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D3 Rosters

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shelfit said:
The strategy is to get as many of the best players possible to go there which means other schools won't have those players on their rosters. He's not the only D3 coach recruiting that way. Teams with such high turnover in any 4 year cycle should be a red flag to parents of potential recruits. Gustavus coach does the same thing turning over most of his roster every 2 years. Both teams are "successful" but is that the most ethical method for D3 hockey?!
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To commit to one of these schools is still a personal choice for the player and her family. If they don’t go in with their eyes wide open, they have not done their homework. Every player should ask herself if she will be happy being a second, third, or fourth-line player (or warming the bench) on one of these top teams, or if it is more important to be on a team where she will be a starter, play regular shifts, and get time on power plays and penalty kills. I can’t imagine it would be much fun being on the top team if you are not contributing to its success. It’s the same with D1 – it would be hard to tell people you play on a D1 team when you hardly see the ice.
 
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I find it funny (interesting) to see so many D3 rosters with 25+ players and then so many D1 rosters at about 22 players. I understand the reasons for the differences but if I'm a D3 player I want to play on a D3 team with about 22 or fewer players. Only 21 are allowed to play and no matter if it's D1 or D3 I'd much rather be on a team with a shorter roster and play than be on a team with a larger roster and possibly be a healthy scratch from time to time. I've seen it happen more often than I would have expected where a player goes to a D1 team or a high end D3 team but barely plays and yet has the nerve to boast about where she played. Guys too.
 
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shelfit said:
I find it funny (interesting) to see so many D3 rosters with 25+ players and then so many D1 rosters at about 22 players. I understand the reasons for the differences but if I'm a D3 player I want to play on a D3 team with about 22 or fewer players. Only 21 are allowed to play and no matter if it's D1 or D3 I'd much rather be on a team with a shorter roster and play than be on a team with a larger roster and possibly be a healthy scratch from time to time. I've seen it happen more often than I would have expected where a player goes to a D1 team or a high end D3 team but barely plays and yet has the nerve to boast about where she played. Guys too.
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It's called competition within the team. Makes everyone better. With Concordia/Moorhead where my daughter plays they have 24 on the roster. Good thing since 2 are out until after xmas and 2 are still playing soccer for another 2 weeks. The 3rd goalie is a practice goalie and the 4th line will see very little action once the 2 soccer players come back. Every team has different situations and you plan accordingly.
 
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If I were a coach I'd roster an absolute minimum of 24-25. With three goaltenders, you're at 21-22 skaters. Anything less than that and you're in trouble from a depth standpoint, and with no injuries, you should be getting healthy competition for ice time on your 3rd and 4th lines and the back half of your defensive pairings.

On the other side, I wouldn't carry more than about 27. Much more than that and you're wasting girls' time. You don't need to be scratching 10 girls every game night.
 
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shelfit said:
I find it funny (interesting) to see so many D3 rosters with 25+ players and then so many D1 rosters at about 22 players. I understand the reasons for the differences but if I'm a D3 player I want to play on a D3 team with about 22 or fewer players. Only 21 are allowed to play and no matter if it's D1 or D3 I'd much rather be on a team with a shorter roster and play than be on a team with a larger roster and possibly be a healthy scratch from time to time. I've seen it happen more often than I would have expected where a player goes to a D1 team or a high end D3 team but barely plays and yet has the nerve to boast about where she played. Guys too.
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Don't forget that D1 having lower numbers is probably more closely tied to the number of athletic scholarships available. If I'm looking at being player #20-#25 on a D1 team, why not go be a stud at D3 and get playing time, especially if you're not getting scholarship money.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Don't forget that D1 having lower numbers is probably more closely tied to the number of athletic scholarships available. If I'm looking at being player #20-#25 on a D1 team, why not go be a stud at D3 and get playing time, especially if you're not getting scholarship money.
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That's with the assumption that every 20th-25th player on a D-I team would be a stud on any D-III team, which likely is not accurate.

A 20th-25th on a D-I who would be a stud on a D-III likely is playing for a D-I powerhouse. The others probably just fit in at high-level D-III schools, unless you're going to go from mid-level D-I to bottom-tier D-III because you're the 20th-25th player.
 
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nyi19 said:
That's with the assumption that every 20th-25th player on a D-I team would be a stud on any D-III team, which likely is not accurate.

A 20th-25th on a D-I who would be a stud on a D-III likely is playing for a D-I powerhouse. The others probably just fit in at high-level D-III schools, unless you're going to go from mid-level D-I to bottom-tier D-III because you're the 20th-25th player.
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Well Buff State currently has a d1 transfer (I don't know of any other d1-d3 transfers) so I guess we will see how well a d1 transfer does on a low-end team.
 
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alternatecaptain said:
Well Buff State currently has a d1 transfer (I don't know of any other d1-d3 transfers) so I guess we will see how well a d1 transfer does on a low-end team.
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Buffalo State has had a D1 transfer for 3 seasons - Goodwin from Lindenwood. She has been 1 of their top 3 scorers the last 2 seasons and leads the team after 2 games this year.

Generally, bottom 5 players at any D1 school are top 6 F or top 4 D at any D3 school (not counting Sacred Heart and Holy Cross). That holds true even for really weak teams like Union, Brown, etc. In fact, those bottom 5 D1 players and the top 3 F and top 2 D at any decent D3 school are pretty much interchangeable. Comes down to fit at a D1 school, players and coach making a connection, and the player's willingness to be a marginal contributor at the D1 level as to whether these players end up on D1 or D3 teams. The D3 coaches are generally waiting for the mid/late D1 candidate dropouts because these are the kids that will make their team competitive.
 
nyi19 said:
That's with the assumption that every 20th-25th player on a D-I team would be a stud on any D-III team, which likely is not accurate.

A 20th-25th on a D-I who would be a stud on a D-III likely is playing for a D-I powerhouse. The others probably just fit in at high-level D-III schools, unless you're going to go from mid-level D-I to bottom-tier D-III because you're the 20th-25th player.
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Kistner, Aveson and Vakos worked out pretty well for Plattsburgh.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Kistner, Aveson and Vakos worked out pretty well for Plattsburgh.
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Personally, I think picking up a so called D1 player is a crapshoot. Sure Houle, Bolding and other top D3 programs will be gunning for them but there are a lot of moving parts that need to fit too. I do recall a couple that worked out for Norwich though, that "old" #9 and #6, Ms Lynn, who came to us from St Lawrence, and who was a big part of that NCAA win back in '11.:)
 
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shelfit said:
I find it funny (interesting) to see so many D3 rosters with 25+ players and then so many D1 rosters at about 22 players. I understand the reasons for the differences but if I'm a D3 player I want to play on a D3 team with about 22 or fewer players. Only 21 are allowed to play and no matter if it's D1 or D3 I'd much rather be on a team with a shorter roster and play than be on a team with a larger roster and possibly be a healthy scratch from time to time. I've seen it happen more often than I would have expected where a player goes to a D1 team or a high end D3 team but barely plays and yet has the nerve to boast about where she played. Guys too.
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Ya your right the nerve of those kids that barely got off the bench from Clarkson and Plattsburg boasting about being a part of those teams. Big deal that they ground it in practice every day and went to class. They had nothing to do with those championships. They shouldn't even be aloud to get a ring or hold the trophy. If your writing things like this you've either lost sight or you don't understand what it meen's to be apart of a team, whether it's Nichols College or Boston College. Do the times together in class, the lockeroom, the bus or on the ice meen nothing unless you make the game sheet. I never played a college sport and I certainly wouldn't take away from those who have.
 
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Tjames said:
Ya your right the nerve of those kids that barely got off the bench from Clarkson and Plattsburg boasting about being a part of those teams. Big deal that they ground it in practice every day and went to class. They had nothing to do with those championships. They shouldn't even be aloud to get a ring or hold the trophy. If your writing things like this you've either lost sight or you don't understand what it meen's to be apart of a team, whether it's Nichols College or Boston College. Do the times together in class, the lockeroom, the bus or on the ice meen nothing unless you make the game sheet. I never played a college sport and I certainly wouldn't take away from those who have.
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THIS! If you are on a team, you have a role, whatever that may be, and you play that role better than the people who didn't make the team. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with taking pride in your school, your team, and the fact that you played a part in it's success, whether it be on the ice, the bench, the locker room, or the class room. It would be so much more wrong to not be proud of that.


The weakest player on a D1 team is still probably stronger than 80% of those that didn't have a college hockey experience, including the poster you responded to.
 
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Tjames said:
Ya your right the nerve of those kids that barely got off the bench from Clarkson and Plattsburg boasting about being a part of those teams. Big deal that they ground it in practice every day and went to class. They had nothing to do with those championships. They shouldn't even be aloud to get a ring or hold the trophy. If your writing things like this you've either lost sight or you don't understand what it meen's to be apart of a team, whether it's Nichols College or Boston College. Do the times together in class, the lockeroom, the bus or on the ice meen nothing unless you make the game sheet. I never played a college sport and I certainly wouldn't take away from those who have.
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ooofaaa. what school am that?
 
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