limit on population density and restricts the growth of your town (hard to call someplace without city sewer a city!).
 
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