Division 1 Commitments 2014-15

[rdf8585]

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I haven't seen a thing about any names for Union next year, either. I'm surprised... would have expected at least one name to surface by now for next fall.

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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- Does Minnesota State really need 9 kids?

Other than UM who is missing 2 kids on Team USA, MSU currently has the smallest roster in WCHA at 23. They graduate 8 kids (9 if you include the transfer who is no longer on roster). 9 gets them to 24 next year.

 

[bc6696]

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RPI
Whitney Renn............F................(Little Caesars)................Troy, MI

 

[coloposts]

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Nikki Friesen has committed to Harvard (CO Select)

 

[Watson Rink]

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HockeyEast33 recently wrote:

"- Harvard with another fairly large class that will come into a roster situation that has too many to begin with next season.....will someone get cut in admissions again?"

And I concurred.....by recent experience, 26 definitely seems like way too many. (18 on the roster now - 2 graduating + 4 upperclassmen returning + 6 on Hux's list of prospectives = 26, including 7 seniors, meaning it will immediately drop back to 19 plus prospectives in 2015-2016).

But then I read:

Other than UM who is missing 2 kids on Team USA, MSU currently has the smallest roster in WCHA at 23. They graduate 8 kids (9 if you include the transfer who is no longer on roster). 9 gets them to 24 next year.

Smallest roster in WCHA is 23? Do they play 25 minute periods or something? That's quite a difference from Harvard's current 18....

 

[Rogie21]

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Rebecca Leslie verbal to BU reported.
http://centre-ice.ca/blog/2013/12/1...es-standout-play-at-u18-nationals-turns-heads

 

[Call It]

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Smallest roster in WCHA is 23? Do they play 25 minute periods or something? That's quite a difference from Harvard's current 18....

This is one of the reasons players don't make it through 4 years of college hockey. Women who don't play quit. When I read the commitments listed here, I often shake my head at some of the players going D1 vs D3. If you are #23 on the depth chart, you might have been better served playing D3. I know school choice comes into play and a variety of other factors but for the most part playing D3 is a better option.

 

[THE Icemom]

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This is one of the reasons players don't make it through 4 years of college hockey. Women who don't play quit. When I read the commitments listed here, I often shake my head at some of the players going D1 vs D3. If you are #23 on the depth chart, you might have been better served playing D3. I know school choice comes into play and a variety of other factors but for the most part playing D3 is a better option.

But they can say they play D1...who is going to look and see that they are not seeing ice time. D3 and playing or D1 and sitting, let's think about this ladies, what would you rather be doing.

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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This is one of the reasons players don't make it through 4 years of college hockey. Women who don't play quit. When I read the commitments listed here, I often shake my head at some of the players going D1 vs D3. If you are #23 on the depth chart, you might have been better served playing D3. I know school choice comes into play and a variety of other factors but for the most part playing D3 is a better option.

Looks like a lot of DIII kids (maybe more than DI) must quit then...

Top 12 Ranked DIII Schools Avg. Roster size = 23.58
1. Plattsburgh - 26
2. Middlebury - 26
3. Norwich - 25
4. Elmira - 22
5. Stevens Point - 25
6. St. Scholastica - 21
7. River Falls - 22
8. Guztavas - 25
9. Superior - 20
10. Amherst - 21
11. Bethel - 25
12. Utica - 25

 

[Call It]

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Looks like a lot of DIII kids (maybe more than DI) must quit then...

Top 12 Ranked DIII Schools Avg. Roster size = 23.58
1. Plattsburgh - 26
2. Middlebury - 26
3. Norwich - 25
4. Elmira - 22
5. Stevens Point - 25
6. St. Scholastica - 21
7. River Falls - 22
8. Guztavas - 25
9. Superior - 20
10. Amherst - 21
11. Bethel - 25
12. Utica - 25

I would be curious about the stats… what are the number of women college hockey players that play all 4 years? Both D1 & D3? Anyone know?

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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Some good insights into keeping the "role players" happy. http://www.uscho.com/2013/12/23/like-parenting-coaching-is-a-full-time-job/

I think it boils down to realistic expectations and being flexible no matter where you play, DI or DIII.

 

[Hux]

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But they can say they play D1...who is going to look and see that they are not seeing ice time. D3 and playing or D1 and sitting, let's think about this ladies, what would you rather be doing.

Surprisingly, you stand a better chance of sitting as a DIII player than as a walk-on in D1. Most of the DIII programs have tryouts where upwards of 30 players will show up, resulting in bloated rosters. The D1 teams tend towards 20-23 rostered players, and invariably players are out for extended periods of time with injuries or illness, and that 13th forward or 7th D is seeing regular ice.

 

[DedicatedFan]

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Looks like a lot of DIII kids (maybe more than DI) must quit then...
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Girls stop playing hockey for a number of reasons, one of which is lack of playing time. If I read Call It’s post correctly, he wasn’t talking about the D3 walk-on, but rather the player who is borderline D1/D3. That player stands a pretty good chance of being a starter and major contributor on a D3 team as opposed to the possibility of very little, if any, playing time at D1. But, being able to say “I/my daughter played D1” is more important to some players/parents than actually getting playing time. Aside from receiving scholarship money, I believe if a player truly loves the game and the player and parents are honest with themselves, she will choose to play D3 and probably have a very successful time of it. I’m pretty sure 10 or 20 years from now, it’s not really going to matter much one way or the other.

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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Girls stop playing hockey for a number of reasons, one of which is lack of playing time. If I read Call It’s post correctly, he wasn’t talking about the D3 walk-on, but rather the player who is borderline D1/D3. That player stands a pretty good chance of being a starter and major contributor on a D3 team as opposed to the possibility of very little, if any, playing time at D1. But, being able to say “I/my daughter played D1” is more important to some players/parents than actually getting playing time. Aside from receiving scholarship money, I believe if a player truly loves the game and the player and parents are honest with themselves, she will choose to play D3 and probably have a very successful time of it. I’m pretty sure 10 or 20 years from now, it’s not really going to matter much one way or the other.

I guess I was trying to sarcasticly make my point with my response about DIII players quitting. Hux was more direct - roster size isn't a good indicator because DIIIs probably have bigger rosters and more kids getting less playing time.

As for the borderline D1/D3 kid, it boils down to doing your homework and being realistic when you join a team. This is a broader issue of making sure you look at all factors that should be considered when picking a program - playing time is only one of them (admittedly it was a big factor for my daughter). On the flip side of playing time, a D1/D3 kid who expects to play all the time and be THE star at DIII might be just as disappointed when the coach doesn't have her out for every power play as a freshman and actually expects them to take short/regular shifts.

 

[ARM]

But, being able to say “I/my daughter played D1” is more important to some players/parents than actually getting playing time.

Don't assume that you have a better understanding of a particular young lady's situation than she does. I remember speaking with one player who played very little as a D-I frosh and didn't even get to dress a lot of the time. She said she took the comments of people who said that she would never make it in D-I and should have gone D-III instead as motivation. By the time her career was over, she was a contributor and a senior captain. Everyone is different and has to decide for herself what is the best fit for her.

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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Don't assume that you have a better understanding of a particular young lady's situation than she does. I remember speaking with one player who played very little as a D-I frosh and didn't even get to dress a lot of the time. She said she took the comments of people who said that she would never make it in D-I and should have gone D-III instead as motivation. By the time her career was over, she was a contributor and a senior captain. Everyone is different and has to decide for herself what is the best fit for her.

I'll go one better - team Captain and given a full scholarship her senior year (this year).

 

[GC2]

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RMU
Jessica Gazzola F Thunder Bay, On Toronto Jr Aeros
Amanda Pantaleo F Markham, On Toronto Jr Aeros
Natalie Fraser D Orleans, On Ottawa Senators
Leah Carey D Middleton, WI Madison Capitals

 

[Call It]

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I'll go one better - team Captain and given a full scholarship her senior year (this year).

Everyone likes to hear stories like the above but that is a rare occassion.

 

[Call It]

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Surprisingly, you stand a better chance of sitting as a DIII player than as a walk-on in D1. Most of the DIII programs have tryouts where upwards of 30 players will show up, resulting in bloated rosters. The D1 teams tend towards 20-23 rostered players, and invariably players are out for extended periods of time with injuries or illness, and that 13th forward or 7th D is seeing regular ice.

Perhaps but I am referring to the D1 bubble player that goes D1 rather than D3. If you are the 15th forward on the depth chart, odds are you didn't receive a scholarship. Thus for the majority of players, they would perhaps be better served going D3. Both financially, hockey wise and probably would open up more possible schools. If you are a D1 bubble player, you most likely don't have to worry that much about try-outs.

Many of the young ladies that I have talked to after their four years were complete wished they had gone D3. D1 is a grind, a job, a HUGE commitment.

 

[Call It]

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But they can say they play D1...who is going to look and see that they are not seeing ice time. D3 and playing or D1 and sitting, let's think about this ladies, what would you rather be doing.

Ummm, many people look to see who is playing and all the other stats.. They players who don't play complain about it to a lot of people. You ask the question of "what would you rather be doing?" I would hope they would want to play! A great number of players in D3 could be great D1 players, perhaps they don't have egos. Or maybe they understand that there is no NHL for women.