COVID-19 - Part 2

[e.cat]

Read what happened in Boston at the Biogen Conference.
After Spreading Coronavirus, Boston Biogen Meeting Serves as Stark Warning
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/boston-biogen-meeting-coronavirus-warning/2089438/

Hundreds of attendees were immediately tested and many became seriously ill immediately at and after the conference. It also helped to spread the virus.
"An additional 12 people who have tested positive for the virus outside Massachusetts have been linked to the Feb. 26-27 meeting, including five in North Carolina, two in Indiana, and one each in New Jersey, Tennessee, and Washington, D.C., officials said. Two tested positive in Europe, Biogen spokesman David Caouette said Wednesday."

"The Biogen cluster underscores the danger in continuing to host business gatherings as the virus, which has sickened tens of thousands of people since emerging in China in December, spreads, said Marc Lipsitch, a Harvard University infectious disease epidemiologist."

By March 3

State health officials say the company notified them of the potential outbreak March 3 and that by March 6 they had publicly confirmed the cases as the type of coronavirus that causes the disease COVID-19.

At this point, they were testing hundreds of employees and ultimately shut down the whole company of 7,000.

de Blasio and his health commissioner continued to downplay the threat after March 6. There was little in the local NYC news coverage in NYC from February 26-29 about the Wuhan virus. Penn Station was packed with commuters coughing and sneezing on each other on the 26th and the 29th. The broadway play "Hamilton" on the 29th was a complete sellout and 1200 people were packed like sardines coughing on each other. 8th avenue (old garment district) was packed with construction traffic. The Museum of Art was packed with students on the 29th with busses from the suburbs of NYC and they were coughing.

Meanwhile, the alarm had sounded in Boston and its health care systems were mobilizing.

New York City is a mess, and they own it. They took too long to respond.

Your two posts tell the tale Dutchman. de Blasio should be run outta town on a rail!

 

[NCAA watcher]

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Your two posts tell the tale Dutchman. de Blasio should be run outta town on a rail!

He has been long before this. New Yorkers hate him more than they hate Trump.

Mayor Bill de Blasio ended his presidential campaign in September, returning to New York City to find that little had changed: He was still unloved, and, in his mind, unappreciated.

His approval rating had sunk to a new low of 33 percent. His relationship with Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a fellow Democrat and frequent adversary, was beyond repair.

His thinning influence over the City Council had eroded even further; when the mayor pushed one of his top priorities from last year — a paid vacation proposal for private-sector workers — the Council ignored it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bob Kraft’s plane going to visit Asians again. I’m just ready for this pandemic to have a happy ending. <a href="https://t.co/HP6atm2OjI">https://t.co/HP6atm2OjI</a></p>— Captain Tom Sparrow (@cdown30) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdown30/status/1245674557110968321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Wayuphere]

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Trumpettes are now, as predicted by many, making the transition from “nothing to see here”, “no big deal”, “my rights are being taken away”, he’s so presidential “, etc., to now it’s:
“Not his fault”. The most outrageous case of the buck NOT stopping here in this countries history. Meanwhile, the Trump virus marches on.

So predictable coming from their world of black is white, up is down.

 

[e.cat]

He has been long before this. New Yorkers hate him more than they hate Trump.




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bob Kraft’s plane going to visit Asians again. I’m just ready for this pandemic to have a happy ending. <a href="https://t.co/HP6atm2OjI">https://t.co/HP6atm2OjI</a></p>— Captain Tom Sparrow (@cdown30) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdown30/status/1245674557110968321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good of Kraft to do that.

 

[Darius]

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My apologies - in reading it back, I should have worded it more carefully. It was a collective "you", not meant to be a Darius-specific "you". Just a reference to the entertaining but now abandoned line of thought which had Drs. Fauci and Birx disagreeing with President Trump, and their infrequent absences then attributed to the President supposedly "silencing" their dissent. From my subsequent posts, I think we aren't far off in how we saw today's briefing - other than I disagree about the "distraction" bit. My apologies though for the clumsy "you" thingie though, sincerely.

Not abandoned, moved on. My take, obviously speculation, it was the President disagreeing with the docs not the other way around and the day you refer to, Dr. Fauci legitimately had a better use of his time than being a 90 minute stage prop OR he suggested to the President that it might be better if he were not on stage that day. Clearly it is the President's understanding that has evolved not the doctors'.

 

[Chuck Murray]

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So predictable coming from their world of black is white, up is down.

Remind us again then, how many genders are there in your world? It's A-OK when the "girl" with the beard wins the State 100M sprint championship? And how your science <s>excuses</s> explains how the same "clump of cells" that some of you folks feel comfortable dispatching right up to full term, can somehow survive outside the womb three months earlier?

Ann Coulter has a very interesting and different take ("The Bill for Globalism Has Arrived") yesterday, on where she sees Trump's fault lying in the aftermath of this pandemic, especially if he doesn't put an end to our globalist trade policy, and specifically in key areas of production like Pharma and medical supplies. I don't expect many of you will read it, but I think you'll be surprised ...

https://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2020-04-01.html

 

[Wayuphere]

Remind us again then, how many genders are there in your world? It's A-OK when the "girl" with the beard wins the State 100M sprint championship? And how your science <s>excuses</s> explains how the same "clump of cells" that some of you folks feel comfortable dispatching right up to full term, can somehow survive outside the womb three months earlier?

Ann Coulter has a very interesting and different take ("The Bill for Globalism Has Arrived") yesterday, on where she sees Trump's fault lying in the aftermath of this pandemic, especially if he doesn't put an end to our globalist trade policy, and specifically in key areas of production like Pharma and medical supplies. I don't expect many of you will read it, but I think you'll be surprised ...

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2020-04-01.html

Wow.

 

[Darius]

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He has been long before this. New Yorkers hate him more than they hate Trump.

People very close to me who live in NYC have said this for years. These are are bright, educated and frankly, privileged people who are fortunate to have daily access to expert information and a weekly briefing from a Harvard Epidemiologist. They were transitioning on the first weekend of March and in full stay at home mode by March 2. Apparently many in government either did not have access to this information, the cognitive ability to process it or the desire and motivation act on it.

The folks I know in NYC are the exception. Most do not have access to this type of information and many don't have the education to understand it. This is where government is supposed to come in, by providing clear direction. How is it that when Governors speak there is a sign language translator on stage, but not at the Federal level? Is there a Spanish version of coronavirus.gov? I should be able to find it instantly, but can't. Over and over again with our current Federal government, some of the state governments and a few local ones I find myself wondering if they are clueless, evil, selfish. Probably a combination of all three in varying degrees. Without Covid-19 this would have continued for a long time until eventually, years probably decades, in the future the number and degree of the disenfranchised becomes so great that there will be a political revolt and Bernie, AOC types will be elected to high offices. Covid-19 will likely accelerate this. Covid-19 does not care if you are rich, poor, white, non-white, male, female, young or old. Our cities are getting crushed and it is going to get worse and spread out of the cities. The US infection rate continues to rise, currently at 2.37%. The late to the game states like FL are going to get clobbered. I can currently book a BOS/LGA roundtrip flight and worse LGA to (random rural area) Jackson Hole. Un-be-f@#$ing-lievable.

 

[HockeyRef]

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Remind us again then, how many genders are there in your world? It's A-OK when the "girl" with the beard wins the State 100M sprint championship? And how your science <s>excuses</s> explains how the same "clump of cells" that some of you folks feel comfortable dispatching right up to full term, can somehow survive outside the womb three months earlier?

Ann Coulter has a very interesting and different take ("The Bill for Globalism Has Arrived") yesterday, on where she sees Trump's fault lying in the aftermath of this pandemic, especially if he doesn't put an end to our globalist trade policy, and specifically in key areas of production like Pharma and medical supplies. I don't expect many of you will read it, but I think you'll be surprised ...

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2020-04-01.html

Uh oh...we really have to go here??? Gender, abortion rights? How polarizing...sigh. I like Monty Python much better...

 

[walrus]

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. I can currently book a flight from BOS/LGA roundtrip flight and worse LGA to (random rural area) Jackson Hole. Un-be-f@#$ing-lievable.

I'll guarantee you will be able to practice social distancing as it will be you, the crew and maybe a couple of passengers.

 

[walrus]

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This Dr ain't coming back to Fox anytime soon
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/doctor-rishi-desai-fox-news-085227730.html

 

[Darius]

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Remind us again then, how many genders are there in your world? It's A-OK when the "girl" with the beard wins the State 100M sprint championship? And how your science <s>excuses</s> explains how the same "clump of cells" that some of you folks feel comfortable dispatching right up to full term, can somehow survive outside the womb three months earlier?

Ann Coulter has a very interesting and different take ("The Bill for Globalism Has Arrived") yesterday, on where she sees Trump's fault lying in the aftermath of this pandemic, especially if he doesn't put an end to our globalist trade policy, and specifically in key areas of production like Pharma and medical supplies. I don't expect many of you will read it, but I think you'll be surprised ...

https://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2020-04-01.html

P1: relevant how?

P2 - Link keeps timing out, but another title might be "The Bill for Providing an Illusion of Prosperity by Giving the Masses Access to Cheap Disposable Unnecessary Crap Has Arrived". The environmental bill is in the mail.

 

[acs64]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQ...RbJwemnpqh0WMpiGSU9mi07D7QFKjeU35r844JXKgIHvw

 

[Darius]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Remind us again then, how many genders are there in your world? It's A-OK when the "girl" with the beard wins the State 100M sprint championship? And how your science <s>excuses</s> explains how the same "clump of cells" that some of you folks feel comfortable dispatching right up to full term, can somehow survive outside the womb three months earlier?

Ann Coulter has a very interesting and different take ("The Bill for Globalism Has Arrived") yesterday, on where she sees Trump's fault lying in the aftermath of this pandemic, especially if he doesn't put an end to our globalist trade policy, and specifically in key areas of production like Pharma and medical supplies. I don't expect many of you will read it, but I think you'll be surprised ...

https://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2020-04-01.html

Ann Coulter Explains Why She’s A Deadhead—And Always Will Be:
https://www.inquisitr.com/3242436/ann-coulter-explains-why-shes-a-deadhead-and-always-will-be/

“I mostly followed them as a practicing lawyer from around 1991 to August 1995..."
Blech.

“Deadheads are such a draw that I didn’t even notice that the band wasn’t playing at the Jerry memorial in Golden Gate Park after Jerry [Garcia] died,”
Clueless DHINO.

 

[HockeyRef]

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This Dr ain't coming back to Fox anytime soon
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/doctor-rishi-desai-fox-news-085227730.html

Wow...that was something...lay it out, we can handle it. The TRUTH......FACT. Peoples LIVES depend on it...."we needed this months ago"....

 

[HockeyRef]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQ...RbJwemnpqh0WMpiGSU9mi07D7QFKjeU35r844JXKgIHvw

Thanks for sharing...that was fascinating. I always believed it came from Wuhan...and the part about the lab being next to that market....scary stuff...

 

[Darius]

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Wow...that was something...lay it out, we can handle it. The TRUTH......FACT. Peoples LIVES depend on it...."we needed this months ago"....

Wait for it.

 

[Chuck Murray]

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Doing my usual rounds during lunchtime, just looking to catch up on things ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQ...RbJwemnpqh0WMpiGSU9mi07D7QFKjeU35r844JXKgIHvw

Thanks for sharing. Some unique insight into the origins in Wuhan, plus stuff that easily gets overlooked over here. Almost makes me want to learn to read Chinese (almost).

P1: relevant how?

P2 - Link keeps timing out, but another title might be "The Bill for Providing an Illusion of Prosperity by Giving the Masses Access to Cheap Disposable Unnecessary Crap Has Arrived". The environmental bill is in the mail.

P1: Relevant only to the poster's point about "black being white", etc. on the other side of the aisle.

P2: Here's the final few paragraphs from Coulter's piece. FREE THINKING ALERT - it may surprise you:

Even a lot of the American companies we’re so proud of for stepping up to make masks in this crisis ... are making them in China. (New York Times, March 13, 2020: “A General Motors joint venture in southwestern China built 20 of its own mask-making machines and began bulk production.”)

Trump’s reaction? Flatter China so they’ll keep buying our soybeans. Maybe they’ll throw Jared some business!

Nearly a month ago, The New York Times reported that Trump was “preparing an executive order, which could be released in the coming days,” requiring the federal government to buy American-made pharmaceuticals.

It apparently went into the same file as that executive order on anchor babies. We’re still waiting.

(Peter) Navarro had the executive order ready to go, but then dozens of pharmaceutical companies lobbied against it, arguing that “a diverse pharmaceutical supply chain is precisely what enables the industry to respond quickly and make adjustments in its supply chain sourcing during natural emergencies and global public health crises.”

China: If we cut you off, America, you’ll be in hell.

The Big Pharma lobbyists also noted that Trump’s (idle) threat for America to make its own drugs “could run afoul of commitments it made under the WTO’s Government Procurement Agreement.”

NO! WE CAN’T VIOLATE THE WTO’S GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT AGREEMENT!

Trump is the president of the United States. Either he is responsible for a monstrous virus arriving on our shores and destroying our economy -- or China is. I expected the media to say, “Trump!” I didn’t expect Trump to agree.

My reaction is, while I agree stern action need to be taken against China, we're in a vulnerable position right now, precisely due to huge inconvenient chunks of our supply chain being in China's control. I assure you, though … in the aftermath of this incident, if action is not taken to better protect key supply chains from those who would do us harm, I will be 100% on board with Coulter.

Trump has railed against China since he was a candidate, and he's negotiated part of a deal already. These events are going to impact on how further negotiations play out. Some have called for a "reckoning". I don't know how that happens short of hot war in the South China Sea, or worse (nuclear). Trump has to keep talking with them, but the biggest leverage we have now is pulling back steadily on our reliance on China for pharma, med supplies, tech, and a host of other goods. That has to happen, but at an unmistakable pace which buys us time to build our alternate supply chains, while steadily decoupling from our dangerous current dependencies. I won't recite the past administrations who contributed to this, but this situation didn't happen overnight. If our actions make it clear we're following that path, China will have some tough choices to make.

Wow...that was something...lay it out, we can handle it. The TRUTH......FACT. Peoples LIVES depend on it...."we needed this months ago"....

Wait for it.

I see you guys have moved on from Drs. Fauci and Birx, and are now smitten with a new hot-take doc.

Enjoy!

 

[e.cat]

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Made in America has a new ring to it these days!

 

[Dutchman]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQ...RbJwemnpqh0WMpiGSU9mi07D7QFKjeU35r844JXKgIHvw

Great Video !!! We were told there was no human to human transmission.