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Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Now back to our nostalgic look into our childhood. Back on the topic of "I Love Lucy" anyone have a favorite episode?

I once participated in a Factory Automation project. For the kick-off, they played the episode of Lucy and Ethel in the Chocolate factory... That's got to be my favorite!
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Originally Posted by ccookie79 View Post
I have NEVER posted on a site that trashes the girls on Brown's Hockey team. Au Contraire, mon ami! The team members ARE my concern. ALL of them. No blind allegiance to authority, here. Just ask Hux....

Perhaps you have not bashed girls specifically, but by coming on here bashing the program, you are indirectly bashing the girls that play for the program.

Nonsense. You might just as well argue that by coming on here bashing parents posting their concerns about the team, you are indirectly bashing their daughters that play for the program.

I've no connection to it, but it's obvious to me that the Brown program is in trouble. Each time there's a thread concerning it a lot of people who have no connection to the program seem to feel obligated to belittle the people who do have some connection and are expressing their concerns. There is no justification for it. You aren't thread sheriffs. Don't like the subject, don't read the thread.

If the program continues on the path it's on, imploding may well be the mildest term people will use down the road. Here's hoping all the hockey mavens ridiculing the Brown parents' concerns today will feel enough chagrin to refrain from opinionating then.
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Nonsense. You might just as well argue that by coming on here bashing parents posting their concerns about the team, you are indirectly bashing their daughters that play for the program.

I've no connection to it, but it's obvious to me that the Brown program is in trouble. Each time there's a thread concerning it a lot of people who have no connection to the program seem to feel obligated to belittle the people who do have some connection and are expressing their concerns. There is no justification for it. You aren't thread sheriffs. Don't like the subject, don't read the thread.

If the program continues on the path it's on, imploding may well be the mildest term people will use down the road. Here's hoping all the hockey mavens ridiculing the Brown parents' concerns today will feel enough chagrin to refrain from opinionating then.


You are so right, stating how the team is not as good with the new players, is not in any way an insult to the players that are currently on the team. Falsely stating that a freshman with a season ending injury, who has been playing injured the first half of the season, is bailing on the team, is in no way an attack on the players.....You are so right, this is all about the coaching staff and the program and nothing about the players. My mistake, I thought the players were part of the program. They are the ones out there playing the game, not you, me, or most anyone else on these boards. What is the benefit of bashing the program on the board in three different threads? Is it going to suddenly change the way Digit coaches or Brown handles their program, I doubt it. Wouldn't it be better to contact Brown directly with your concerns? If there are so many disgruntled previous players, why not get a petition together and present it to the AD. Seems to me that those steps would be better at achieving your goal to remove the coach then bitc*ing on a message board.


For those reading the thread for nostalgia, one of my favorite episodes of I Love Lucy was the meat locker with Lucy locked in the freezer
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Nonsense. You might just as well argue that by coming on here bashing parents posting their concerns about the team, you are indirectly bashing their daughters that play for the program.

I've no connection to it, but it's obvious to me that the Brown program is in trouble. Each time there's a thread concerning it a lot of people who have no connection to the program seem to feel obligated to belittle the people who do have some connection and are expressing their concerns. There is no justification for it. You aren't thread sheriffs. Don't like the subject, don't read the thread.

If the program continues on the path it's on, imploding may well be the mildest term people will use down the road. Here's hoping all the hockey mavens ridiculing the Brown parents' concerns today will feel enough chagrin to refrain from opinionating then.

We are not ridiculing the Brown parents' concerns, we are ridiculing their coming to this forum without specific facts (and sometimes even wrong information - see injured player who walked out on the team) about why there is turnover on the Brown roster, complaining about a coach's demeanor and equating those actions with the demise of the Brown team. News flash - Digit has been the same "charming" :rolleyes: character behind the bench for a long time.

When challenged, none of them admitted to doing the basic research of asking Digit (or the players themselves) about the players on her roster and why they were no longer there - something that anyone researching a prospective team should ask. They didn't help their daughters figure this out, so they have nobody to blame but themselves.

The one fact that they do have correct is that Brown's record has been slipping, but for all of the ADs/Coaches in the stands that doesn't take much talent to call for the coach's head.

No, what you have here are a bunch of whiney parents who can't get the idea that the overwhelming majority of the members here don't appreciate their trashing any coach's reputation without substantial facts. Especially at the beginning of a season - an action and message to their daughters that the season is lost before November is done is not helpful to the situation.

I think you have some misplaced sympathy here. You'd be surprised how much good will there is here for parents at other struggling programs. If you go back a couple of years and look at one poster who cheered on her daughter's struggling program at Chatham, you'd see plenty of sympathy for her especially for getting one poster (who didn't even have a girl in hockey) banned who was getting very personal and sexist in his attacks. While at times you could see that she was uncomfortable with some of the situations at the school, she was respectful in her comments and earned plenty of respect from many here including myself (alleged Digit Booster and Brown Parent hater). And she still posts around here, even after her daughter finished her time in hockey.

Yes the Brown program is struggling. A legitimate discussion topic, if posters have actual facts or even some good analysis. But that is not a free pass for the parents of that program to trash the coach(s) without presenting real information.

I fully endorse the change of topic as a more humane way to drown out that noise rather than having to explain this over and over.

Now where were we??? Oh, yeah. I Love Lucy....
 
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Again, you are not thread sheriffs. You have no basis for standing completely outside the program and trivializing their concerns as coming from whiny parents. If you are convinced that these are just whiny parents, don't read the thread. There is no reason to drown out on topic comments with a trivia contest.
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Again, you are not thread sheriffs. You have no basis for standing completely outside the program and trivializing their concerns as coming from whiny parents. If you are convinced that these are just whiny parents, don't read the thread. There is no reason to drown out on topic comments with a trivia contest.

and there is no reason to take three different threads to discuss the same topic, it is redundant. Notice no one started "trivializing" concerns until the third thread was posted by the same unhappy camper.
 
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Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Again, you are not thread sheriffs. You have no basis for standing completely outside the program and trivializing their concerns as coming from whiny parents. If you are convinced that these are just whiny parents, don't read the thread. There is no reason to drown out on topic comments with a trivia contest.

Uh, I have clearly explained in several posts my assessment of their activities with ample arguments and supporting facts. And more than a dozen postitive reps I've gotten (thank you all out there for the kind words) suggest that I am not the only one who thinks this way. I think I've had 2 neg reps during this time. You are free to add the 3rd, should you desire.

If you don't like the direction the thread has turned you have 2 options. You can flag all of the non-topical posts using that little button (the red triangle with the exclaimation point in it) or take your own advice and don't read the thread. I'm sure the moderators will have a good time chuckling at your thread policing and calling the kettle black.

Please step back, consider the number and reputation of the members who are engage in this activity, and ask yourself why all of these smart folks doing this? They must know something...
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

The current discussion of TV shows seems to be against the following USCHO Guideline:

-Thread-Killing, or flooding a thread with inappropriate or unrelated posts, is prohibited. These posts will be removed. If you feel a thread is inappropriate, report it to the moderators.

Perhaps this type of off-topic discussion is better suited for the USCHO Café?

Source:USCO Fan Forum Posting Guidelines
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

The current discussion of TV shows seems to be against the following USCHO Guideline:

-Thread-Killing, or flooding a thread with inappropriate or unrelated posts, is prohibited. These posts will be removed. If you feel a thread is inappropriate, report it to the moderators.

Perhaps this type of off-topic discussion is better suited for the USCHO Café?

Source:USCO Fan Forum Posting Guidelines

WOW. Even went so far as to look up the rules. Now that's impressive. I have been a visitor to this site for 3 years and never knew these rules existed. Some of you must really be pi--ing off the whiners.:eek:
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

As long as it has nothing to do with Digit or Brown, it's all good! :D


This and a few other posts on this thread would indicate that shifting the content was purposeful, thus a violation of the USCHO guidelines. I am all for free speech, I just wonder if the topic of TV Shows would be a better fit for the USCHO Cafe'.
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

This and a few other posts on this thread would indicate that shifting the content was purposeful, thus a violation of the USCHO guidelines. I am all for free speech, I just wonder if the topic of TV Shows would be a better fit for the USCHO Cafe'.

Perhaps you'll find a more sympathetic audience there... I'd have no objections if the mods moved it there - where the unfounded criping about coaches belongs. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

Perhaps you'll find a more sympathetic audience there... I'd have no objections if the mods moved it there - where the unfounded criping about coaches belongs. :rolleyes:

From the Fan Forum Guidelines Introduction:
The USCHO Fan Forum is a place where all college hockey fans can come and express their opinions and thoughts. It is a gathering place for the disciples of the world's greatest sport.

I am not looking for a sympathetic audience, I am interested in reading ALL hockey fans opinions and thoughts on hockey.
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

The current discussion of TV shows seems to be against the following USCHO Guideline:

-Thread-Killing, or flooding a thread with inappropriate or unrelated posts, is prohibited. These posts will be removed. If you feel a thread is inappropriate, report it to the moderators.

Perhaps this type of off-topic discussion is better suited for the USCHO Café?

Source:USCO Fan Forum Posting Guidelines

I believe that if you read through the posts, you will see that the point is not that the thread is inappropriate.

Maybe by the third thread, but even then, I'll leave it to your discerning judgment to figure out what the point might be. After all, you're a Brown Parent, and I'm not.

... and just to be clear:

"Does Brown care about women's hockey?"

Perhaps that should be a poll.

My answer: Yes.

Thread relevant?

And I'm a big fan of Get Smart.

You might want to check that out.

Meaning the TV show.
 
Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

From the Fan Forum Guidelines Introduction:
The USCHO Fan Forum is a place where all college hockey fans can come and express their opinions and thoughts. It is a gathering place for the disciples of the world's greatest sport.

I am not looking for a sympathetic audience, I am interested in reading ALL hockey fans opinions and thoughts on hockey.

since we are posting rules here are some that the original poster failed to follow:

"Personal attacks, defamation, libel or flaming will not be tolerated."

"Only one thread regarding a particular topic will be allowed. Duplicate threads discussing the same or very similar topics will be either merged or deleted."
 
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since we are posting rules here are some that the original poster failed to follow:

"Personal attacks, defamation, libel or flaming will not be tolerated."

"Only one thread regarding a particular topic will be allowed. Duplicate threads discussing the same or very similar topics will be either merged or deleted."

Thank you for making my point.
 
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T I am all for free speech, '.

Then go SPEAK to the coaching staff at Brown. The rest of us WILL read the thread, because not only do we care about Brown Women's Hockey, we care about ALL Women's Hockey.

If those of you who waste all your passion on these threads spent it trying to effect a change at the school, be it coaching staff or administrative/athletic admin, you'd be too busy to make us mistake your POISON for passion
 
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Re: Does Brown care about women's hockey?

I'm sure the moderators will have a good time chuckling at your thread policing and calling the kettle black.

You think purposely thread killing and pointing it out as such are equivalent?

Please step back, consider the number and reputation of the members who are engage in this activity, and ask yourself why all of these smart folks doing this? They must know something...

The group that keeps jumping on the Brown parents is about 10. Reputation and the number of posts they make are fine achievements, but that does not mean they know something relevant on this subject except in the most general way.

I don't have a direct connection to the program, but I know players and families who had their fill and left the program in the past and some there now. Try considering the following instead of jumping off like you did in one of if not the first comment you made of the subject in the first thread and characterizing these parents as whiners. While at the same time other highly reputed posters were questioning the commitment and dedication of the players based on conversations with the coach.

These are parents who have watched players over the last several years who have played for one of if not the premier club program in the country throughout their careers quit the team. These are players who also attended one of the top preps in Mass, played 3 season sports, and never saw a prep hockey season end before postseason and more than a few D1 Prep championships and not from the bench. And Sundays from September to April they skated club. and gtave up every holiday weekend during that time to hockey - parents and players. Their prep school sends players every year to Ivy programs and no one is surprised when they make immediate impact. You have other players with hockey and academic resumes just as impressive from both sides of the border. The players that came up through this and left the Brown program were not bench warmers there. When it came down to 1-2 rotations they were the ones on the ice. They were not first year players, but Brown veterans.

They didn't leave because they were hard to coach or lazy or not dedicated and the parents were supportive and dedicated not whiners. And neither can the parents or players cut from the same mold who are still there and witnessing and experiencing what is going on be gratuitously characterized that way.
 
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