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Div III NCAA Rankings

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First regional rankings are out:

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REGION/RANK	SCHOOL	IN-DIVISION RECORD	OVERALL RECORD
EAST			
1	Plattsburgh State	               21-1-1	            21-1-1
2	Middlebury	                       17-2-4	            17-2-4
3	Elmira                                 18-4-1	            18-4-1
4	Norwich	                               17-3-0	            21-3-0
5	Amherst	                               11-5-5	            12-5-5
6	Salve Regina	                       13-2-3	            15-6-4
			
			
WEST			
1	Wisconsin-River Falls	               16-4-3	            16-4-3
2	Wisconsin-Stevens Point	               16-4-4	            16-4-4
3	St. Thomas (Minn.)	               15-5-3	            15-5-3
4	Wisconsin-Superior	               14-4-6	            14-4-6
5	Gustavus Adolphus	               15-6-2	            15-6-2
6	Bethel	                               16-5-2	            16-5-2
 
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Early line pits Amherst against Superior for the final Pool C slot, assuming no upsets.

Superior has the better Win %, while Amherst smokes them in SOS...

Amherst's record vs ranked teams is what is going to likely kill their chances. Amherst is 0-4-2 against ranked teams right now...Looks like 4v4 split this year to me unless there are major upsets in the East.
 
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Hmmm.... can't speak to the West, but what do the Easterners think about Salve Regina. I haven't see them play this season. According to the NCAA stats, they are 21 out of 30 in strength of schedule (I may be a little off here because I eyeballed it). I look at their schedule and I see all their losses are to Norwich, Holy Cross (D1), Middlebury, and St. A's (D2). They tied Trinity and Colby and beat Wesleyan and Conn College (both 3-2) - bottom half/middle NESCAC teams. They tied Castleton. Their wins are largely against the pretty weak ECAC East teams. They beat the teams they should have, but they don't feel like a 6 seed. That being said, who else would be the 6 seed if they aren't?
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Early line pits Amherst against Superior for the final Pool C slot, assuming no upsets.

Superior has the better Win %, while Amherst smokes them in SOS...

Amherst's record vs ranked teams is what is going to likely kill their chances. Amherst is 0-4-2 against ranked teams right now...Looks like 4v4 split this year to me unless there are major upsets in the East.
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Norwich and Plattsburgh SHOULD be a lock and Elmira almost certainly picks up an at large. I think Middlebury could be an upset - LOTS of close games they played in the NESCAC this season and they are due to lose one.
 
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HockeyEast33 said:
Hmmm.... can't speak to the West, but what do the Easterners think about Salve Regina. I haven't see them play this season. According to the NCAA stats, they are 21 out of 30 in strength of schedule (I may be a little off here because I eyeballed it). I look at their schedule and I see all their losses are to Norwich, Holy Cross (D1), Middlebury, and St. A's (D2). They tied Trinity and Colby and beat Wesleyan and Conn College (both 3-2) - bottom half/middle NESCAC teams. They tied Castleton. Their wins are largely against the pretty weak ECAC East teams. They beat the teams they should have, but they don't feel like a 6 seed. That being said, who else would be the 6 seed if they aren't?
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I think teams like Williams, Utica, Castleton and Oswego might be able to crack their heads into that No. 6 slot by season's end.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Early line pits Amherst against Superior for the final Pool C slot, assuming no upsets.

Superior has the better Win %, while Amherst smokes them in SOS...

Amherst's record vs ranked teams is what is going to likely kill their chances. Amherst is 0-4-2 against ranked teams right now...Looks like 4v4 split this year to me unless there are major upsets in the East.
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The NCAA has ranked none of the teams from the NCHA and one of them will get an auto bid, ranked or not. Barring upsets (and the point HockeyEast33 makes about Middlebury walking to the edge and looking into the abyss is an apt one), I think a 4-4 split is likely.
 
obserbear said:
The NCAA has ranked none of the teams from the NCHA and one of them will get an auto bid, ranked or not. Barring upsets (and the point HockeyEast33 makes about Middlebury walking to the edge and looking into the abyss is an apt one), I think a 4-4 split is likely.
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Good catch. Momentarily lapse on scanning that too quickly.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Good catch. Momentarily lapse on scanning that too quickly.
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With the current rankings that would pit Stevens Point against Amherst...I'm assuming Amherst doesn't fair much better against Stevens Point.

The SOS has always bugged me...does having a stronger SOS but losing all the games against good teams really mean you should get the SOS nod??

According to the USCHO PWC Stevens Point has a higher SOS than Amherst.
 
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EAST
1	Plattsburgh State	23-1-1	23-1-1
2	Norwich	19-3-0	23-3-0
3	Middlebury	17-3-4	17-3-4
4	Elmira	20-4-1	20-4-1
5	Amherst	12-6-5	13-6-5
6	Salve Regina	14-2-3	16-6-4
WEST
1	Wisconsin-River Falls	18-4-3	18-4-3
2	Wisconsin-Stevens Point	17-4-4	17-4-4
3	St. Norbert	17-6-2	17-6-2
4	St. Thomas (Minn.)	17-5-3	17-5-3
5	Gustavus Adolphus	16-7-2	16-7-2
6	Lake Forest	15-5-3	15-5-3

This weeks rankings...a little wierd out west. How does St. Norbert go from unranked last week to 3rd this week? They're also 3rd in their conference??

Did the NCAA forget about the NCHA last week?
 
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It looks like SNC has better numbers this week than UWS - Gustavus - Bethel and very close with 2nd place Scholastica. Their 5-1 record in the Season Ending W/L% is most likely what catapulted them way up there.
 
123kidd said:
It looks like SNC has better numbers this week than UWS - Gustavus - Bethel and very close with 2nd place Scholastica. Their 5-1 record in the Season Ending W/L% is most likely what catapulted them way up there.
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Still makes no sense. How do they shoot by Lake Forest? Both teams have identical 5-1 records past six games playing virtually the same teams, LF beat SNC in that stretch, and LF won the conference.
 
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If conference finish was a primary criteria that the NCAA looks at, maybe LF woul be ahead of SNC. But it's not.
 
123kidd said:
If conference finish was a primary criteria that the NCAA looks at, maybe LF woul be ahead of SNC. But it's not.
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What would it be then? The only change from the week before when St. Norbert wasn't ranked was that they beat Scholastica. Suddenly they move up to 3rd? For what reason? LF beat Scholastica, too, and beat St. Norbert. Not to mention that St. Thomas beat River Falls and they're below St. Norbert, too.
 
pucko said:
What would it be then? The only change from the week before when St. Norbert wasn't ranked was that they beat Scholastica. Suddenly they move up to 3rd? For what reason? LF beat Scholastica, too, and beat St. Norbert. Not to mention that St. Thomas beat River Falls and they're below St. Norbert, too.
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Only explanation is that somebody made a boo boo when they entered data into the computer program.
 
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Rankings for 3/4:

EAST
1 Plattsburgh State 23-1-1 23-1-1
2 Norwich 20-3-0 24-3-0
3 Middlebury 17-4-4 17-4-4
4 Elmira 20-4-1 20-4-1
5 Castleton 14-6-2 16-9-2
6 Amherst 12-7-5 13-7-5

WEST
1 Wisconsin-River Falls 20-4-3 20-4-3
2 Wisconsin-Stevens Point 19-4-4 19-4-4
3 St. Thomas (Minn.) 18-5-3 18-5-3
4 St. Norbert 18-6-2 18-6-2
5 Gustavus Adolphus 17-7-2 17-7-2
6 Lake Forest 15-5-3 15-5-3
 
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I'm new to this forum and I'm really enjoying all the in info provided. Can anyone explain why none of the final four NESCAC teams made it into the top six of the East rankings?
 
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These rankings are done by the NCAA Ice Hockey Committee. They have predetermined criteria that they use and go strictly by the numbers and how teams compare to each other. None of the remaining four NESCAC schools have better numbers than Middlebury or Amherst.
 
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Tjames said:
I'm new to this forum and I'm really enjoying all the in info provided. Can anyone explain why none of the final four NESCAC teams made it into the top six of the East rankings?
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The winner of the NESCAC final on Sunday will receive a bid to the NCAA DIII tournament. Should Middlebury receive a Pool C bid, they may be seeded higher than the NESCAC tournament champion. The NESCAC auto bid team is probably the 8th seed, which would mean a trip to Plattsburgh for a quarter final game. I have some vague memory (nightmare in Black and White) of a quarter final in Stafford some years ago...(look up the NCAA record for the fast goal to begin an NCAA playoff game...hint Liz Gibson).
 
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