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Is this really what they call it?

I always think of the golden age of boxing as Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Sugar Ray Robinson, when it had a significant following.

WhY - because people told you it was? Yes I've heard the same but sorry for me it's impossible to compare to the overall talent, depth and rivalries of the 80's and 90's.
 
Is this really what they call it?

I always think of the golden age of boxing as Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Sugar Ray Robinson, when it had a significant following.

The late 60s through the 70s would have to be considered. The '76 Olympic boxing was fantastic stuff.
 
WhY - because people told you it was? Yes I've heard the same but sorry for me it's impossible to compare to the overall talent, depth and rivalries of the 80's and 90's.

No, because if you watch old movies there's always a boxing scene, regardless of class, and now it's a fringe sport like wrestling.

Boxing is like the horses. It's vestigial.

As far as comparing ages, you basically just said Ruth and Gehrig sucked because you never saw them. That is silliness.

Serious question: why was there never a color line in boxing?
 
No, because if you watch old movies there's always a boxing scene, regardless of class, and now it's a fringe sport like wrestling.

Boxing is like the horses. It's vestigial.

As far as comparing ages, you basically just said Ruth and Gehrig sucked because you never saw them. That is silliness.

Serious question: why was there never a color line in boxing?

Well...there was a color line in boxing. It just broke a generation or two before the other major sports. I am trying to remember the name of the PBS documentary, but it followed Jack Johnson, and then also discussed about how when Johnson finally, somewhat, broke the color line, he actually refused to fight black boxers. Very interesting.
 
As far as comparing ages, you basically just said Ruth and Gehrig sucked because you never saw them.

Well I would consider Ruth and Gehrig at the top so no this argument doesn't apply to my opinion. I'm going off of what I've seen and read, and for my bang for the buck previous eras don't offer the overall depth of the time I'm placing at the top. What's your argument other than "black and white is better"?
 
Well I would consider Ruth and Gehrig at the top so no this argument doesn't apply to my opinion. I'm going off of what I've seen and read, and for my bang for the buck previous eras don't offer the overall depth of the time I'm placing at the top. What's your argument other than "black and white is better"?

I've already given you my argument twice. I can't help you if you can't get it.
 
Well...there was a color line in boxing. It just broke a generation or two before the other major sports. I am trying to remember the name of the PBS documentary, but it followed Jack Johnson, and then also discussed about how when Johnson finally, somewhat, broke the color line, he actually refused to fight black boxers. Very interesting.

That's interesting. Because Johnson became a prominent boxer during, IIRC, WW1, I assumed it was that pro boxing was always integrated. I figured it was that "gentlemen's fisticuffs" of the sort that Harvard dweebs did, which replaced dueling, was always restricted, but earning money doing it was so gauche even blacks were allowed. i.e., a class marker, like how working class Irish dominated baseball in the 1850s and 1860s when they formed steel company factory teams as mercenaries, whereas the Brit sh-ts from the 1840's were still saying "ra-thuh" and not playing for money.

Same thing happened with early pro hockey mining and textile mill teams vs all those "A. A." Cup Champions from Toronto.

c.f., Ivy jock scholarship ban. A guild drawbridge.
 
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But the pension fund was just sitting there!!!

I bought every one of these with my first paychecks.

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Brotha from another mother

There are a trillion little phrases from those wired into my brain, and recognition was immediate. We are, indeed, twins.

Looking at that pic it's ironic how exactly the two rows exactly delimit the moment Trudeau jumped the shark. Everything above was brilliant and seditious; everything below was banal and tedious.

I would say Amy's ancestor's apprenticeship under Paul Revere was the exact comic when Doonesbury went from to hip young sedition to unhip old cringe.
 
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But then Berke Breathed came along.

And then Matt Groening.

And then Tom Tomorrow.



And before Trudeau there was Jules Feiffer. Before him Al Jaffee. Before him Herb Block. Before him Rollin Kirby. Before him Thomas Nast.
 
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I've already given you my argument twice. I can't help you if you can't get it.

There he is! I think you mentioned one time, "significant following" but I was going off the overall talent pool and boxing in the 70's and 80's did have a tremendous following. To be clear 'golden age' is used to describe boxing in the 20's, I borrowed and reapplied it.
 
There he is! I think you mentioned one time, "significant following" but I was going off the overall talent pool and boxing in the 70's and 80's did have a tremendous following. To be clear 'golden age' is used to describe boxing in the 20's, I borrowed and reapplied it.

Are you still carrying this?
 
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