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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
OK, Chicken Little.
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Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
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trixR4kids
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Lost what? They're currently tied in delegates and still counting the votes (in which Bernie is leading). If he wins more delegates based on some coin flips in a caucus so be it.
Lost what? They're currently tied in delegates and still counting the votes (in which Bernie is leading). If he wins more delegates based on some coin flips in a caucus so be it.
Kepler
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Nobody said this. You're listening to your wish fulfillment bear again.
The Plan (tm) is for the loser between Sanders and Warren to endorse the winner. Once it becomes clear who's who that (hopefully) will happen.
Nobody said this. You're listening to your wish fulfillment bear again.
The Plan (tm) is for the loser between Sanders and Warren to endorse the winner. Once it becomes clear who's who that (hopefully) will happen.
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
So the Revolution is unstoppable unless it ends up getting foiled by a couple of coin flips? Yikes. I thought Buttigieg was some sort of Conservadem? How is he even in the same area code as Sanders, let alone leading him?
trix, meet Kepler. Kepler, meet trix.
So the Revolution is unstoppable unless it ends up getting foiled by a couple of coin flips? Yikes. I thought Buttigieg was some sort of Conservadem? How is he even in the same area code as Sanders, let alone leading him?
trix, meet Kepler. Kepler, meet trix.
Kepler
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
The more shade is thrown at Sanders and Warren the more you know they are genuinely worrying the Third Wayers. Now, why this would be is anybody's guess. It's almost as if they are starting to realize the gravy train may be derailing.
The only real story from IA is Biden fell on his face despite all the advantages. Like Hillary 08 and Jeb! there's a distinct scent of flop sweat coming from that campaign. Now we'll see whether over the next few primaries he can crawl his way back into it. If he stalls down there at 4th, worse yet below Pete, he's moribund.
The more shade is thrown at Sanders and Warren the more you know they are genuinely worrying the Third Wayers. Now, why this would be is anybody's guess. It's almost as if they are starting to realize the gravy train may be derailing.
The only real story from IA is Biden fell on his face despite all the advantages. Like Hillary 08 and Jeb! there's a distinct scent of flop sweat coming from that campaign. Now we'll see whether over the next few primaries he can crawl his way back into it. If he stalls down there at 4th, worse yet below Pete, he's moribund.
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trixR4kids
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Rover is so bad at trolling lmfao. Your preferred candidate lost to a clown fascist and the establishment dems that you constantly suck off can't even count votes properly while the candidate you despise actually did with their own app.
Rover is so bad at trolling lmfao. Your preferred candidate lost to a clown fascist and the establishment dems that you constantly suck off can't even count votes properly while the candidate you despise actually did with their own app.
Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Given your anger it looks like its having an effect! However my point stands. IF Sanders is leading a revolution of new voters taking over the system, is it too much to ask for them to start banking some victories?
Given your anger it looks like its having an effect! However my point stands. IF Sanders is leading a revolution of new voters taking over the system, is it too much to ask for them to start banking some victories?
unofan
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Bless your heart. Now hush, the grown ups are talking.
trixR4kids
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
What, you and Rover!? lololololololol
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Something he doesnt want to admit
(to be fair though Amy has an advantage there she wont have anywhere else)
Mayor Pete doing well at all proves Kepler wrong on quite a few things. For that reason alone I want him to keep this up
(I also genuinely like him though he is probably #3 on my list of people I hope win)
Something he doesnt want to admit
(to be fair though Amy has an advantage there she wont have anywhere else)
Mayor Pete doing well at all proves Kepler wrong on quite a few things. For that reason alone I want him to keep this up
(I also genuinely like him though he is probably #3 on my list of people I hope win)
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
It is not often I compliment someone defending Iowa...but **** that was a TKO!
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It is not often I compliment someone defending Iowa...but **** that was a TKO!
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Kepler
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Can you elaborate?
Can you elaborate?
Handyman
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Dude, you are kidding right? I mean...you cant be serious? I know you have a blindspot but this would be laughably out of touch with reality even for you. Maybe go back to earlier versions of this thread and read the stuff trix was posting. He didnt pull that stuff out of thin air...
Dude, you are kidding right? I mean...you cant be serious? I know you have a blindspot but this would be laughably out of touch with reality even for you. Maybe go back to earlier versions of this thread and read the stuff trix was posting. He didnt pull that stuff out of thin air...
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
He proved he should sit at the same table with the, "lolololololol".
He proved he should sit at the same table with the, "lolololololol".
Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
He did. Apparently she represented some corporate clients 30 years ago.
But, did anybody tell trix that we were using "lol" and "rotflmao" before he was even born? You might think he invented those or something.
He did. Apparently she represented some corporate clients 30 years ago.
But, did anybody tell trix that we were using "lol" and "rotflmao" before he was even born?
You might think he invented those or something.Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
are you 12 years old?
trixR4kids
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
You've literally contributed nothing to any of these threads other than attacking me so kindly **** off.
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Sure
These are just based on arguments me and you have had...there could be more
1) Mayor Pete shows the center is stronger than you ever give it credit for. A few weeks ago we had a discussion about this and you tried to infer that right now the Far Left and Far Right are where the power is or is headed. (I will concede the Far Right obviously) If the Far Left is as powerful as you want to pretend it is, Mayor Pete would be screwed. If his base is strong...the Far Left is in some trouble.
2) The Democrats need diversity on the ticket. I guess technically the entire dais of Democrats proves that wrong...but Mayor Pete showing strong numbers makes him as good of a choice for Veep as any of the names you trot out in your (its not racist cause I am a Liberal) schtick. Veep Pete locks up the nom for anyone not named Biden.
3) The Midwest matters. This really chaps your *** Right now it seems a significant portion want someone who isnt frothing at the mouth over every issue or every tweet.
4) There are undecideds. The votes that came out for Pete are not all guaranteed to vote Biden or Bernie or Warren, hell they might not like a lot of them. They might also not much care for Trump. Pete is the guy that 10-15% can get behind because he isnt ridiculously crazy Left and his isnt a Nazi. He is just your average White Politician many of us grew up seeing in every election. He doesnt want Forever Wars, he doesnt want to give everything away for free, he doesnt want to restrict voting or Rights for people, and he doesnt want to get bogged down in a ****ing contest over the bonafides for everyone on every single issue. He is Milquetoast, he is the antithesis of everything that the last 4 years for both parties have been about. In most elections he would be looking for a soft landing spot already but right now he speaks to a percentage of the electorate that is sort of done with all of this. No more telling us why SOCIALISM!!1! is bad, or why a candidate sucks because she has friends on Wall Street...just your average guy who served in the military, got a very good education and can talk to people without getting in their face. People right now seem to miss that.
Look I dont think it lasts...I think South Carolina will be the beginning of the end for him. (unless the major players split all 4 of the early results in which case...GAME ON GRAB THE POPCORN SUPER TUESDAY JUST GOT FUN!) But I think Pete shows that while the majority are tribal, in truth there is a group of voters that are being sidelined with the shifting of the focus of the Parties to the fringes. (something I myself have little issue with) Now the True Believers will tell you they dont exist which is why you seem to discount them all the time but they are there and they are the difference. These arent the people you "drag along with you" they are the people you welcome with open arms and let them get to where you are on a track that is comfortable to them.
BTW I am using you for this because we discuss this here. You are a stand in for a lot of people on the Left who seem to forget you can be a Democrat and not think everything we want needs to happen on Day 1. it is ok for incremental change. (which I know you know you have argued it before) Right now it seems a large vocal segment of the Dems forget that. The Dems lost a lot of that area in the last decade and it can be won back. Those people I believe make up a lot of the Pete fans and they are showing you the road map to get them back.
Sure
These are just based on arguments me and you have had...there could be more 1) Mayor Pete shows the center is stronger than you ever give it credit for. A few weeks ago we had a discussion about this and you tried to infer that right now the Far Left and Far Right are where the power is or is headed. (I will concede the Far Right obviously) If the Far Left is as powerful as you want to pretend it is, Mayor Pete would be screwed. If his base is strong...the Far Left is in some trouble.
2) The Democrats need diversity on the ticket. I guess technically the entire dais of Democrats proves that wrong...but Mayor Pete showing strong numbers makes him as good of a choice for Veep as any of the names you trot out in your (its not racist cause I am a Liberal) schtick. Veep Pete locks up the nom for anyone not named Biden.
3) The Midwest matters. This really chaps your ***
Right now it seems a significant portion want someone who isnt frothing at the mouth over every issue or every tweet.4) There are undecideds. The votes that came out for Pete are not all guaranteed to vote Biden or Bernie or Warren, hell they might not like a lot of them. They might also not much care for Trump. Pete is the guy that 10-15% can get behind because he isnt ridiculously crazy Left and his isnt a Nazi. He is just your average White Politician many of us grew up seeing in every election. He doesnt want Forever Wars, he doesnt want to give everything away for free, he doesnt want to restrict voting or Rights for people, and he doesnt want to get bogged down in a ****ing contest over the bonafides for everyone on every single issue. He is Milquetoast, he is the antithesis of everything that the last 4 years for both parties have been about. In most elections he would be looking for a soft landing spot already but right now he speaks to a percentage of the electorate that is sort of done with all of this. No more telling us why SOCIALISM!!1! is bad, or why a candidate sucks because she has friends on Wall Street...just your average guy who served in the military, got a very good education and can talk to people without getting in their face. People right now seem to miss that.
Look I dont think it lasts...I think South Carolina will be the beginning of the end for him. (unless the major players split all 4 of the early results in which case...GAME ON GRAB THE POPCORN SUPER TUESDAY JUST GOT FUN!) But I think Pete shows that while the majority are tribal, in truth there is a group of voters that are being sidelined with the shifting of the focus of the Parties to the fringes. (something I myself have little issue with) Now the True Believers will tell you they dont exist which is why you seem to discount them all the time but they are there and they are the difference. These arent the people you "drag along with you" they are the people you welcome with open arms and let them get to where you are on a track that is comfortable to them.
BTW I am using you for this because we discuss this here. You are a stand in for a lot of people on the Left who seem to forget you can be a Democrat and not think everything we want needs to happen on Day 1. it is ok for incremental change. (which I know you know you have argued it before) Right now it seems a large vocal segment of the Dems forget that. The Dems lost a lot of that area in the last decade and it can be won back. Those people I believe make up a lot of the Pete fans and they are showing you the road map to get them back.
trixR4kids
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
Not going to pretend I remember what Kep argued about Mayor Pete but I'm guessing his prediction was based on what would happen nationally rather than in Iowa.
Not going to pretend I remember what Kep argued about Mayor Pete but I'm guessing his prediction was based on what would happen nationally rather than in Iowa.
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Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.
I believe he intimated she was a Centrist who was "Wall Street Friendly". He absolutely questioned whether she was a Progressive or not. I bet if you ask him right now he will again though her numbers are going down so he probably doesnt have the zeal for her he once did. If she polls well before NH or Nevada though you will see it.
Since I have no issue with either candidate I just dont get it but whatever I am just a Conservadem anyways 
I believe he intimated she was a Centrist who was "Wall Street Friendly". He absolutely questioned whether she was a Progressive or not. I bet if you ask him right now he will again though her numbers are going down so he probably doesnt have the zeal for her he once did. If she polls well before NH or Nevada though you will see it.
Since I have no issue with either candidate I just dont get it but whatever I am just a Conservadem anyways
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