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Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settlement

Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

So... you're telling me that not only is there no way the Lions will have anything but a winning record, but there's a decent chance this team will be playing in to January?

* me. Maybe those Mayan elders were on to something.
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

A ten win season after their start was an expectation. Even Scott Mitchell won that many... and then came the playoff games.

Two scenarios: split or lose the remaining games and play @ SF
win the last two and MAYBE slip in as the 5th seed ahead of Atlanta -> opponent TBD

1. GB
2. SF or NO (or Atl)
3. NO, SF (or Atl)
4. ? (Phil, NYG, Dal)
5. Lions or Atlanta or NO
6. Atlanta or Lions

Bears, Seattle, Az and the other two NFC East teams on the outside

The condition of the secondary is so bleak that this win may have been the apex of the season. The front four did nothing yesterday to create any rush, either. Oakland got almost 500 yards of offense. The bonehead melt down type penalties were held to a minimum, but still, no discipline.

On offense, no running game. Making the playoffs is one thing. Winning will be another.

I like the fact that the Lions have progressed, but now their draft status will not allow them to get an impact starter (corner, RB, OT etc.)
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

nmupiccdiva said:
So... you're telling me that not only is there no way the Lions will have anything but a winning record, but there's a decent chance this team will be playing in to January?

* me. Maybe those Mayan elders were on to something.
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I think the world is safe. I'd be getting concerned if Buffalo made the playoffs, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
 
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streaker said:
I like the fact that the Lions have progressed, but now their draft status will not allow them to get an impact starter (corner, RB, OT etc.)
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I go with the theory that the draft status will force them to actually examine players and who is available, as opposed to just picking headline kind of people. It seems as if we are about 50/50 on first round picks, and that's one that always expensive. I'd be happy if they traded picks for quality players.

Could be wrong, but they have just not done great on draft day....
 
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streaker said:
I like the fact that the Lions have progressed, but now their draft status will not allow them to get an impact starter (corner, RB, OT etc.)
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I think it's a myth that you can't get an impact player outside the top ten. Teams like the Packers have been finding those players for years. It might be more difficult, but I think the Lions staff puts them at a good draft day advantage.
 
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nmupiccdiva said:
So... you're telling me that not only is there no way the Lions will have anything but a winning record, but there's a decent chance this team will be playing in to January?

* me. Maybe those Mayan elders were on to something.
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It is possible there.

geezer said:
I think it's a myth that you can't get an impact player outside the top ten. Teams like the Packers have been finding those players for years. It might be more difficult, but I think the Lions staff puts them at a good draft day advantage.
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True, that and right now, what the Lions could really use are some good roll players for depth. We don't really need to put 11 potential Pro Bowl players out there on the field, just a few guys who are going to be very servicable out there and get the job done without being all that flashy about it.
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

Late heroics, along with a little luck have had more to do with where the Lions are, than solid or consistant play.
Their record this season has now exceeded my expectations......and the fact that they are in a position to compete in the playoffs is beyond belief, as we have so many losing seasons in our rear view mirror.

We have a team that has no running game to speak of, that drops catchable balls, that can't convert on 3rd & 2, that can't stop the run or the pass with any consistency, that lack discipline, with special teams prone to giving up big plays........and they have got a shot at making the playoffs. I'm sure there are a few teams that would rather avoid meeting the Lions.......but I honestly can't understand why ?
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

It's very simple.

Win or tie against SD, or one more loss or tie from each of CHI, SEA, and ARI.
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

geezer said:
I think it's a myth that you can't get an impact player outside the top ten. Teams like the Packers have been finding those players for years. It might be more difficult, but I think the Lions staff puts them at a good draft day advantage.
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Comparing the Packers organization to the Lions organization. Elizabeth, I'm comin', it's the big one {clutches chest}.

I suppose it is possible, but outside of Pittsburgh, New England and Green Bay, 26 other clubs have yet to do it consistently. SF may be the closest thing to doing that, now.

The Lions need IMPACT players at key positions to get to the next level. Not projects. A cornerstone OT. A stud cornerback. Running back situation may be an area that they are content with in getting Lesheur back and/or Best back healthy. I'm sure the Lions will try to get the best possible set of players available.

As far as this season, their play has regressed, IMO. The defense, as mentioned is a sieve stopping the run, had little success getting pressure until late in the game (I don't think Cunningham had the benefit of being able to blitz much) and is patchwork in the secondary. They are undisciplined.

The offense has no running game, although arguments are being made that this is a "passing league" and that this aspect isn't as important, unless of course you can't get a half a yard in two plays running against the strength of your opponent. The passing game is solid with good talent- providing they catch the ball.

Special teams are not special, but have not hurt them.

You look at other teams they have played in the NFC and they have improved: SF is a legit threat to GB and Dallas, Atlanta and NO are on par or better than Detroit. Even Arizona and Seattle would give the Lions fits right now.

In other words, I think the Lions overachieved this season and it will slightly hamper their draft status. That's all. To think they will make noise in the playoffs (and thus justify their season) isn't realistic. It's not like they are going to be allowed to come back from a double digit deficit against better teams in the playoffs. They did that four times this season against teams that are either fighting to make the playoffs or are lousy.

They could still finish 9-7, one game over where I thought they would, though. The San Diego game is huge in that regard- 10 wins could change their positioning dramatically.
 
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streaker
Your point is correct in the needs department.

What I don't agree with is that a high draft pick will find them those players. At least not yet- the batting average for draft picks has been more on par with batting. So in this case, I would rather them have to look very closely at what is available instead of getting the draft picks thrown in their faces via the media (as I see the top 10 annually). Historically speaking- say if the Lions got Luck- he would be a bust, as opposed to Indy- who I think he'll fit in with quite well....

So I want the staff to work hard at finding the gem.
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

Streaker alluded to a gem that may already be in their midst. The tandem of Lesheur and a healthy Best will hopefully create balance and help improve an already dangerous passing attack.
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

The RB tandem would be nice if 1) we could keep them healthy for more than two minutes, and 2) we could upgrade our merry band of mental midgets that block for them. A LB and a corner or two is also necessary as well.
 
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Hammer said:
The RB tandem would be nice if 1) we could keep them healthy for more than two minutes, and 2) we could upgrade our merry band of mental midgets that block for them. A LB and a corner or two is also necessary as well.
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Especially if Tulloch decides not to resign.

draft status is important for two reasons:

1. to have chips in the game to deal to teams only looking to add a key piece in exchange for more picks or
2. to deal to a team for more picks in the event they have an extreme need (like a QB)

The Lions would draft anywhere from 21-25th right now. That won't secure much of an impact in their areas of need unless they get real lucky.

Also- keep in mind that, although Alfa is right in the crapshoot assessment on high picks, the probability of securing an immediate starter is greater than a 2nd or 3rd round pick. That is unless you take the WR dujour or "the best available athlete" with that high pick. I'm still waiting for Fairley to deliver his worth.

I saw a "worst" 1st rd. draft pick top 30 ever rundown somewhere and the Lions made it with Ware, Rogers and Williams IIRC.
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
 
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54862062@N08/6010480634/" title="Giant Lion by serenitybob, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6015/6010480634_6393e928c2.jpg" width="450" height="300" alt="Giant Lion"></a>
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

It was a great feel good day for Lions fans and Detroit. Here's to the hope that it will continue to build to bigger things in the future.

FYI- This marks the first time ever that the Lions, Tigers and Red Wings made the playoffs in the same year since 1931.

But, this was sad: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...ed-by-bus-in-Detroit-following-Lions--victory
 
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"There's going to come a time when we don't celebrate going to the playoffs or getting into the playoffs, but that's not going to be tonight.
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Sold.
 
Re: Detroit Lions 2011: If I slip and fall, I can Suh and get a Fairley large settle

The Lions are in the Playoffs!!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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