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Easter 2010: Alleluia, Christ has risen!

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Religions aside, these are awesome.

Have a great day, all.
But why are they called "jelly" beans, when there's no jelly in them? And why do people make those awful spiced jelly beans? Like the last page or so of this thread, they're horrible.
 
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I love being Lutheran. It's the McDonald's drive thru of Christianity.

all of the sinning, none of the guilt. :)

But why are they called "jelly" beans, when there's no jelly in them? And why do people make those awful spiced jelly beans? Like the last page or so of this thread, they're horrible.

peach Jelly Belly for the win!

In all seriousness, reading Foxton's posts make me angry as a "believer". My faith has been seriously shaken over the past 8-9 years but it's quite clear I still believe in God and the concept of the Bible. Like anything, the Bible is flawed. I get that. But that's what faith is all about. It's believing in something that you can't prove. We all do it with sports; we believe our team can achieve what is not there. Look at Brent and his blind faith of the Gophers this year. :p

The point is, today is a day that Christians can claim as their own, and those of us who are not particularly religious anymore can still say that today has meaning for us. For me, it meant Waffle House and delicious hashbrowns. :D

Happy Easter to all of you. And Foxton, you suck.
 
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Is this some kind of street cred making it OK to mock people? Please, help me understand why this is relevant.

Where did I mock you? I was simply responding to your assertion that "Rather than take the opportunity to explore the faith of others, examine their own conscience, or simply to leave others to their own belief, they choose instead to mock, ridicule and scorn." I just wanted to show that some (most?) don't turn their backs on faith without fully studying the issue.

But your answer to "persecution" is to persecute right back. I think that's in the bible somewhere though, so I guess it's OK.

Where did I persecute you? I have no problem with people practicing their faiths provided it is not on government property, on government time or on the government's dollar. Or on my time, property or dollar.

All you had to say - but of course, I'm sure threads celebrating Ramadan and Yom Kippur will be equally slandered as this one was.

I would hope no threads regarding religion would be slandered. I only posted here after it had devolved and blanket statements about what I believe were being thrown around. If a Ramadan or Yom Kippur thread did the same, I would say something largely the same.

I'm sorry, but trying to share one's faith with those who do not believe is not persecution. My choice to pray for those who do not believe isn't persecution either. Don't like it? Ignore it. Don't try to make yourself feel better by trying to degrade someone else's beliefs (or lack thereof).

Your choice to pray for someone privately isn't an issue. If people want to pray for me, that's fine. It's their time. I don't think it does anything, but what people do in the privacy of their own home on their own time is no one's business but their own. And I will gladly discuss religion with someone. I don't see where I degraded your beliefs. I just said I disagreed with them.
 
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Where did I mock you? I was simply responding to your assertion that "Rather than take the opportunity to explore the faith of others, examine their own conscience, or simply to leave others to their own belief, they choose instead to mock, ridicule and scorn." I just wanted to show that some (most?) don't turn their backs on faith without fully studying the issue.

A) I didn't say you mocked me.
B) I was pretty clearly referring to people that have posted in this thread.

Awful defensive, aren't you?

Where did I persecute you? I have no problem with people practicing their faiths provided it is not on government property, on government time or on the government's dollar. Or on my time, property or dollar.

Again, I didn't say you were persecuting me. Sheesh.

I would hope no threads regarding religion would be slandered. I only posted here after it had devolved and blanket statements about what I believe were being thrown around. If a Ramadan or Yom Kippur thread did the same, I would say something largely the same.

I suspect they wouldn't be, but that's only based on what I've seen in the past.

Your choice to pray for someone privately isn't an issue. If people want to pray for me, that's fine. It's their time. I don't think it does anything, but what people do in the privacy of their own home on their own time is no one's business but their own. And I will gladly discuss religion with someone. I don't see where I degraded your beliefs. I just said I disagreed with them.

You are either really, really defensive here or really, really self centered. I'll choose to believe the former. I never said YOU mocked me, persecuted me, or degraded my beliefs.
 
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A) I didn't say you mocked me.
B) I was pretty clearly referring to people that have posted in this thread.

Awful defensive, aren't you?



Again, I didn't say you were persecuting me. Sheesh.



I suspect they wouldn't be, but that's only based on what I've seen in the past.



You are either really, really defensive here or really, really self centered. I'll choose to believe the former. I never said YOU mocked me, persecuted me, or degraded my beliefs.

I'm sorry. I just assumed you were talking to me because you were quoting my statements while using the pronoun "you." We really need to develop a plural "you" in the English language. (Note: not "y'all").

My bad.
 
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I'm sorry. I just assumed you were talking to me because you were quoting my statements while using the pronoun "you." We really need to develop a plural "you" in the English language. (Note: not "y'all").

My bad.
To an Oklahoman, "y'all" isn't plural. "Y'all two" is the plural. Sadly, I'm being serious.
 
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My choice to pray for those who do not believe isn't persecution either. Don't like it? Ignore it. Don't try to make yourself feel better by trying to degrade someone else's beliefs (or lack thereof).

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I admit my intolerance, however, Foxton is just flaming for the sake of flaming. Then again, he is a flamer so it is to be expected.

Just like a Catholic to be against alternative lifestyles.

(If you're not Catholic, I apologize)
 
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Episcopalian, and no offense taken. However, I am still against and repulsed by alternative lifestyles.
2000 years ago you'd be praying to Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Pluto, etc, perhaps calling Jesus a blasphemer for claiming to be the Son of Him.

Where would your life be without the alternative sorts?

And to the Easter side of things, maybe next Sunday you should attend a gay church out in Mass, see how very different they are. My girlie gaymo friend was just approached to sing her church's choir.
 
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I like the Bertie Bott's Every Flovor bean. :D
 
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Long post.

This is so full of logical failures its astounding. You could just say you believe in the rising of Yeshua from the grave and that's all you need to say. Faith is just that, faith. There is no proof of that faith that's what faith is!

But here's the deal. The New Testament is a collection of words. Words that were primarily if not completely written until after the death of Yeshua.

Here is where I can nip you at the bud. You say that the New Testament is proof that the resurrection happened. No. It's proof that the writers *believe* he rose from the dead or that they believed it would be best to gain new followers by saying he rose from the dead to make his story even more inspirational. That faith can be powerful, inspirational, etc. Did he rise from the dead? I'm not sure. I wasn't there so I can't say. But to say it's proof is arrogant and delusional, and not to mention illogical. You've created a loop where proof begets proof.

Of course every religion says they are the only way. Of course! How can you win out on faith if people can shop around for whichever religion best suits them! How would a religion work if they said they weren't the only true way to salvation? Believing Christ is the only way to salvation means you are dooming everyone else on Earth who lived at the time of Yeshua who didn't have an opportunity to receive the word of God, Native Americans, Asia, etc. South American natives as well. The New Testament suggests that God had changed from the bloodthirsty militant one from the Old Testament to a loving forgiving God. But using the words of the New Testament right off the bat God dooms to hell all of my ancestors, all of China, Europe, South America and North America at the time of Yeshua's rising to Hell. I can't root for that kind of God. And if you're asking me to take complete faith in the Bible, I cannot do so.

Have a great Easter and enjoy the bounty God has given you, Dean. May everyone have a great Easter Sunday.
 
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