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Heard that Plattsburgh is getting an All-American (transfer Megan Crandell from SNC). If so, would she be eligible to play next term?

I'm pretty sure she'll be eligible. I remember on the Men's side when three Plattsburgh players transferred to Curry during winter break, and ended up in the visitor's locker room at Stafford for their first game for Curry.

Do you have any further details on the transfer? Do you know if anyone is leaving Plattsburgh?
 
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You may transfer between D-3 schools and play without sitting out.

And if I'm reading collegehockeystats correctly, she hasn't played this year, nor is she even on SNC's roster.
 
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As long as she's academically eligible, she can play. One day of practice with any team is a year of eligibility. Unless of course you get a medical clearance.
 
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According to the game wrap-up on the Plattsburgh Athletics site, the ladies' comeback win over GA marked a program-best 20 straight wins.
 
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Depth is more a function of how strong your weaker teams are and less a function of how many of your teams are in the top 10. The NESCAC sample size this season so far is really too small to draw any highly meaningful conclusions about their strength of teams other than Middlebury (except maybe for Wesleyan).

A different question is why are UWS and UWSP still getting votes for top 10 with multiple losses, ties, and overtime wins, some to slop teams. Not seeing it.
 
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A different question is why are UWS and UWSP still getting votes for top 10 with multiple losses, ties, and overtime wins, some to slop teams. Not seeing it.

Its funny that you're whining that someone put Superior in as their 10th place team.

I'm guessing it was a western coach, probably put Stevens Point at 9, Superior at 10.

Stevens Point played tough out east, those weren't easy wins for Platts/Middlebury. Same with Gustavus...I'd wager Gustavus wins that game if they don't lose their teammate to a spinal cord injury and have a half hour delay in the 3rd period. I'm sure that rattled their concentration. Granted, Plattsburgh just took it too em after that.

I wouldn't call Eau Claire "slop" Are they the best out there, no. Will they be in every game they play...yes. They aren't going to get beat 9-0, 5-0, like the fodder you have out east.
 
I wouldn't call Eau Claire "slop" Are they the best out there, no. Will they be in every game they play...yes. They aren't going to get beat 9-0, 5-0, like the fodder you have out east.

I think most people would call them slop considering their very unimpressive history. Granted there's a new coach this year so maybe a new team culture too which would be great for them. They've needed something new for a long time. I guess time will tell if they're going to lose by those big scores or not. We'll have to just wait and see.
 
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I think it would be nice if we started showing a little bit of class and stop calling these young ladies that have been working their asses off for years to play hockey at a Collegiate level "slop". They could certainly wipe the floor with any of us sitting behind our keyboards writing about them. Some teams are better than others, sure, but how about a little class in the discussion? The women deserve better.
 
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I think it would be nice if we started showing a little bit of class and stop calling these young ladies that have been working their asses off for years to play hockey at a Collegiate level "slop". They could certainly wipe the floor with any of us sitting behind our keyboards writing about them. Some teams are better than others, sure, but how about a little class in the discussion? The women deserve better.

I second this.
 
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I think it would be nice if we started showing a little bit of class and stop calling these young ladies that have been working their asses off for years to play hockey at a Collegiate level "slop". They could certainly wipe the floor with any of us sitting behind our keyboards writing about them. Some teams are better than others, sure, but how about a little class in the discussion? The women deserve better.

smile mom, "slop" is a reference to the team, not the individual.:(
 
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Oh i forgot...we have to be all touchy feely cuz they are girls.

Can I refer to them as Bantha Fodder :)
 
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Oh i forgot...we have to be all touchy feely cuz they are girls.

Can I refer to them as Bantha Fodder :)

Love the Star Wars reference here... My comment about the "young ladies" was less about the ladies part and more about the athletes being young. Anyone who knows me knows I am very far from PC and all the "safe zone" crap infecting college campuses across the country, but I just thought the term "slop" was a little over the top. The debate on this board is usually a little more intelligent than this.
 
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Oh i forgot...we have to be all touchy feely cuz they are girls.

Can I refer to them as Bantha Fodder :)

That's not true either. No one is saying you have to love them or root for them. But in the years I've been reading these forums (granted I'm relatively newer than a lot of regular posters) I can't recall any threads on the Men's board talk about the perennial last place finishers in the way people on this thread have been picking apart some of these Women's programs. Granted there aren't as many Men's programs stuck in a quagmire on the men's side and there isn't an entire conference of said programs in line to take an auto-bid from the pool of Tournament berths so maybe it just hasn't come up.

The lack of parity is problematic for the NCAA DIII Women's league, but constantly referring to these programs as slop is disrespectful to the work the players on the ice for them now are putting in, especially when the biggest problem I've seen is many of these teams don't have enough players to even field full lineups so expecting them to compete with the likes of Elmira, Norwich, GA, Middlebury, Plattsburgh, who field full teams of the best league has is a huge stretch for them.
 
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I know guys, that's why I've always put "slop" in quotes. I didn't really agree with the term and disagree with the majority of the teams that Shelfit listed as "slop."

I do think it is much more difficult for women's teams to reverse their fortunes than it is for the men's teams. Plattsburgh will always be good. Gustavus will always be good. River Falls is consistently good. You have the teams that rise up from time to time, Elmira (nowadays), Middlebury, Norwich, St Thomas, Superior, Stevens Point, Lake Forest, Concordia...etc. Then you have the low-mid tier teams that are competitive with eachother but not the top teams. Then the "others". I don't think Finlandia or Chatham has any chance of moving out of the bottom any time soon.

I think I talked about it a few years ago, but the case of Finlandia is pretty interesting. They were never a winning team, but they were at least competitive and won games the first few years of their existence and just have bottomed out. You would think they would have a good draw being the only team in the UP, but apparently not.
 
That's not true either. No one is saying you have to love them or root for them. But in the years I've been reading these forums (granted I'm relatively newer than a lot of regular posters) I can't recall any threads on the Men's board talk about the perennial last place finishers in the way people on this thread have been picking apart some of these Women's programs. Granted there aren't as many Men's programs stuck in a quagmire on the men's side and there isn't an entire conference of said programs in line to take an auto-bid from the pool of Tournament berths so maybe it just hasn't come up.

The lack of parity is problematic for the NCAA DIII Women's league, but constantly referring to these programs as slop is disrespectful to the work the players on the ice for them now are putting in, especially when the biggest problem I've seen is many of these teams don't have enough players to even field full lineups so expecting them to compete with the likes of Elmira, Norwich, GA, Middlebury, Plattsburgh, who field full teams of the best league has is a huge stretch for them.

Go back a few years when the ECACNE got their conference started. Same thing and it was UGLY. For a while the ECACNE team was considered a first round bye for the #1 overall seed. But for its worth, one of the mid pack ECACNE teams just beat last years mighty NESCAC and DIII National Champion Trinity at #1 ranked Trinity....and it wasn't one of those "luck" games. Point is, the "wasted" bid conference teams can grow to become respectful IF the school chooses to put the support in the program. As women's hockey grows, more teams will become competitive.
 
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