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Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

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Sloe Gin said:
Chambers doesn't cover anything! He beats on his chest about how great DU is and how bad everyone else is. That's not coverage. That's drivel. He should be forced to walk down Colfax with no pants on.
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10 bucks says a North Dakota methhead transplant would offer to blow him.

DU sweeps. North Dakota sucks
 
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dggoddard said:
I would say that this is the first time in recent years where DU has a talent advantage our the Sioux. Usually UND is the far superior team, and DU has to outwork, outhustle or out-think the Sioux to have any chance of winning.
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UND with Genoway is a different team. Puck moving defensemen are the difference-makers in this league and he's the best. I think UND would be top 3 in the WCHA with Genoway in the lineup.

Even as it is, I'd be thrilled if DU can get a split.
 
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dggoddard said:
Hint: "Fighting" Sioux. :D

Anyone who watches WCHA hockey notices that UND games just seem to always have an "edge" to them. When UND falls behind by a couple of goals you just know the rough stuff is coming. Its just the style of play of Hakstol's teams.
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Funny UND hasn't had a Fighting Major in 2 + years and DU was the one that started gooning up last season when the Sioux took it to DU 8-3 in the first game. I also saw some rough stuff between Wisconsin and DU last weekend and UND wasn't within 200 miles of Madison.
 
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lord k said:
If Davidson is in the lineup when they play st. cloud you know something will be going down.
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I would expect him to be in the line up one of the nights and in my opinion that guttless Bush League Hit has to be answered for because Marvin's hit has probably cost UND a higher finish and possibly a run deep into the playoffs because UND was a much different team with Chay in the line up.
 
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Goon said:
Funny UND hasn't had a Fighting Major in 2 + years and DU was the one that started gooning up last season when the Sioux took it to DU 8-3 in the first game. I also saw some rough stuff between Wisconsin and DU last weekend and UND wasn't within 200 miles of Madison.
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Weird. Seems they weren't in Denver for the DU-UAA series either. :confused: :confused:
 
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Goon said:
I would expect him to be in the line up one of the nights and in my opinion that guttless Bush League Hit has to be answered for because Marvin's hit has probably cost UND a higher finish and possibly a run deep into the playoffs because UND was a much different team with Chay in the line up.
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I hope that's not the case, for a variety of reasons.

First, injuring or even pounding Marvin doesn't bring Chay back any sooner.

Second, I have too much respect for the Marvin family and what they've done for UND hockey.

Third, there is no place for that in college hockey. I would never want another student-athlete hurt, or even beat on, for whatever he might have done. It has to be handled within the rules.
 
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Puck Swami said:
....Judgement is what refs get paid for - not just calling penalties.
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I get Sicatoka's point - it's how we all feel it should be. But you nailed it: reffing is about providing safety & establishing control. In any contact sport, there's probably a textbook penalty on every play. The ref mixes rulebook knowlege with personal judgement to varying degrees as the situation calls. It's his judgement that needs to be consistent, not necessarily his calls.

When I hear "Hope they let us play next period", I don't translate that as "Hope they let us break the rules". Instead, I hear "We're GONNA break the rules, like we always do. I hope they don't whistle us so much next period."
 
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SJHovey said:
I hope that's not the case, for a variety of reasons.

First, injuring or even pounding Marvin doesn't bring Chay back any sooner.

Second, I have too much respect for the Marvin family and what they've done for UND hockey.

Third, there is no place for that in college hockey. I would never want another student-athlete hurt, or even beat on, for whatever he might have done. It has to be handled within the rules.
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that a Sioux player hurt Marvin, however, he broke the code and that hit must be answered for... Marvin's hit was dispectful and should have been punished by the league more serverly than the joke of a one game suspension. What would happen if that happened int he NHL?
 
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Goon said:
I don't think anyone is suggesting that a Sioux player hurt Marvin, however, he broke the code and that hit must be answered for... Marvin's hit was dispectful and should have been punished by the league more serverly than the joke of a one game suspension. What would happen if that happened int he NHL?
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If the goal is not to hurt him, then how do you propose the Genoway hit be "answered for"? I can only assume a couple of different options. First, that he be checked hard, but clean, multiple times during the game. I have no problem with that.

Option 2, someone basically cheapshots him. Punches him, spears him, crumbles the cookies with a stick between the legs, etc... There's no place for that, and would furthermore hurt the Sioux by likely leading to one or more penalties against a pretty good pp, in games we will need to get some points from.

Option 3, someone offers to square off with Marvin in a fight. If he accepts, fine. If not, you're stuck with option 2 or nothing.

The NHL is different, and has different rules. They are also paid for their effort.
 
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I know the 'code' exists in pro hockey, but does it really exist in college hockey?
 
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TV and webcast reminders for this series.

These games are going to be viewable on both TV and the web. FSSN (Fighting Sioux Sport Network) will be originating the broadcasts which are being picked up by multiple broadcasters.

Friday Night - 7:30 PM CT
TV
FSSN
FCS Central
NHL Network

Webcast - pay
Pioneer Vision at www.denverpioneers.com

Saturday Night - 7:00 PM CT
TV
FSSN
FCS Atlantic

Webcast - pay
Pioneer Vision at www.denverpioneers.com
 
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dggoddard said:
Hint: "Fighting" Sioux. :D

Anyone who watches WCHA hockey notices that UND games just seem to always have an "edge" to them. When UND falls behind by a couple of goals you just know the rough stuff is coming. Its just the style of play of Hakstol's teams.
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That's not exclusive to UND... THAT'S EVERY TEAM IN THE F-ING LEAGUE. (and yes, I felt the need to yell). You see that everywhere. It's a common trait of hockey games.
 
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sfo19 said:
That's not exclusive to UND... THAT'S EVERY TEAM IN THE F-ING LEAGUE. (and yes, I felt the need to yell). You see that everywhere. It's a common trait of hockey games.
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If I remember right from last season Denver got ******y after the Sioux handed it to them.
 
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Puck Swami said:
I know the 'code' exists in pro hockey, but does it really exist in college hockey?
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Really how do you think DU would respond if a player took out Rhett Rakhshani, Tyler Ruegsegger or Marc Cheverie with a bush league check or hit? I would be willing to bet that the hit would be answer for. That's what we are talking about here. The code exist in college, juniors and in the Professional leagues.
 
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Puck Swami said:
I know the 'code' exists in pro hockey, but does it really exist in college hockey?
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It does exist in college hockey. Personally I don't have a problem with it. I don't want to see someone try to spear marvin or hit him cheaply but if someone wants to square off with him that would be great, as long as Marvin is willing. Most players understand that if they lay a cheap hit on someone they will probably have to fight and they accept it as part of playing hockey. The only real problem I have with it is I feel these things should be taken care of during the game the infraction happened.

You have to stick up for yourself and your team otherwise all the other teams will just smell weakness and they will come at you even harder. It may sound almost childish but it is 100% true.
 
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lord k said:
It does exist in college hockey. Personally I don't have a problem with it. I don't want to see someone try to spear marvin or hit him cheaply but if someone wants to square off with him that would be great, as long as Marvin is willing. Most players understand that if they lay a cheap hit on someone they will probably have to fight and they accept it as part of playing hockey. The only real problem I have with it is I feel these things should be taken care of during the game the infraction happened.

You have to stick up for yourself and your team otherwise all the other teams will just smell weakness and they will come at you even harder. It may sound almost childish but it is 100% true.
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Marvin has been around the game long enough to know that he is going to be a marked man when the Sioux play the Huskies. Instread of letting it feaster it is better off it get it out of the way that weekend and be done with it.
 
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